This thread is a Safe space to hate the Warriors

SHO'NUFF · Post #61 » by **SHO'NUFF** » Fri May 13, 2016 11:14 am

Favorite player is Curry. Got nothing but love for that team.

bledredwine · Post #62 » by **bledredwine** » Fri May 13, 2016 12:26 pm

Anyone mocking OP for being "an old man" needs to wake up and actually YouTube a 90s playoff game (any). Not only is the crowd electric, but the games are straight up more enjoyable to watch. And there aren't wimpy ass fouls! You actually had high IQ stars like MJ, Pipp, Hakeem, Malone, Stockton, Miller, etc. Now you have Blake griffin cousins harden melo and players like Dwight? I'm sorry but hand checking needs a reincarnation. You just don't see players like Duncan anymore either- post game is dead, the only high iq franchise players are lebron Steph CP if you actually consider him a legit star. I'm sorry but 90s ball is straight up more fun to watch and the only sport that has actually gotten more exciting is hockey. THAT is a sport where more speed makes sense. I struggle to watch NBA games these days - not just the Bulls but any team. Defense is significantly less aggressive, it's either hit a 3 or get to the rim where maybe one guy will await. There's literally one contender in the east with 1 of the legit 2 reliable franchise players in the east on its squad. This year - warriors Spurs OKC in the west, Cleveland in the east. It's a bore. 90's? Bulls, Knicks, Pacers, heat, orlando all had star players tough d, you had Houston, San Antonio, Phoenix, Portland, Seattle, Utah killing it. Players spending little time in college and coming to the NBA unfinished products awaiting big paychecks? Come on now. It's pretty apparent that some fans are justified for hating where the league is at right now. I am one of them and last night's SAS OKC matchup is one of the first games I sincerely loved watching in maybe a year. The game has lost my interest without competitive dynamic talented players with offensive skill like 2011 rose. Aside from this, how many number 1 options in the league today do you consider better than Scottie Pippen or John Stockton, who were number 2 options in the 90s? How many number 1's would you consider better than MJ? Or even Hakeem, shaq, David rob, Charles, Patrick, Malone to lead your team in the playoffs? Hell, how many number two options today would you rather lead your team than Scottie Pippen? Payton? Penny? Stockton? ..... exactly. I mean really- do some of you sincerely believe that Joakim would have had a shot at finishing the season as a potential MVP candidate in the 90's? Anyway, rooting against the Warriors is rooting against a team that basically takes advantage of all of the poor rule changes to the fullest. How? Small ball, quick pace, spread the court w nonstop 3's (and yes Steph is crazy good at it). It's just not fun to watch.

nitetrain8603 · Post #63 » by **nitetrain8603** » Fri May 13, 2016 2:10 pm

Funkman7 wrote:I also forgot to mention the bandwagon angle. Not sure how many of you live in California, but three years ago Warriors fans were few and far between. And even then, they werent really super knowledgable fans. They were surprisingly meatheadish. Outside of Curry, Monta, and Klay the Warriors fans I met at the bars could barely name any relevant players past or present despite wearing "hardcore Warriors" gear. (The Bay Area has good sports fans, but they are more into football and baseball than basketball.).

Ugh and now you see the inordinate amount of new Warriors gear just makes me sick. I just HATE WHEN FANS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON and DONT suffer as fans before winning a chip!

I HATE THAT. Its like a coworker not being there there the whole project and coming in the day before its due and claiming an equal share of the work put in. Sorry m,effer! You didnt put in the work, you didnt shed tears, you didnt bleed blood, you dont understand what its like to put the work in and get the reward! The work is SUFFERING!! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY.

For Heat fans, for Warriors fans, for Blackhawk fans, it was way too easy. I will never respect those fanbases.

evvvvveeeryone!

Agreed. Suddenly everyone is a Warriors fan in SoCal. All these Lakers fans jumped bandwagons. You still have a few hardcore ones though.

