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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1401 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:13 am

CharlesOakley wrote:I see no difference between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam. They are both completely whack. You seem to be under the impression that there is only fundamentalist Islam. Islam, like any religion, tends to reflect the extremism of the society that contains it. In Myanmar Buddhist monks are slaughtering Muslims with machetes, including women and babies. Is Buddhism teaching this? Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, and Senegal are all strong Muslim countries that have elected women Presidents. We have yet to do so in the United States. Just like any religion there is a spectrum of ideologies within Islam. Some should be condemned and some should be commended.



The problem some see though is the cavalier nature liberals explain the fringe Islamic (and other) fundamentalists vs the broad brush, indignation and exaggeration of current day Christians. We have a current day epidemic of Muslim fundamentalists easily swayed into joining groups to die and kill scores in the name of their religion and yet today people are inexplicably drawing comparisons. That video just posted would have drawn the ire of the majority if it were a Christian fundamentalist group but its not even worth conversation nowadays.
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Post#1403 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 3, 2016 2:16 am

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knicksrbake wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:


While the laws in this country are written to apply equally to all, in practice this is not the case. There are pay gaps between the genders, which increase when race is factored in. Women do not have equal representation in politics (around 20%) or in board rooms (12.5%). Work that is considered "feminine" is lower pay (think teaching and nursing). Women who are married get paid less on average than their single counterparts. I could go on and on...

As for minorities, the story may be worse. Minorities are given harsher prison sentences and are paroled less frequently than their white counterparts (for the same crimes). Their rights are violated by law enforcement and the justice system more frequently than whites. They are subject to unjust laws (think stop and frisk), they have even less government representation. Again, I could go on and on...

The law may be color and gender blind but law enforcement is not. Enjoy life under your rock.

"There are pay gaps between the genders, which increase when race is factored in." - People are paid the same for the same job. The difference in pay is basically a result of people taking on lower paying jobs or working less hours. Liberals using phrases like "latina women make x amount on every dollar that white males make" is very misleading in this regard.

"Women do not have equal representation in politics (around 20%) or in board rooms (12.5%)" - Representation can be defined in many different ways. You do not need a woman to represent women. Rather, female groups could lobby and have their opinions voiced.

"Women who are married get paid less on average than their single counterparts." - People are paid the same for the same job. The difference in pay in this instance is taking on less hours to spend time with their family.

As for minorities receiving different treatment, and we all know which particular minority group is being referred to here, let's just say one particular group tends to commit crime at a disproportionate rate in comparison to other groups. This leads to more altercations with the police, and thus more hatred for the police.

"Minorities are given harsher prison sentences and are paroled less frequently than their white counterparts (for the same crimes)." - No two crimes are exactly identical. You must look at each individual scenario in a vacuum in order to determine the outcome.

May I ask what your highest level of education is and in what field?
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Post#1404 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 3, 2016 2:59 am

knicksrbake wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:


While the laws in this country are written to apply equally to all, in practice this is not the case. There are pay gaps between the genders, which increase when race is factored in. Women do not have equal representation in politics (around 20%) or in board rooms (12.5%). Work that is considered "feminine" is lower pay (think teaching and nursing). Women who are married get paid less on average than their single counterparts. I could go on and on...

As for minorities, the story may be worse. Minorities are given harsher prison sentences and are paroled less frequently than their white counterparts (for the same crimes). Their rights are violated by law enforcement and the justice system more frequently than whites. They are subject to unjust laws (think stop and frisk), they have even less government representation. Again, I could go on and on...

The law may be color and gender blind but law enforcement is not. Enjoy life under your rock.

"There are pay gaps between the genders, which increase when race is factored in." - People are paid the same for the same job. The difference in pay is basically a result of people taking on lower paying jobs or working less hours. Liberals using phrases like "latina women make x amount on every dollar that white males make" is very misleading in this regard.

"Women do not have equal representation in politics (around 20%) or in board rooms (12.5%)" - Representation can be defined in many different ways. You do not need a woman to represent women. Rather, female groups could lobby and have their opinions voiced.

"Women who are married get paid less on average than their single counterparts." - People are paid the same for the same job. The difference in pay in this instance is taking on less hours to spend time with their family.

