The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2)

deezerweeze · Post #461 » by **deezerweeze** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:35 am

therealbig3 wrote:It's funny how the same people show up every time Curry has a bad game, but then they're silent whenever he dominates.

nope. i love curry. think hes easily the best player in the game. doesn't change the fact that his supporting cast is just ridiculously awesome. it doesn't have to be one or the other you know.

therealbig3 · Post #462 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:36 am

bigboi wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:It's funny how the same people show up every time Curry has a bad game, but then they're silent whenever he dominates.

He hasn't dominated many games, but I guess. people tried saying his team isn't stacked as well, no matter how you slice it. You can't compare Curry to a player like Jordan

LOL, he hasn't dominated many games because he got hurt and missed a bunch of games. When he destroyed OKC in the last 3 games of that series, I didn't see ANY of you guys here saying anything. It's just when he shoots poorly, all of a sudden, people start saying "and this is why he isn't Jordan or LeBron"...ignoring the fact that Jordan and LeBron had crappy games in the playoffs themselves.

therealbig3 · Post #463 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:37 am

Yeah, he's got a great supporting cast. How does that prove he can't be compared to LeBron or Jordan? Because they didn't have great supporting casts that were able to pick up the slack when they played poorly? Because that's the opposite of true.

ppedro123 · Post #464 » by **ppedro123** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:38 am

therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, he's got a great supporting cast. How does that prove he can't be compared to LeBron or Jordan? Because they didn't have great supporting casts that were able to pick up the slack when they played poorly? Because that's the opposite of true.

because he can not impose his will like Peak Jordan and LeBron could

therealbig3 · Post #465 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:39 am

ppedro123 wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, he's got a great supporting cast. How does that prove he can't be compared to LeBron or Jordan? Because they didn't have great supporting casts that were able to pick up the slack when they played poorly? Because that's the opposite of true.

because he can not impose his will like Peak Jordan and LeBron could

How cliche.

ppedro123 · Post #466 » by **ppedro123** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:39 am

therealbig3 wrote:
bigboi wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:It's funny how the same people show up every time Curry has a bad game, but then they're silent whenever he dominates.

He hasn't dominated many games, but I guess. people tried saying his team isn't stacked as well, no matter how you slice it. You can't compare Curry to a player like Jordan

LOL, he hasn't dominated many games because he got hurt and missed a bunch of games. When he destroyed OKC in the last 3 games of that series, I didn't see ANY of you guys here saying anything. It's just when he shoots poorly, all of a sudden, people start saying "and this is why he isn't Jordan or LeBron"...ignoring the fact that Jordan and LeBron had crappy games in the playoffs themselves.

i think steph will end up going crazy and winning finals mvp

doesn't mean hes close to the player Jordan was

and i dont even like Jordan

cpower · Post #467 » by **cpower** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:39 am

Looks like the cavs' game plan is to hold him as much as they can so that he cant fight through the screens. The bench shot well, otherwise i believe Curry would have to go iso ball on his long pull ups again. Maybe the cavs defense just wasn't good enough to contain us from scoring and team ball finally worked lol

therealbig3 · Post #468 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:43 am

Nobody can see the season that Curry had and say ANYBODY was much better than he was. Even in the playoffs, when he's played, he's generally been great. A few bad games, and people go nuts. And then ignore the great games he had.

cpower · Post #469 » by **cpower** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:43 am

RSCD3_ wrote:With the way the cavs are defending curry, it's likely he'll miss out on another nba finals MVP, probably to iguodala If I had to bet. Cavs arent letting him get anything

i dont think he cares. if he can hold two defenders still, we have a great shot of finishing them in 5. Curry will have to go iso ball to get his points, and it's not what the warriors are doing anyway. I think he will avg like 20/7/8 on great %TS in this series.

ppedro123 · Post #470 » by **ppedro123** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:47 am

therealbig3 wrote:Nobody can see the season that Curry had and say ANYBODY was much better than he was. Even in the playoffs, when he's played, he's generally been great. A few bad games, and people go nuts. And then ignore the great games he had.

its not aboud having a good game or a bad game man

im pretty sure steph will drop 30 plus in the next game

you're missing the point

anyways forget it

but man, this golden state team is fun to watch!

bigboi · Post #471 » by **bigboi** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:50 am

therealbig3 wrote:
bigboi wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:It's funny how the same people show up every time Curry has a bad game, but then they're silent whenever he dominates.