Post #64 » by **alucryts** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:19 pm

RedBulls83 wrote:
alucryts wrote:I more meant even a solo home run counted for 4 runs; in other words its so valuable that you start ignoring other parts of the game to go for it.

And my comment was more aimed at the idea that EVERYONE shoots more threes. I feel like the aesthetic of 2 point shots is just much more pleasing personally. I remember the acrobatic layups, or the contested fadeaway, or the nice post moves before I remember even the best threes. Defending a three is pretty much out of your hands; it's too hard to cover that much ground...even a single screen allows enough air room for three point shots. I don't like how defense is basically useless against a three...there seems to be such a low skill floor needed to get open for a three point shot. It's like playing 1v1 at the park against someone who SPRINTS to the rebound, then SPRINTS to the three point line and shoots a 3 every time. Where is the fun in watching that? My defense is limited to being a spectator of rushed shots.

Steph and the warriors just happen to be the best at using this 3 point nirvana to their advantage; no knock on them.

But still, that would be damn impressive if a team had players that could willfully just hit home runs like that.

Also, you still see the acrobatic layups and stuff like that. Heck, Steph does a great job of finishing at the basket and has had some beautiful layups with great English off the glass.

My point isn't really specific to Curry, but I wish the three pointer wasn't so powerful as to start being a good idea to shoot in volume for people not a fraction as good as curry at shooting them.

But with respect to Curry, sometimes I find his layups to be his most exciting plays.

Flopper · Post #65 » by **Flopper** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:30 pm

One thing this Warriors run over the last two years has lacked is a playoff match-up against a healthy, formidable opponent. I think they need to beat healthy CLE/OKC squads convincingly (6 games or less, assuming we're comparing to Bulls 3-peat teams, 80's Celtics/Lakers, 2001 Lakers) to really cement their status as an all-time great team.

ATRAIN53 · Post #66 » by **ATRAIN53** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:42 pm

I enjoyed the Warriors circa 2007 with Baron Davis when they knocked off the Mavs in that 8 vs 1 matchup.
Up until last season that is the last time they were really relevant. It's really just a 2 year love fest.

Curry is great for the league, he's getting people to watch and he's not a thug. I'm OK with my kid being a Curry fan. He hardly gets to see him because of the late start times so a lot of his impression of Curry is highlight reels. NBA players are not role models, he knows this.

I'm also gaining a different perspective on Draymond Green watching him carry this team with Curry out. I can also see why they didn't want to trade Klay for Kevin Love either before last year. Not only is Klay a better shooter, he's a better defender than Love.

all said, I still want to see them lose the title to CLE. That would end any silly conversation on how this team is on par with those championship Bulls teams. They could not defend MJ, no one could. That 2004 Pistons team scared me more than these guys.

I'd be happy to watch the OKC knock them off too. I think they actually can if GSW is as broken down as I hope they are.
That is going to be a great series...

Post #67 » by **DuckIII** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:43 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:
Funkman7 wrote:I also forgot to mention the bandwagon angle. Not sure how many of you live in California, but three years ago Warriors fans were few and far between. And even then, they werent really super knowledgable fans. They were surprisingly meatheadish. Outside of Curry, Monta, and Klay the Warriors fans I met at the bars could barely name any relevant players past or present despite wearing "hardcore Warriors" gear. (The Bay Area has good sports fans, but they are more into football and baseball than basketball.).

Ugh and now you see the inordinate amount of new Warriors gear just makes me sick. I just HATE WHEN FANS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON and DONT suffer as fans before winning a chip!

I HATE THAT. Its like a coworker not being there there the whole project and coming in the day before its due and claiming an equal share of the work put in. Sorry m,effer! You didnt put in the work, you didnt shed tears, you didnt bleed blood, you dont understand what its like to put the work in and get the reward! The work is SUFFERING!! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY.

For Heat fans, for Warriors fans, for Blackhawk fans, it was way too easy. I will never respect those fanbases.

evvvvveeeryone!