As for minorities receiving different treatment, and we all know which particular minority group is being referred to here, let's just say one particular group tends to commit crime at a disproportionate rate in comparison to other groups. This leads to more altercations with the police, and thus more hatred for the police.

"Minorities are given harsher prison sentences and are paroled less frequently than their white counterparts (for the same crimes)." - No two crimes are exactly identical. You must look at each individual scenario in a vacuum in order to determine the outcome.

May I ask what your highest level of education is and in what field?


I was hesitant to mention the gender pay gap as I've heard the counter arguments before. Even if we disregard the pay gap there are still other indicators such as promotion rates for women and minorities in the same position as a white male counterpart. You are incorrect with the difference in pay between women and men with young children.

A new government report finds that women with children under 18 earn less than women without minor children, while men with kids under 18 earn more than men who don't have younger kids.


Blacks are incarcerated at 5 times the rate as white people. They do not commit 5 times the crimes. Black people and white people smoke marijuana at similar rates, yet black people are 3.7 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. Black defendants represent about 35% of drug arrests, yet 46% of convictions. More white people are arrested in this country than black people but about 12% of blacks arrested go to prison while only 2% of whites do (for the same crime).

Regardless of the exact factors behind the incarceration gap, it is not some neutral, statistical fact that black people commit more crime. The gap is the result of numerous interacting factors, not the least of which is racism. Explanations of the incarceration gap as a result of black criminal propensity or cultural deficiencies are critically flawed, and by definition racist.

As for my education, I finished high school. I work as a software engineer and am self-taught. Even though I am lacking in formal education, I read extensively on a multitude of subjects.
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Post#1405 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:44 am

CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
While the laws in this country are written to apply equally to all, in practice this is not the case. There are pay gaps between the genders, which increase when race is factored in. Women do not have equal representation in politics (around 20%) or in board rooms (12.5%). Work that is considered "feminine" is lower pay (think teaching and nursing). Women who are married get paid less on average than their single counterparts. I could go on and on...

As for minorities, the story may be worse. Minorities are given harsher prison sentences and are paroled less frequently than their white counterparts (for the same crimes). Their rights are violated by law enforcement and the justice system more frequently than whites. They are subject to unjust laws (think stop and frisk), they have even less government representation. Again, I could go on and on...

The law may be color and gender blind but law enforcement is not. Enjoy life under your rock.

"There are pay gaps between the genders, which increase when race is factored in." - People are paid the same for the same job. The difference in pay is basically a result of people taking on lower paying jobs or working less hours. Liberals using phrases like "latina women make x amount on every dollar that white males make" is very misleading in this regard.

"Women do not have equal representation in politics (around 20%) or in board rooms (12.5%)" - Representation can be defined in many different ways. You do not need a woman to represent women. Rather, female groups could lobby and have their opinions voiced.

"Women who are married get paid less on average than their single counterparts." - People are paid the same for the same job. The difference in pay in this instance is taking on less hours to spend time with their family.

As for minorities receiving different treatment, and we all know which particular minority group is being referred to here, let's just say one particular group tends to commit crime at a disproportionate rate in comparison to other groups. This leads to more altercations with the police, and thus more hatred for the police.

"Minorities are given harsher prison sentences and are paroled less frequently than their white counterparts (for the same crimes)." - No two crimes are exactly identical. You must look at each individual scenario in a vacuum in order to determine the outcome.

May I ask what your highest level of education is and in what field?


I was hesitant to mention the gender pay gap as I've heard the counter arguments before. Even if we disregard the pay gap there are still other indicators such as promotion rates for women and minorities in the same position as a white male counterpart. You are incorrect with the difference in pay between women and men with young children.

A new government report finds that women with children under 18 earn less than women without minor children, while men with kids under 18 earn more than men who don't have younger kids.


Blacks are incarcerated at 5 times the rate as white people. They do not commit 5 times the crimes. Black people and white people smoke marijuana at similar rates, yet black people are 3.7 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. Black defendants represent about 35% of drug arrests, yet 46% of convictions. More white people are arrested in this country than black people but about 12% of blacks arrested go to prison while only 2% of whites do (for the same crime).

Regardless of the exact factors behind the incarceration gap, it is not some neutral, statistical fact that black people commit more crime. The gap is the result of numerous interacting factors, not the least of which is racism. Explanations of the incarceration gap as a result of black criminal propensity or cultural deficiencies are critically flawed, and by definition racist.