He hasn't dominated many games, but I guess. people tried saying his team isn't stacked as well, no matter how you slice it. You can't compare Curry to a player like Jordan

LOL, he hasn't dominated many games because he got hurt and missed a bunch of games. When he destroyed OKC in the last 3 games of that series, I didn't see ANY of you guys here saying anything. It's just when he shoots poorly, all of a sudden, people start saying "and this is why he isn't Jordan or LeBron"...ignoring the fact that Jordan and LeBron had crappy games in the playoffs themselves.

Curry played well, but dominated game 6? He still shot poorly, only reason they didn't go home is because of Thompson and Westbrook/Durant absolutely losing the marbles in the final minutes. Lebron and Jordan, there are other players that I can mention as well in their peak years are much better playoff performers, just face it. Whether you want to admit or not is up to you. Curry's great, but all this talk about being the greatest player ever or having the GOAT season is ridiculous especially when you consider that he isn't even a good defender on top of playing below standard in the playoffs

mikejames23 · Post #472 » by **mikejames23** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:54 am

Any chance Iggy steals a 2nd Finals MVP from Curry?

Nah, can't happen. Pipe dream. His work on some of the best offensive players on the league, though... hats off.

2klegend · Post #473 » by **2klegend** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:55 am

therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, he's got a great supporting cast. How does that prove he can't be compared to LeBron or Jordan? Because they didn't have great supporting casts that were able to pick up the slack when they played poorly? Because that's the opposite of true.

It proves that his supporting cast carry him to title while Jordan/Lebron carry his team to the title. That's the major difference between them. It is also worth noting that Curry has the luxury which Jordan/Lebron never had. They have to do it all and unstoppable regardless of who guard them. Curry is of course having a great season but we need to take the context to evaluate whether he deserves to be in GOAT contention. The answer is he is not and I'm sorry.

DreDay · Post #474 » by **DreDay** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:56 am

2klegend wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, he's got a great supporting cast. How does that prove he can't be compared to LeBron or Jordan? Because they didn't have great supporting casts that were able to pick up the slack when they played poorly? Because that's the opposite of true.

It proves that his supporting cast carry him to title while Jordan/Lebron carry his team to the title. That's the major difference between them. It is also worth noting that Curry has the luxury which Jordan/Lebron never had. They have to do it all and unstoppable regardless of who guard them. Curry is of course having a great season but we need to take the context to evaluate whether he deserves to be in GOAT contention. The answer he is not and I'm sorry.

Holy overreaction :lol:

One game. Repeat that over and over again. It does not define his year.

2klegend · Post #475 » by **2klegend** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:57 am

DreDay wrote:
2klegend wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, he's got a great supporting cast. How does that prove he can't be compared to LeBron or Jordan? Because they didn't have great supporting casts that were able to pick up the slack when they played poorly? Because that's the opposite of true.

It proves that his supporting cast carry him to title while Jordan/Lebron carry his team to the title. That's the major difference between them. It is also worth noting that Curry has the luxury which Jordan/Lebron never had. They have to do it all and unstoppable regardless of who guard them. Curry is of course having a great season but we need to take the context to evaluate whether he deserves to be in GOAT contention. The answer he is not and I'm sorry.

Holy overreaction

One game. Repeat that over and over again. It does not define his year.

To be fair, this playoff Curry having a few great game but his impact on his team winning is marginal at best. It is really about his cast playing to their talent. When they do, Curry performance is irrelevant.

GSP · Post #476 » by **GSP** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:00 am

Its time to stop blaming his offensive playoff woes on injuries. Its like ive always said on here he simply is not a dynamic enough ball handler, playmaker and decision maker off the pickandroll. His ability to let his team play 4 on 3 alot is valuable but traditional aspects that historically dominant Pgs brought on offense isnt there with Steph and that seems to hurt his game in the playoffs def his consistency

Struggles against 13 Spurs, 14 Clips, hurt 15 Grizz/Cavs team, 16 Okc. Hes clearly one of the alltime great offensive forces but simply isnt the offensive Goat ppl were hoping for. Hes already had more shaky and inconsistent offensive series than Mj had in his career. Also this is the 2nd game Kyrie has outplayed him in

DreDay · Post #477 » by **DreDay** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:00 am

2klegend wrote:
DreDay wrote:
2klegend wrote:It proves that his supporting cast carry him to title while Jordan/Lebron carry his team to the title. That's the major difference between them. It is also worth noting that Curry has the luxury which Jordan/Lebron never had. They have to do it all and unstoppable regardless of who guard them. Curry is of course having a great season but we need to take the context to evaluate whether he deserves to be in GOAT contention. The answer he is not and I'm sorry.