Agreed. Suddenly everyone is a Warriors fan in SoCal. All these Lakers fans jumped bandwagons. You still have a few hardcore ones though.

Hold on now. Are you suggesting that Los Angeles sports fans are of the fair weather variety? I find that very hard to believe.

Mr Funk · Post #68 » by **Mr Funk** » Fri May 13, 2016 7:19 pm

dice wrote:that shot is confirmation of nothing. and it is not on the radar of greatest moments in bulls history

Cool story bro.

ChicagoMICda59 · Post #69 » by **ChicagoMICda59** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:09 pm

If I have to choose a winner between GS and the Cavs give me the Dubs all day. Don't specifically like GS, but definitely dislike the hell out of LeBron. And let's be real, the only team that ever had a chance of beating the Cavs was the Warriors, so you've like, got to support them.

AAU Teammate · Post #70 » by **AAU Teammate** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:15 pm

Hating Lebron is passe. I'll root for CLE over GSW. Would be great for the city, and they have suffered enough

ChicagoMICda59 · Post #71 » by **ChicagoMICda59** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:24 pm

AAU Teammate wrote:Hating Lebron is passe. I'll root for CLE over GSW. Would be great for the city, and they have suffered enough

Where's the puking emoticon?

DarthDiggler69 · Post #72 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:57 pm

As long as Lebron's superteam loses I dont care who wins

samwana · Post #73 » by **samwana** » Fri May 13, 2016 9:43 pm

If the Warriors don't win the chip it will be because they invested too much in breaking the record.

Can't root for LeBron though so I hope okc has enough to rip past both of them. It will stop all the talk and it could convince KD to stay in okc and don't leave for greener pastries.

Am2626 · Post #74 » by **Am2626** » Sat May 14, 2016 3:24 am

samwana wrote:If the Warriors don't win the chip it will be because they invested too much in breaking the record.

Can't root for LeBron though so I hope okc has enough to rip past both of them. It will stop all the talk and it could convince KD to stay in okc and don't leave for greener pastries.

Unless those greener pastures are the Bulls.

ThreeMileAllan · Post #75 » by **ThreeMileAllan** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:01 am

I am going to make this the 74th reply to this thread. This thread cant sit on 73. I cant even look at the number 73 anymore. **** the warriors

evvvvveeeryone!

Jeffster81 · Post #76 » by **Jeffster81** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:05 am

Thunder with the better high end talent but the Warriors with the better roster. So unless Russ and I'd want to do their best mj/pippen impersonation the time is now. If okc doesn't win, then there is nobody in the east that can beat gsw.

Keller61 · Post #77 » by **Keller61** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:08 am

Funkman7 wrote:I also forgot to mention the bandwagon angle. Not sure how many of you live in California, but three years ago Warriors fans were few and far between. And even then, they werent really super knowledgable fans. They were surprisingly meatheadish. Outside of Curry, Monta, and Klay the Warriors fans I met at the bars could barely name any relevant players past or present despite wearing "hardcore Warriors" gear. (The Bay Area has good sports fans, but they are more into football and baseball than basketball.).

Ugh and now you see the inordinate amount of new Warriors gear just makes me sick. I just HATE WHEN FANS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON and DONT suffer as fans before winning a chip!

I HATE THAT. Its like a coworker not being there there the whole project and coming in the day before its due and claiming an equal share of the work put in. Sorry m,effer! You didnt put in the work, you didnt shed tears, you didnt bleed blood, you dont understand what its like to put the work in and get the reward! The work is SUFFERING!! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY.

For Heat fans, for Warriors fans, for Blackhawk fans, it was way too easy. I will never respect those fanbases.

evvvvveeeryone!

I'm sorry, but this is stupid. Sports is for fun. It's not religion. It's perfectly natural that more people become interested when their local team is doing well.

I would guess that just about every fan starts out as a 'bandwagoner' to some extent. If you haven't been raised to follow a team, something has to happen to perk your interest. I know I didn't care about the Bulls before 2011.