As for my education, I finished high school. I work as a software engineer and am self-taught. Even though I am lacking in formal education, I read extensively on a multitude of subjects.

"A new government report finds that women with children under 18 earn less than women without minor children, while men with kids under 18 earn more than men who don't have younger kids." - Men tend to work more hours. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.

With regards to more whites being arrested than blacks, it's not hard to think that they would be with there being 5 times as many whites as blacks. However, again, one group tends to commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

"As for my education, I finished high school. I work as a software engineer and am self-taught. Even though I am lacking in formal education, I read extensively on a multitude of subjects." - Good on you, mate. I was just curious as to the education/background of someone on the other side. As for myself, I have my BBA in Accounting, and most recently worked doing tax work. Trying to delve into finance as opposed to more accounting work at the moment.
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Post#1406 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:13 am

knicksrbake wrote:"A new government report finds that women with children under 18 earn less than women without minor children, while men with kids under 18 earn more than men who don't have younger kids." - Men tend to work more hours. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.

With regards to more whites being arrested than blacks, it's not hard to think that they would be with there being 5 times as many whites as blacks. However, again, one group tends to commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

"As for my education, I finished high school. I work as a software engineer and am self-taught. Even though I am lacking in formal education, I read extensively on a multitude of subjects." - Good on you, mate. I was just curious as to the education/background of someone on the other side. As for myself, I have my BBA in Accounting, and most recently worked doing tax work. Trying to delve into finance as opposed to more accounting work at the moment.


Your logic of men working more hours is flawed. It doesn't explain why men with children earn more than men without. The point is that if having a family is a detriment to women it should also be a detriment to men.

Blacks do commit a higher percentage of crime but this doesn't explain incarceration rates. Again, more whites are arrested for a crime than blacks for the same crime. (It's around 100 whites to 78 blacks on average) However, a much smaller percentage of whites end up in prison compared to their black counterparts. The issue isn't arrest rates but what percentage of arrests lead to incarceration. Parole rates are also similar.

Blacks have a harder time getting car loans (when they do, equally qualified borrowers get higher interest rates), getting bank loans, buying property (which is also devalued), getting promoted (again, equally qualified), are more likely to be identified as a criminal and even get prescribed medications at lower rates for the same medical condition. If this isn't systemic racism I don't know what is.

I guess you have to ask yourself why blacks commit crime at higher rates than whites? Are they genetically predisposed to commit crime? Does this chart look equitable to you?

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Post#1407 » by EricAnderson » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:14 am

CharlesOakley wrote:I see no difference between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam. They are both completely whack. You seem to be under the impression that there is only fundamentalist Islam. Islam, like any religion, tends to reflect the extremism of the society that contains it. In Myanmar Buddhist monks are slaughtering Muslims with machetes, including women and babies. Is Buddhism teaching this? Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, and Senegal are all strong Muslim countries that have elected women Presidents. We have yet to do so in the United States. Just like any religion there is a spectrum of ideologies within Islam. Some should be condemned and some should be commended.


Fundamental Christianity isn't killing people all over the world in the name of Jesus
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Post#1408 » by EricAnderson » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:52 am

This is what they did to a female trump supporter.. DISGUSTING

https://twitter.com/alwaysactions/status/738582566689603584

It's as if they're trying to prove trumps point
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Post#1409 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:56 am

EricAnderson wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:I see no difference between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam. They are both completely whack. You seem to be under the impression that there is only fundamentalist Islam. Islam, like any religion, tends to reflect the extremism of the society that contains it. In Myanmar Buddhist monks are slaughtering Muslims with machetes, including women and babies. Is Buddhism teaching this? Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, and Senegal are all strong Muslim countries that have elected women Presidents. We have yet to do so in the United States. Just like any religion there is a spectrum of ideologies within Islam. Some should be condemned and some should be commended.


