Trading Lowry while his Value is at it's highest

[bonjovi0308]

Surprised at how many people are being so short sighted and still drowning in the franchise’s recent glory. He is getting old by nba standard and he probably has 1~2 glory years left in his entire career.

He is going to demand for max and whichever franchise extend him after next season will regret soon.

While he is the heart and soul of the raptors, he is no vince, kobe, or lebron calibre type of player. If we hope the franchise to remain competitive for many years, sometimes u have to bite the bullet and to take one step backward in order to take two forward.

I think if Masai is not foolish enough, it looks like the most likely scenario will be letting Lowry to walk away as ufa after next season.

[The_Hater]

While Lowry isn't a top 5-6 player, you're not going to be able to trade him for one of those guys either so I'm not sure how that's a relative point for moving him. He's a little older than the rest of the core but he's certainly not in decline coming off the best season of this career.

There simply isn't enough talent on this roster to trade the best player and expect to be better than they were this season somewhere down the road. NBA success, especially playoff success, is dictated by your team's best player. We were a lottery team not so long ago and Lowry's rise from fringe starter to All-NBA player is the main reason for that. Don't be fooled into thinking this roster couldn't drop right back back into the lottery without him.

[bonjovi0308]

A poster named TheRedRocket claimed he knows a reliable source from the organization saying that Lowrys elbow is severely damaged and even a surgey will just help him ease some pain but not total healing. The side effects will be with him the rest of his life and he will need to adjust his playing style and shooting stroke

[mattkobe1984]

He is the heart and soul. You can't trade Lowry man he gave his all on and off the court for the raptors


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[Johnny Bball]

A poster named TheRedRocket claimed he knows a reliable source from the organization saying that Lowrys elbow is severely damaged and even a surgey will just help him ease some pain but not total healing. The side effects will be with him the rest of his life and he will need to adjust his playing style and shooting stroke

Lmao. Yes he has a totally different alien elbow that doesn't follow human standards. His elbow is actually from walmart and can't be repaired because the warrantee is up. And his elbow was in so much pain he managed to play better at home because the weather is better and it eased his pain. Where do people come up with this rubbish?

Honestly man... Wtf.

[22haytham22]

Yea trade away a PG allstar with a cap hit of 13 million when players like Ross are getting 11. Perfect!

[tsherkin]

Lowry is basically in prime Billups phase as far as his career arc. He's got a powerful lower body, a decent handle, he's a good shooter and he's adept at using screens. He's got probably 3 or 4 strong years for us, particularly since we aren't asking him to play 40 mpg or to score 30 ppg. Remember, he's a PnR player with range, and we've seen those guys last for AGES with far less athletic ability than Lowry has or regularly uses. He isn't dusting guys on the basis of raw acceleration play after play to get his work done and he isn't jumping over people, so his age is of less concern than it might be if he were a different kind of player, IMO.

Trading him now would be ridiculous. Without him, we fall apart entirely and then we're basically just conceding defeat to Tank Nation, if you want to borrow an older board meme. We want to build on this and make it last as long as we can, because once Lowry does actually decline, we're back into the lottery immediately unless we effectively turn Jonas into our primary player or this 9th pick goes supernova on us. Trading him now would accelerate that process for no foreseeable immediate gain, because like The_Hater said, we're not going to trade him for someone in the tier above him, that's just not going to happen.

[OAKLEY_2]

Lowry is basically in prime Billups phase as far as his career arc. He's got a powerful lower body, a decent handle, he's a good shooter and he's adept at using screens. He's got probably 3 or 4 strong years for us, particularly since we aren't asking him to play 40 mpg or to score 30 ppg. Remember, he's a PnR player with range, and we've seen those guys last for AGES with far less athletic ability than Lowry has or regularly uses. He isn't dusting guys on the basis of raw acceleration play after play to get his work done and he isn't jumping over people, so his age is of less concern than it might be if he were a different kind of player, IMO.

Trading him now would be ridiculous. Without him, we fall apart entirely and then we're basically just conceding defeat to Tank Nation, if you want to borrow an older board meme. We want to build on this and make it last as long as we can, because once Lowry does actually decline, we're back into the lottery immediately unless we effectively turn Jonas into our primary player or this 9th pick goes supernova on us. Trading him now would accelerate that process for no foreseeable immediate gain, because like The_Hater said, we're not going to trade him for someone in the tier above him, that's just not going to happen.

He is the guy that puts us in the conversation.

[Jordans_Rose]

You shouldn't trade Lowry simply because his value is at it's highest. He's the main reason why the Raptors had the season they had. I think Kyle should essentially retire as a Raptor imo. I look at the Spurs and Tony Parker is clearly getting older and if the Spurs sign Mike Conley this off-season the spurs would have Parker come off the bench which is a plus (makes their bench stronger). Whether Corey Joseph is that guy going forward once Lowry ages then who knows or maybe the Raptors draft a hidden gem PG or sign a great PG in the future.

