Fischella's 2016 Mock Draft

No-Man · Post #61 » by **No-Man** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:01 am

New Mock pre-March Madness, I have used a bit more team needs and what I believe GMs will do mixed with my rankings,

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/163628/

Top undrafted 100% eligible players are in no order,

Josh Adams
Yogi Ferrell
Tyrone Wallace
Fred VanVleet
Marcus Paige
Damion Lee
Ron Baker
Isaiah Cousins
Bryn Forbes
David Walker
Jake Layman
Danuel House
Jalen Jones
Perry Ellis
Alex Poythress
Marcus Lee
Shawn Long
Daniel Ochefu
Jameel Warney
Joel Bolomboy

cedric76 · Post #62 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:17 am

Fischella wrote:New Mock pre-March Madness, I have used a bit more team needs and what I believe GMs will do mixed with my rankings,

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/163628/

Top undrafted 100% eligible players are in no order,

Josh Adams
Yogi Ferrell
Tyrone Wallace
Fred VanVleet
Marcus Paige
Damion Lee
Ron Baker
Isaiah Cousins
Bryn Forbes
David Walker
Jake Layman
Danuel House
Jalen Jones
Perry Ellis
Alex Poythress
Marcus Lee
Shawn Long
Daniel Ochefu
Jameel Warney
Joel Bolomboy

Hi Fisch where is deyonta Davis??

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No-Man · Post #63 » by **No-Man** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:25 pm

cedric76 wrote:
Fischella wrote:New Mock pre-March Madness, I have used a bit more team needs and what I believe GMs will do mixed with my rankings,

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/163628/

Top undrafted 100% eligible players are in no order,

Josh Adams
Yogi Ferrell
Tyrone Wallace
Fred VanVleet
Marcus Paige
Damion Lee
Ron Baker
Isaiah Cousins
Bryn Forbes
David Walker
Jake Layman
Danuel House
Jalen Jones
Perry Ellis
Alex Poythress
Marcus Lee
Shawn Long
Daniel Ochefu
Jameel Warney
Joel Bolomboy

Hi Fisch where is deyonta Davis??

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Coming back to school

cedric76 · Post #64 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:41 pm

Fischella wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Fischella wrote:New Mock pre-March Madness, I have used a bit more team needs and what I believe GMs will do mixed with my rankings,

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/163628/

Top undrafted 100% eligible players are in no order,

Josh Adams
Yogi Ferrell
Tyrone Wallace
Fred VanVleet
Marcus Paige
Damion Lee
Ron Baker
Isaiah Cousins
Bryn Forbes
David Walker
Jake Layman
Danuel House
Jalen Jones
Perry Ellis
Alex Poythress
Marcus Lee
Shawn Long
Daniel Ochefu
Jameel Warney
Joel Bolomboy

Hi Fisch where is deyonta Davis??

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Coming back to school

U sure?

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skywalker33 · Post #65 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:08 am

cedric76 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Hi Fisch where is deyonta Davis??

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Coming back to school

U sure?

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50-50 with the way they went out

Patsfan1081 · Post #66 » by **Patsfan1081** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:41 pm

Better than most you see on some of these draft sites. Would love Boston to get Zubac, Elleson, and Zitic all in one draft. I'm guessing you don't think Qi and Jeanne will declare until next year?

cedric76 · Post #67 » by **cedric76** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:43 pm

Gonna have to add chriss now

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Chi town · Post #68 » by **Chi town** » Sat May 7, 2016 2:51 pm

Fischella wrote:My try at a full Mock at this point,

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/156996/

You've been spot on about Ulis for a long time. High 5. Love him at 14 to the Bulls as a super 6th man/backup. You think he could start in the future,

You are super high on Baldwin. I see all the measurable so but none of the intangibles. What are you seeing? Comp?

No-Man · Post #69 » by **No-Man** » Thu May 19, 2016 6:45 pm

After a few months of reading, checking more tape and finally with a proper order and closer to a definitive list, I have a new Mock, this will still change until the 22nd of June, especially since we dont have the official list just yet.

I have made my guesses with a few guys, mainly kicking them back to school, I struggled especially with Josh Hart, Troy Williams, Malik Newman and Isaia Cordinier, among internationals.

There's also some guys that could've found their way in, but didnt, my last cuts were, Sheldon McClellan, Prince Ibeh, Jarrod Uthoff, Isaiah Cousins, Anthony Barber, Daniel Hamilton and Rasheed Sulaimon among others.

Like almost always, my Mocks reflect what I'd do if I were the GM of every team, I dont care about predictions, like at all, my board has changed some, but also in the last Mock in this page I did a mix of my board and try to predict a bit, so the result now is different.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/196203/

cedric76 · Post #70 » by **cedric76** » Fri May 20, 2016 12:30 am

Skal 39?

Cammo101 · Post #71 » by **Cammo101** » Fri May 20, 2016 1:15 am

I can't even wrap my brain around Buddy Hield being 14 spots lower than Patrick McCaw. Does not compute.

skywalker33 · Post #72 » by **skywalker33** » Fri May 20, 2016 2:17 am

So the Nuggets are taking THREE SG's....yeah, a lot of research...... :roll:

nomansland · Post #73 » by **nomansland** » Fri May 20, 2016 4:04 am

At least you went through the effort but there's a lot wrong with that draft. For starters there's no way the Nuggets would take Korkmaz if Brown is still available. And if Hield falls that far down I will eat a Nuggets jersey.