Fundamental Christianity isn't killing people all over the world in the name of Jesus


We have murders by fundamentalist Christians all the time. In the US, "terrorist" is a word reserved for brown people. We have bombings and shootings of abortion clinics (google Army of God), suicide attacks on IRS buildings and Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombings. The KKK is a Christian terrorist group. We have the Lambs of Christ, The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSA), Defensive Action, the Montana Freemen, and some "Christian militia" groups, all which fit the definition of Christian extremists. Eric Rober Rudolph carried out the Centennial Olympic Park bombing, attacked an abortion clinic and a lesbian night club. Robert Doggart had acquired an M4 carbine with 500 rounds of ammo and was planning on visiting a Muslim community for the FBI caught him. There are Christian terrorist groups all over the world, in India, Africa, Lebanon, Israel, and Uganda.

If Trump takes office I suspect we will see more and more of these groups in action.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/
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Post#1410 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:07 am

EricAnderson wrote:This is what they did to a female trump supporter.. DISGUSTING

https://twitter.com/alwaysactions/status/738582566689603584

It's as if they're trying to prove trumps point


Blows have come from both sides. I don't support any form of hate or violence but Trump's hands are dirty too. We have a presidential candidate who incites violence. http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#Otv1HOSL7iqK
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Post#1411 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:57 am

CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:"A new government report finds that women with children under 18 earn less than women without minor children, while men with kids under 18 earn more than men who don't have younger kids." - Men tend to work more hours. It's not a difficult concept to comprehend.

With regards to more whites being arrested than blacks, it's not hard to think that they would be with there being 5 times as many whites as blacks. However, again, one group tends to commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

"As for my education, I finished high school. I work as a software engineer and am self-taught. Even though I am lacking in formal education, I read extensively on a multitude of subjects." - Good on you, mate. I was just curious as to the education/background of someone on the other side. As for myself, I have my BBA in Accounting, and most recently worked doing tax work. Trying to delve into finance as opposed to more accounting work at the moment.


Your logic of men working more hours is flawed. It doesn't explain why men with children earn more than men without. The point is that if having a family is a detriment to women it should also be a detriment to men.

Blacks do commit a higher percentage of crime but this doesn't explain incarceration rates. Again, more whites are arrested for a crime than blacks for the same crime. (It's around 100 whites to 78 blacks on average) However, a much smaller percentage of whites end up in prison compared to their black counterparts. The issue isn't arrest rates but what percentage of arrests lead to incarceration. Parole rates are also similar.

Blacks have a harder time getting car loans (when they do, equally qualified borrowers get higher interest rates), getting bank loans, buying property (which is also devalued), getting promoted (again, equally qualified), are more likely to be identified as a criminal and even get prescribed medications at lower rates for the same medical condition. If this isn't systemic racism I don't know what is.

I guess you have to ask yourself why blacks commit crime at higher rates than whites? Are they genetically predisposed to commit crime? Does this chart look equitable to you?

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With regards to men working more hours, it's true. Men with children are probably older... thus they're in higher positions than men without children? Also, women have traditionally taken care of the household, and men haven't. Thus, women taking less hours to spend more time with their children isn't out of the norm.

As for systematic oppression/racism, it doesn't exist. Things aren't equal because one race has a culture that embraces stupidity: drugs, violence, and careless sex are all encouraged by a particular culture. Thus, they end up either in jail or with children that they can't afford to take care of, and then those kids grow up without fathers or have fathers that can't adequately provide for them.
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Post#1412 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:49 pm

knicksrbake wrote:As for systematic oppression/racism, it doesn't exist. Things aren't equal because one race has a culture that embraces stupidity: drugs, violence, and careless sex are all encouraged by a particular culture. Thus, they end up either in jail or with children that they can't afford to take care of, and then those kids grow up without fathers or have fathers that can't adequately provide for them.


For a numbers guy you don't seem to want to understand them. You can either admit there is systemic racism, because the facts or overwhelming, or you can deny the facts and blame culture or genetics or whatever. If you choose the second option then you are a racist by definition. Some more facts for you to deny:

Black children are 18 times more likely to be sentenced as adults than white children, and make up nearly 60 percent of children in prisons, according to the APA.


About a fifth of disabled children are black – yet they account for 44 and 42 percent of disabled students put in mechanical restraints or placed in seclusion.


Black college graduates are twice as likely as whites to struggle to find jobs - the jobless rate for blacks has been double that of whites for decades. A study even found that people with “black-sounding names” had to send out 50 percent more job applications than people with “white-sounding names” just to get a call back.