But I want to see Kyle and DeMar here, they proved their worth and I can't knock on them for losing to Cleveland like that. I think the guys who are not back in Toronto for the 2016-17 season are Bismack Biyombo, Luis Scola, James Johnson. I think it's fine if Biyombo leaves, what I am hoping for is Jonas goes to that next level and gives 20 & 10 and is healthy through the season and next post season. I think this off-season the raptors should go after Dwight Powell or David Lee, Matt Barnes & Courtney Lee.

[tsherkin]

He is the guy that puts us in the conversation.

Yes, he's the reason this team is where it is. There are other elements without a doubt, but he's our core star at the moment.

[Badonkadonk]

Surprised at how many people are being so short sighted and still drowning in the franchise’s recent glory. He is getting old by nba standard and he probably has 1~2 glory years left in his entire career.

He is going to demand for max and whichever franchise extend him after next season will regret soon.

While he is the heart and soul of the raptors, he is no vince, kobe, or lebron calibre type of player. If we hope the franchise to remain competitive for many years, sometimes u have to bite the bullet and to take one step backward in order to take two forward.

I think if Masai is not foolish enough, it looks like the most likely scenario will be letting Lowry to walk away as ufa after next season.

And I'm still surprised how many people think you can run a real team like a video game franchise.

You don't rip out your 'heart and soul' while he's still productive and your best player. The Spurs didn't dump Duncan, Parker OR Ginobili when they hit their early 30s. They found ways to add to their collective, not take steps backwards etc.

Success is not just about collecting assets that you hope gel together and peak at roughly the same time. It's about building a team.

[rapsrealm]

The Raptors popularity and interest is at an all time high; MLSE should look to sell high as well.

[deeps6x]

Yikes. Lowry the only reason we made it this far

You forgot to underline ONLY.

DD is nothing without Kyle. Kyle is still great without DD.



If DeMar opts out and chases Max money in LA, Kyle's value in a trade then peaks. Nobody would pay more for Kyle than LA would at that point. They would LOVE to have the best back court in the East jump to their team. They would be an instant contender. However, they'd have to give up their top pick in this draft. Is Ingram or Simmons worth a year of Lowry? Probably. There is no doubt that Kyle would then also extend with them for 3 more years for max money. Kyle would get his $85M over 4 years and would be happy as hell in Sunny California playing with his best friend.

The Raptors would then have their young potential superstar to go along with their new core, as well as the #9 and #27 picks. Hell, maybe we could even combine a bunch of picks to move up for Murray as well. Lose DD and KL, add Simmons (or Ingram) and Murray. That is a team I'd be cheering on with glee for the next 4 years, and the extra $50M we'd no longer be spending on our back court all-stars would open up a bunch of possibilities as well. THIS is my ideal summer for Masai.

We would also be timing our peak to be in the post LeBron era better. Two years from now, we'd own the East.

[DaddyCool19]

Would you guys really want to pay Lowry a starting salary around 30M year in 2017? That would be his max contract I think.

[Blood Orange]

Why would you trade the Raptors greatest player of all time? He's already eclipsed most of our former players in terms of top performances and production. Him and Derozan made history this year and took us to the ECF, which was no fluke. Then we stole two games from Cleveland, which we weren't even suppose to and he played a major part in those victories.

He can single handily win us far more games than any other player on our team during the regular season and gives us an edge over other teams in the playoffs. Without Lowry, we go back to being a mediocre team that goes 40-40 and barely make the playoffs. And I doubt we get even out of the first round without Lowry.

He's definitely not the most talented player we've ever had but he's been by far the most efficient/productive Raptor we've got and you just don't deal that. Although, Lowry wasn't drafted by the raps, I'd like him to retire as one.

[DUNPHY]

Terrible idea.

Lowrys a top 10 player when his elbows healthy. Probably the cheapest top 10 player there is contract wise! If anything just let him expire and get him on a better deal if he declines.

Who could we trade for that would be equal to Lowrys talent at 12-15 million?

[mieshpal]

How about u keep lowry and keep accumulating assets so you have options for trades....lets just trade our best player and start over smh[PILE OF POO][PILE OF POO]

[EH15]

So do we sign him to a 5 years $150M+ contract next summer?

[Wraps_fan]

Backseat moderating / Derailing

[LLJ]

Well it depends who we're getting back. I mean are we getting someone as good or better back? If we want to make a trade for the sake of a trade, I'm willing to have Chris Paul as a return.