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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1441 » by CharlesOakley » Sat Jun 4, 2016 5:40 am

knicksrbake wrote:He was found guilty of sexual assault, not rape. Maybe if you took the time to do a little bit of research. Also had no priors unlike a lot of rapists, you know. It's always whiteys fault though.


I'm starting to think you are a special kind of stupid. In California, Penal Code 289 PC "Forcible Penetration with a Foreign Object" falls under the umbrella of California rape law. It was rape, which is why every article about the case has the word "RAPE" in it.

Brock Turner, 20, was convicted of three felony charges: assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object.


You know how it goes, you meet a girl at a party, one thing leads to another and you stick a foreign object in her. I'm sure she consented to this because Brock testified that she did. And what woman doesn't enjoy having these sort of romantic moments in the dirt behind a dumpster. For perspective, the maximum sentence for this is 16 years.

Turner testified that the Palo Alto woman, who was 22 at the time, was awake and conscious throughout their encounter and that he never intended to rape her. But the woman did not wake for at least three hours and had a blood-alcohol level more than three times the legal limit.


PC 289 forcible acts of sexual penetration is a felony in California law.

In most cases, it carries a potential California state prison sentence of three (3), six (6) or eight (8) years, and a fine of up to ten thousand dollars ($10,000)


So if the law suggests 3 years as a minimum and the judge decides to give him 6 months, his time will be served in county jail rather than state prison and he will likely be out in 6-8 weeks for good behavior.

Here is what the DA had to say on the matter:

“The punishment does not fit the crime,” Rosen said in a statement. “The predatory offender has failed to take responsibility, failed to show remorse and failed to tell the truth."


Even after being caught in the act, and being found guilty of three felonies, Brock still continues to deny he sexually assaulted her.

So you honestly believe that a black kid, even with stellar grades and wonderful letters of recommendation, would have gotten this same sentence? Really? Really? Lets review our history:

Just prior to the Civil War, an 1861 Georgia law specified a mandatory death sentence for rape of a white woman by a black man. A white man raping a white woman could receive a sentence of two to twenty years. Rape of a black woman had no mandatory sentence.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMWAEQl


Water under the bridge right?
A study in California showed that whites charged with a felony were more likely than blacks or Hispanics to have charges reduced or dismissed. Of the first-time offenders in San Francisco, the courts sentenced 4 percent of the white offenders to state prisons, 7 percent of black offenders, and 11 percent of Hispanic offenders.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMoItYX


Another major point that I don't have time to drill into your thick skull is what this case says about the rights of men versus women in this country. Even if you can't understand that systemic racism is alive and well, can you not see that the judge prioritized the attacker over the victim? What does this say about inequality between the sexes when a judge is more concerned how a rape affects the rapist than the victim?

Here is what the judge had to say:

“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him"
Wow!

No mention of what sort of impact being raped has on the victim. If you decide to respond to this post please refrain from using such cliches as she was drunk or she was asking for it. Here are some questions to ponder from the victim herself:

If I had been sexually assaulted by an un-athletic guy from a community college, what would his sentence be? If a first time offender from an underprivileged background was accused of three felonies and displayed no accountability for his actions, what would his sentence be?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1442 » by knicksrbake » Sat Jun 4, 2016 5:57 am

CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:He was found guilty of sexual assault, not rape. Maybe if you took the time to do a little bit of research. Also had no priors unlike a lot of rapists, you know. It's always whiteys fault though.


I'm starting to think you are a special kind of stupid. In California, Penal Code 289 PC "Forcible Penetration with a Foreign Object" falls under the umbrella of California rape law. It was rape, which is why every article about the case has the word "RAPE" in it.

Brock Turner, 20, was convicted of three felony charges: assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object.


You know how it goes, you meet a girl at a party, one thing leads to another and you stick a foreign object in her. I'm sure she consented to this because Brock testified that she did. And what woman doesn't enjoy having these sort of romantic moments in the dirt behind a dumpster. For perspective, the maximum sentence for this is 16 years.

Turner testified that the Palo Alto woman, who was 22 at the time, was awake and conscious throughout their encounter and that he never intended to rape her. But the woman did not wake for at least three hours and had a blood-alcohol level more than three times the legal limit.


PC 289 forcible acts of sexual penetration is a felony in California law.

In most cases, it carries a potential California state prison sentence of three (3), six (6) or eight (8) years, and a fine of up to ten thousand dollars ($10,000)


So if the law suggests 3 years as a minimum and the judge decides to give him 6 months, his time will be served in county jail rather than state prison and he will likely be out in 6-8 weeks for good behavior.