The gap between median household income for whites (about $91,000) compared to blacks (about $7,000) is staggering, and that gap has tripled in just the past 25 years. The median net worth of white families is about $265,000, while it was just $28,500 for blacks.


A black man is three times more likely to be searched at a traffic stop, and six times more likely to go jail than a white person.


Blacks aren’t pulled over (and subsequently jailed) more frequently because they’re more prone to criminal behavior. They’re pulled over much more frequently because there is an “implicit racial association of black Americans with dangerous or aggressive behavior,” the Sentencing Project found.


On the New Jersey Turnpike, for instance, blacks make up 15 percent of drivers, more than 40 percent of stops and 73 percent of arrests – even though they break traffic laws at the same rate as whites.


If a black person kills a white person, they are twice as likely to receive the death sentence as a white person who kills a black person. Local prosecutors are much more likely to upgrade a case to felony murder if you’re black than if you’re white.


Juries are stacked against you if you’re black. Racial bias in jury selection is ridiculous – qualified black jurors are illegally turned away as much as 80 percent of the time in the jury selection process.


Black people stay in prison longer than white people – up to 20 percent longer than white people serving time for essentially similar crimes. They get much harsher sentences – black people are 38 percent more likely to be sentenced to death than white people for the same crimes.


Whites and blacks represent about half of murder victims from year to year, but 77 percent of people who are executed killed a white person, while only 13 percent of death row executions represent those who killed a black person.


Blacks are less than 13% of the U.S. population, and yet they are 31% of all fatal police shooting victims, and 39% of those killed by police even though they weren’t attacking.


This is just one aspect of systemic racism. There is the war on drugs, voter suppression, housing disparities etc.
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Post#1413 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 3, 2016 6:29 pm

Most Trump supporters think he keeps it real. Bernie actually does [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B72Iiu2bIyo[/youtube]
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Post#1414 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:15 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:As for systematic oppression/racism, it doesn't exist. Things aren't equal because one race has a culture that embraces stupidity: drugs, violence, and careless sex are all encouraged by a particular culture. Thus, they end up either in jail or with children that they can't afford to take care of, and then those kids grow up without fathers or have fathers that can't adequately provide for them.


For a numbers guy you don't seem to want to understand them. You can either admit there is systemic racism, because the facts or overwhelming, or you can deny the facts and blame culture or genetics or whatever. If you choose the second option then you are a racist by definition. Some more facts for you to deny:

Black children are 18 times more likely to be sentenced as adults than white children, and make up nearly 60 percent of children in prisons, according to the APA.


About a fifth of disabled children are black – yet they account for 44 and 42 percent of disabled students put in mechanical restraints or placed in seclusion.


Black college graduates are twice as likely as whites to struggle to find jobs - the jobless rate for blacks has been double that of whites for decades. A study even found that people with “black-sounding names” had to send out 50 percent more job applications than people with “white-sounding names” just to get a call back.


The gap between median household income for whites (about $91,000) compared to blacks (about $7,000) is staggering, and that gap has tripled in just the past 25 years. The median net worth of white families is about $265,000, while it was just $28,500 for blacks.


A black man is three times more likely to be searched at a traffic stop, and six times more likely to go jail than a white person.


Blacks aren’t pulled over (and subsequently jailed) more frequently because they’re more prone to criminal behavior. They’re pulled over much more frequently because there is an “implicit racial association of black Americans with dangerous or aggressive behavior,” the Sentencing Project found.


On the New Jersey Turnpike, for instance, blacks make up 15 percent of drivers, more than 40 percent of stops and 73 percent of arrests – even though they break traffic laws at the same rate as whites.


If a black person kills a white person, they are twice as likely to receive the death sentence as a white person who kills a black person. Local prosecutors are much more likely to upgrade a case to felony murder if you’re black than if you’re white.


Juries are stacked against you if you’re black. Racial bias in jury selection is ridiculous – qualified black jurors are illegally turned away as much as 80 percent of the time in the jury selection process.


Black people stay in prison longer than white people – up to 20 percent longer than white people serving time for essentially similar crimes. They get much harsher sentences – black people are 38 percent more likely to be sentenced to death than white people for the same crimes.


Whites and blacks represent about half of murder victims from year to year, but 77 percent of people who are executed killed a white person, while only 13 percent of death row executions represent those who killed a black person.