BadWolf · Post #74 » by **BadWolf** » Fri May 20, 2016 12:20 pm

very unconventional.
You sure love international guys

No-Man · Post #75 » by **No-Man** » Sat May 28, 2016 11:19 am

Quick update after we got the Official Early Entry List (minus internationals prospects, I am assuming that Cordinier, Papagiannis, Yusta, Slavica, Atic, Bakumanya, Birsen, Bouteille, Diop, Fall, Flaccadori, Guven, Håkansson, Jaramaz, Kaba, Loubaki, Mesicek, Sipahi, Ugurlu and Vezenkov withdraw from this Draft).

I added a 3rd round, just out of curiosity

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/202092/
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/202102/

Like always not trying to hit with any pick, just adapting my board to the teams picking, sort of.

guille_4 · Post #76 » by **guille_4** » Sat May 28, 2016 8:58 pm

Jamal Murray 17th? That's by far the lowest position I've seen him in.

skywalker33 · Post #77 » by **skywalker33** » Sun May 29, 2016 12:07 am

Bet you don't get more than three right, very farcical IMO

No-Man · Post #78 » by **No-Man** » Sun May 29, 2016 9:13 am

Tier 1 NBA All Stars, potentially franchise changers

Ben Simmons/Brandon Ingram
Dragan Bender

Tier 2 possibly All Stars, starters

Kris Dunn
Wade Baldwin IV
Timothé Luwawu
Marquese Chriss
Jaylen Brown
Furkan Korkmaz
Ivica Zubac

Tier 3 NBA solid contributors, could be as starters or as bench players

Denzel Valentine
Patrick McCaw
Henry Ellenson
Juancho Hernangómez
DeAndre Bembry
Domantas Sabonis
Robert Carter Jr.
Stephen Zimmerman
Deyonta Davis
Jakob Poeltl
Chinanu Onuaku
Malik Beasley
Gary Payton II
AJ Hammons
Taurean Prince
Jamal Murray
Ante Zizic
Brice Johnson
Pascal Siakam
Dorian Finney-Smith

Tier 4 possibly top-notch bench players to rotation guys

Ron Baker
Tyler Ulis
Malcolm Brogdon
Buddy Hield
Rade Zagorac
Guerschon Yabusele
Joel Bolomboy
Caris LeVert
Petr Cornelie
Demetrius Jackson
Fred VanVleet
Kay Felder
Troy Williams
Damian Jones
Ben Bentil
Zhou Qi
Derrick Jones Jr.
Jake Layman
Malachi Richardson
Dejounte Murray
Skal Labissiere
Thon Maker
Cheick Diallo
Paul Zipser
Michael Gbinije
Josh Adams
Marko Guduric
James Webb III
Marko Arapovic
Prince Ibeh
Mathias Lessort
Julian Jacobs
Daniel Hamilton
Diamond Stone
Anthony Barber
Isaiah Whitehead
Sheldon McClellan
Rasheed Sulaimon
Jarrod Uthoff
Isaiah Cousins

Tier 5 mix of players with marginal NBA skills/low chance of hitting their ceiling

Danuel House
Jalen Jones
Brannen Greene
Wayne Selden
John Brown
Thomas Walkup
Terry Tarpey
Georges Niang
Dyshawn Pierre
Moussa Diagné
Devin Williams
Yogi Ferrell
Isaiah Taylor
Tim Quarterman
Danilo Fuzaro
David Walker
Jordan Fouse
Shaquille Harrison
Jameel Warney
Shawn Long
Nikola Ivanovic
Marcus Paige
Nic Moore
Markus Kennedy
Rosco Allen
Alex Caruso
Tyrone Wallace
Alex Poythress
Jonathan Holton
Winston Shepard
Armani Moore
Isaiah Miles
Shaq Goodwin
Daniel Ochefu
Egidijus Mockevicius
Elgin Cook
Andrey Desyatnikov
Kyle Collinsworth
Roosevelt Jones
Maodo Lo
Anthony Gill
Kaleb Tarczewski
Bryn Forbes
Marvelle Harris
Stefan Moody
Andrew Andrews
Damion Lee
A.J. English
Perry Ellis
Kyle Wiltjer
Marshall Plumlee
Tony Parker
Zach Auguste
Mike Tobey
Ryan Anderson

Spens1 · Post #79 » by **Spens1** » Sun May 29, 2016 10:42 am

I like Korkmaz but the problem is, he's still really raw and didn't even start in europe. Not even big minutes in Europe either. He has potential but he is a bit off.

Not even sold on Zubac to be honest, i mean he's ok i guess but near all-star, can't even see him being a starter in the league.

Hield as a non-starter even though he may be the third best player in the draft is a bit strange, same with Murray being tier 3. Same with Skal in tier 4 (if either him or Buddy somehow go into free fall, their are several GM's that should be fired for not selecting them)

EMG518 · Post #80 » by **EMG518** » Sun May 29, 2016 1:48 pm

skywalker33 wrote:Bet you don't get more than three right, very farcical IMO

I believe he has said before that his mocks are what he would do as the gm and not what he thinks the actual team would do.