Here is what the DA had to say on the matter:

“The punishment does not fit the crime,” Rosen said in a statement. “The predatory offender has failed to take responsibility, failed to show remorse and failed to tell the truth."


Even after being caught in the act, and being found guilty of three felonies, Brock still continues to deny he sexually assaulted her.

So you honestly believe that a black kid, even with stellar grades and wonderful letters of recommendation, would have gotten this same sentence? Really? Really? Lets review our history:

Just prior to the Civil War, an 1861 Georgia law specified a mandatory death sentence for rape of a white woman by a black man. A white man raping a white woman could receive a sentence of two to twenty years. Rape of a black woman had no mandatory sentence.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMWAEQl


Water under the bridge right?
A study in California showed that whites charged with a felony were more likely than blacks or Hispanics to have charges reduced or dismissed. Of the first-time offenders in San Francisco, the courts sentenced 4 percent of the white offenders to state prisons, 7 percent of black offenders, and 11 percent of Hispanic offenders.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMoItYX


Another major point that I don't have time to drill into your thick skull is what this case says about the rights of men versus women in this country. Even if you can't understand that systemic racism is alive and well, can you not see that the judge prioritized the attacker over the victim? What does this say about inequality between the sexes when a judge is more concerned how a rape affects the rapist than the victim?

Here is what the judge had to say:

“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him"
Wow!

No mention of what sort of impact being raped has on the victim. If you decide to respond to this post please refrain from using such cliches as she was drunk or she was asking for it. Here are some questions to ponder from the victim herself:

If I had been sexually assaulted by an un-athletic guy from a community college, what would his sentence be? If a first time offender from an underprivileged background was accused of three felonies and displayed no accountability for his actions, what would his sentence be?

After further investigation, it turns out they were both piss drunk. Hm... maybe that could be a factor? Nah, must be his race. Honestly, the way you try to paint white people out as some kind of evil force oppressing blacks in 2016 is pretty hilarious. Our country offers everyone an equal opportunity (hell, with affirmative action, minorities may even have MORE opportunity), not equal results. Maybe if people worked harder they would be able to achieve success.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1443 » by CJackson » Sat Jun 4, 2016 7:01 am

knicksrbake wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:He was found guilty of sexual assault, not rape. Maybe if you took the time to do a little bit of research. Also had no priors unlike a lot of rapists, you know. It's always whiteys fault though.


I'm starting to think you are a special kind of stupid. In California, Penal Code 289 PC "Forcible Penetration with a Foreign Object" falls under the umbrella of California rape law. It was rape, which is why every article about the case has the word "RAPE" in it.

Brock Turner, 20, was convicted of three felony charges: assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object.


You know how it goes, you meet a girl at a party, one thing leads to another and you stick a foreign object in her. I'm sure she consented to this because Brock testified that she did. And what woman doesn't enjoy having these sort of romantic moments in the dirt behind a dumpster. For perspective, the maximum sentence for this is 16 years.

Turner testified that the Palo Alto woman, who was 22 at the time, was awake and conscious throughout their encounter and that he never intended to rape her. But the woman did not wake for at least three hours and had a blood-alcohol level more than three times the legal limit.


PC 289 forcible acts of sexual penetration is a felony in California law.

In most cases, it carries a potential California state prison sentence of three (3), six (6) or eight (8) years, and a fine of up to ten thousand dollars ($10,000)


So if the law suggests 3 years as a minimum and the judge decides to give him 6 months, his time will be served in county jail rather than state prison and he will likely be out in 6-8 weeks for good behavior.

Here is what the DA had to say on the matter:

“The punishment does not fit the crime,” Rosen said in a statement. “The predatory offender has failed to take responsibility, failed to show remorse and failed to tell the truth."


Even after being caught in the act, and being found guilty of three felonies, Brock still continues to deny he sexually assaulted her.

So you honestly believe that a black kid, even with stellar grades and wonderful letters of recommendation, would have gotten this same sentence? Really? Really? Lets review our history:

Just prior to the Civil War, an 1861 Georgia law specified a mandatory death sentence for rape of a white woman by a black man. A white man raping a white woman could receive a sentence of two to twenty years. Rape of a black woman had no mandatory sentence.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMWAEQl


Water under the bridge right?
A study in California showed that whites charged with a felony were more likely than blacks or Hispanics to have charges reduced or dismissed. Of the first-time offenders in San Francisco, the courts sentenced 4 percent of the white offenders to state prisons, 7 percent of black offenders, and 11 percent of Hispanic offenders.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMoItYX


Another major point that I don't have time to drill into your thick skull is what this case says about the rights of men versus women in this country. Even if you can't understand that systemic racism is alive and well, can you not see that the judge prioritized the attacker over the victim? What does this say about inequality between the sexes when a judge is more concerned how a rape affects the rapist than the victim?