Axl Rose · Post #78 » by **Axl Rose** » Sat May 14, 2016 5:13 am

i think its unfair to blame Warriors/Curry. the game being more perimeter oriented has been the direction they NBA has been headed in for years. Warriors were just the first to break the mold and become truly dominant with this style of ball.

the game really started to deteriorate back when and1 was all the rage. players were more focused making the highlight reels than just playing sound basketball...then you got AAU basketball all these kids go to that promotes that style

even if we were to blame a single player, then i think that player would be our very own Michael Jordan. he brought style & flash, became global icon and the idol of many which served as the catalyst for players to want to be the same way

alteast now it has evolved to the point where its becoming a team game again instead of isolation-based although im not sure if the game will ever get back to being fundamentally sound like you are hoping for

nitetrain8603 · Post #79 » by **nitetrain8603** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:30 pm

DuckIII wrote:
nitetrain8603 wrote:
Funkman7 wrote:I also forgot to mention the bandwagon angle. Not sure how many of you live in California, but three years ago Warriors fans were few and far between. And even then, they werent really super knowledgable fans. They were surprisingly meatheadish. Outside of Curry, Monta, and Klay the Warriors fans I met at the bars could barely name any relevant players past or present despite wearing "hardcore Warriors" gear. (The Bay Area has good sports fans, but they are more into football and baseball than basketball.).

Ugh and now you see the inordinate amount of new Warriors gear just makes me sick. I just HATE WHEN FANS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON and DONT suffer as fans before winning a chip!

I HATE THAT. Its like a coworker not being there there the whole project and coming in the day before its due and claiming an equal share of the work put in. Sorry m,effer! You didnt put in the work, you didnt shed tears, you didnt bleed blood, you dont understand what its like to put the work in and get the reward! The work is SUFFERING!! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY.

For Heat fans, for Warriors fans, for Blackhawk fans, it was way too easy. I will never respect those fanbases.

evvvvveeeryone!

Agreed. Suddenly everyone is a Warriors fan in SoCal. All these Lakers fans jumped bandwagons. You still have a few hardcore ones though.

Hold on now. Are you suggesting that Los Angeles sports fans are of the fair weather variety? I find that very hard to believe.

Unfortunately so. And it's something they all justify which is just weird to me.

MrSparkle · Post #80 » by **MrSparkle** » Sat May 14, 2016 4:46 pm

Flopper wrote:One thing this Warriors run over the last two years has lacked is a playoff match-up against a healthy, formidable opponent. I think they need to beat healthy CLE/OKC squads convincingly (6 games or less, assuming we're comparing to Bulls 3-peat teams, 80's Celtics/Lakers, 2001 Lakers) to really cement their status as an all-time great team.

I agree that they've had some lighter playoff opponents (though the Grizzlies, last year Rockets, Lebron Cavs even without Kyrie/Love.. These weren't walks in the park)... but for the great teams, it's been pretty common for them to have easier schedules. It's the benefit of being the #1 seed; you get to play the worst seed in each round, with home-court advantage to boot. And as such, you also get to rest more (which results in less injuries).

It's not GSW's fault that SAS got eliminated in the 1st round. Or that LAC fell short of expectations.

And GSW was whipping the Spurs and Cavs in most their meetings this season too. After a while, it begins to get tiring hearing that certain teams are "hiding their hand for the playoffs."

The way Cleveland is playing right now, they could beat a healthy GSW team. But that's not to take away from the Warriors. IMO both of these teams have the star talent and depth to compete with any of the greatest teams of all time (including the 96 Bulls).

I'll side with Jordan if I had to bet, because of his personality, intangibles and the unique threat the triangle/Pippen created.

But GSW deserves all the respect they've gotten. By every metric besides intuition, they were better than the 2nd best seed in the NBA (Spurs) by a wide margin. The league might be in a bad/transition period right now, but the Warriors (and Cavs, and Spurs) are/were legit. OKC clicked at the right time. Should be a good final 3 (I'm excluding the Raptors/Heat - I predict a 4 game sweep).