Blacks are less than 13% of the U.S. population, and yet they are 31% of all fatal police shooting victims, and 39% of those killed by police even though they weren’t attacking.


This is just one aspect of systemic racism. There is the war on drugs, voter suppression, housing disparities etc.

It's mainly a culture thing. That's not racist to say. I've lived in Brooklyn my entire life, and I can tell you first hand that their culture is down-right destructive. Violence and crime are encouraged, which are two of the main things that are discouraged by virtually every other culture. To repair the black community,

The black college graduates having a higher unemployment rate than white college graduates... you would have to look at where they're getting their degrees from, what fields their degrees are in, what their GPAs were, how many internships did they do, etc. There are too many factors; it's just a very flawed study.

As for blacks getting arrested more often and such, you could thank the Clintons for that. Black incarcerations shot up directly due to the Clintons. With regards to blacks being victims of fatal police shootings, maybe they shouldn't violently resist arrest? Ex: Michael Brown.

To say that blacks receive harsher sentences for the same crime... again, each case must be taken into a vacuum and examined as its own case. You can't say it's for the "same crime" when every crime is different. Same charge, yes. Same crime, no.

If you want to fix the problems plaguing black Americans, the thing you must fix is the culture. Blaming everything on outside forces is just a joke. Anyway, I think that's enough, I'd rather not keep getting into it with you on this subject, since our views on it are vastly different and we're not going to be accepting of each others' arguments anyway.
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Post#1415 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:31 pm

This is the "tolerant left," ladies and gentlemen.

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1MYGNNPvwmZGw

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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unoBT8Te13g[/youtube]

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1416 » by TrueWarrior » Fri Jun 3, 2016 7:52 pm

These "protestors" will be thrown in the trash, and over the wall, when the Don wins. That's why they're petrified and lashing out like babies. Ignorant animals, the lot of em. They may go right on back to Mexico if they want to waive their flag and burn ours. Pulling all this sh*t is only making the rest of the country hate them, so good job dickheads.

Tired of police being told to stand down so these nutters can run amok too.

This is the Nu-America Obama helped instigate. Guy has been a total joke.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1417 » by Riot Randolph » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:09 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:These "protestors" will be thrown in the trash, and over the wall, when the Don wins. That's why they're petrified and lashing out like babies. Ignorant animals, the lot of em. They may go right on back to Mexico if they want to waive their flag and burn ours. Pulling all this sh*t is only making the rest of the country hate them, so good job dickheads.

Tired of police being told to stand down so these nutters can run amok too.

This is the Nu-America Obama helped instigate. Guy has been a total joke.

how do you function day to day...
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1418 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:22 pm

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1419 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:34 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:These "protestors" will be thrown in the trash, and over the wall, when the Don wins. That's why they're petrified and lashing out like babies. Ignorant animals, the lot of em. They may go right on back to Mexico if they want to waive their flag and burn ours. Pulling all this sh*t is only making the rest of the country hate them, so good job dickheads.

Tired of police being told to stand down so these nutters can run amok too.

This is the Nu-America Obama helped instigate. Guy has been a total joke.


Nice hate speech. Calling someone an "ignorant animal" shows only your own ignorance. Seems like you are more interested in a KKKnu-America.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1420 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jun 3, 2016 8:38 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:These "protestors" will be thrown in the trash, and over the wall, when the Don wins. That's why they're petrified and lashing out like babies. Ignorant animals, the lot of em. They may go right on back to Mexico if they want to waive their flag and burn ours. Pulling all this sh*t is only making the rest of the country hate them, so good job dickheads.

Tired of police being told to stand down so these nutters can run amok too.

This is the Nu-America Obama helped instigate. Guy has been a total joke.


I believe that Obama has deported more Latinos than any other president.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/05/obama-exceeds-million-mark-deportations/7340419/

Under President Barack Obama's administration, the U.S. has exceeded 2 million deportations. The milestone means Obama's administration has deported more people than any other president's. Reform advocates want Obama to stop deporting some immigrants until Congress takes action.


President Reagan, on the other hand, signed in legislation that gave amnesty to 2.7 million illegal immigrants.

I'm not arguing which side is right or wrong or whether each is right or wrong in its given context. I'm just laying out the facts.

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