Holy overreaction

One game. Repeat that over and over again. It does not define his year.

To be fair, this playoff Curry having a few great game but his impact on his team winning is marginal at best. It is really about his cast playing to their talent. When they do, Curry performance is irrelevant.

Curry missed the majority of the 1st two rounds, and wasn't the best against OKC from game 1 to 4. But you forget that Curry averaged over 30 a game from game 5 to 7, and if you're giving Klay the credit for game 6, you have to give Curry the credit for game 7. I don't agree with this assigning one guy all the credit/blame, but if that's your thing be consistent like that.

Besides, we going to act like Bulls didn't win 55 without Jordan, and LeBron had Wade/Bosh as well as excellent role players for his 2 titles (terrible year 1 and 4).

therealbig3 · Post #478 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:02 am

Jeez, you guys are ridiculous with some of the things you're saying.

Meh, whatever. I DON'T have him as the GOAT peak either, but Jordan and LeBron carried teams to titles, while Curry is getting carried to a title? LeBron and Jordan imposed their will on games and Curry doesn't? Curry didn't shoot well in game 6 and wasn't one of the biggest reasons they won?

We get it, you guys don't think Curry is in the conversation of GOAT peak...you don't have to come here and incessantly whine about it every time he has an off game. And it would hold a lot more weight if you guys did it after he played well, instead of only after he plays poorly. Again, NOBODY was here saying anything during those last 3 games against OKC. And I guarantee that nobody would be here saying anything if he happened to shoot well today.

DreDay · Post #479 » by **DreDay** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:05 am

GSP wrote:Struggles against 13 Spurs, 14 Clips, hurt 15 Grizz/Cavs team, 16 Okc. Hes clearly one of the alltime great offensive forces but simply isnt the offensive Goat ppl were hoping for. Hes already had more shaky and inconsistent offensive series than Mj had in his career. Also this is the 2nd game Kyrie has outplayed him in

13 Spurs - Ankle issues, 2nd ever playoff series, Spurs gameplanned exclusively for him.
14 Clips - Terrible matchup for the Warriors, Lee sucked against length and Curry had not developed a consistent way of avoiding traps. Don't forget Jackson ball.
15 Grizz/Cavs - Struggled 1/2 games each series, otherwise fine. 26/5/6 in the Finals when drawing a 4 on 3 every play is GOAT like impact if you ask me, but agree to disagree here.
16 OKC - games 5 to 7 were great, if not dominant games. Wasn't great from 1-4 at all, but down the stretch he was back to business.

and lol at Kyrie outplaying him. Curry could have went 0/20 and outplayed him because of his gravity and unselfishness.

2klegend · Post #480 » by **2klegend** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:05 am

DreDay wrote:
2klegend wrote:
DreDay wrote:
Holy overreaction

One game. Repeat that over and over again. It does not define his year.

To be fair, this playoff Curry having a few great game but his impact on his team winning is marginal at best. It is really about his cast playing to their talent. When they do, Curry performance is irrelevant.

Curry missed the majority of the 1st two rounds, and wasn't the best against OKC from game 1 to 4. But you forget that Curry averaged over 30 a game from game 5 to 7, and if you're giving Klay the credit for game 6, you have to give Curry the credit for game 7. I don't agree with this assigning one guy all the credit/blame, but if that's your thing be consistent like that.

Besides, we going to act like Bulls didn't win 55 without Jordan, and LeBron had Wade/Bosh as well as excellent role players for his 2 titles (terrible year 1 and 4).

I am consistent in my evaluation. Game 6, he was okay at best. Klay outplayed him and was the main reason the Warriors won. Game 7, he played great but then again that performance is predicated on his teammates moreso than it is about Curry dominant in order to win.

Yes, Bulls won 55 games but it's clear without Jordan, they have no shot at titles. You can replace Curry with Lowry and I think they still beat the Cavs if his supporting casts play up to their talent. That's the scary part about this Warriors team that I have been saying for a long time.