Here is what the judge had to say:

“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him"
Wow!

No mention of what sort of impact being raped has on the victim. If you decide to respond to this post please refrain from using such cliches as she was drunk or she was asking for it. Here are some questions to ponder from the victim herself:

If I had been sexually assaulted by an un-athletic guy from a community college, what would his sentence be? If a first time offender from an underprivileged background was accused of three felonies and displayed no accountability for his actions, what would his sentence be?


After further investigation, it turns out they were both piss drunk. Hm... maybe that could be a factor? Nah, must be his race. Honestly, the way you try to paint white people out as some kind of evil force oppressing blacks in 2016 is pretty hilarious. Our country offers everyone an equal opportunity (hell, with affirmative action, minorities may even have MORE opportunity), not equal results. Maybe if people worked harder they would be able to achieve success.


You are just like George Gilder. I was at a dinner party with him and he turned to me and and said with a totally straight face that every single mother on welfare should have all their benefits cut and if they were not willing to go to work then they and their children deserve to starve.

I am sure George meant no racism intended but thats how the ruthless roll. If the majority of those single mothers were in fact black then so be it, right?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1444 » by CharlesOakley » Sat Jun 4, 2016 2:52 pm

knicksrbake wrote:After further investigation, it turns out they were both piss drunk. Hm... maybe that could be a factor? Nah, must be his race. Honestly, the way you try to paint white people out as some kind of evil force oppressing blacks in 2016 is pretty hilarious. Our country offers everyone an equal opportunity (hell, with affirmative action, minorities may even have MORE opportunity), not equal results. Maybe if people worked harder they would be able to achieve success.


Only one of them was so drunk that she was unconscious for 3 hours after being raped. But please, post the statute that indicates being drunk should give you a lesser sentence in a rape case.

You know what isn't hilarious? Your complete denial of all facts that don't fit your personal narative. I've posted 20-30 studies showing ways in which there is systemic racism in this country. Your response to all of them is, "that's not true". This shows a level of close mindedness bordering on fantasy.

Was slavery racist?
Were Jim Crow laws racist?
What about this? http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2016/feb/24/mississippi-governor-declares-april-confederate-hi/

When you are ready to have a discussion that involves facts I'll be here.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1445 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jun 4, 2016 3:02 pm

knicksrbake wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:He was found guilty of sexual assault, not rape. Maybe if you took the time to do a little bit of research. Also had no priors unlike a lot of rapists, you know. It's always whiteys fault though.


I'm starting to think you are a special kind of stupid. In California, Penal Code 289 PC "Forcible Penetration with a Foreign Object" falls under the umbrella of California rape law. It was rape, which is why every article about the case has the word "RAPE" in it.

Brock Turner, 20, was convicted of three felony charges: assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object.


You know how it goes, you meet a girl at a party, one thing leads to another and you stick a foreign object in her. I'm sure she consented to this because Brock testified that she did. And what woman doesn't enjoy having these sort of romantic moments in the dirt behind a dumpster. For perspective, the maximum sentence for this is 16 years.

Turner testified that the Palo Alto woman, who was 22 at the time, was awake and conscious throughout their encounter and that he never intended to rape her. But the woman did not wake for at least three hours and had a blood-alcohol level more than three times the legal limit.


PC 289 forcible acts of sexual penetration is a felony in California law.

In most cases, it carries a potential California state prison sentence of three (3), six (6) or eight (8) years, and a fine of up to ten thousand dollars ($10,000)


So if the law suggests 3 years as a minimum and the judge decides to give him 6 months, his time will be served in county jail rather than state prison and he will likely be out in 6-8 weeks for good behavior.

Here is what the DA had to say on the matter:

“The punishment does not fit the crime,” Rosen said in a statement. “The predatory offender has failed to take responsibility, failed to show remorse and failed to tell the truth."


Even after being caught in the act, and being found guilty of three felonies, Brock still continues to deny he sexually assaulted her.

So you honestly believe that a black kid, even with stellar grades and wonderful letters of recommendation, would have gotten this same sentence? Really? Really? Lets review our history:

Just prior to the Civil War, an 1861 Georgia law specified a mandatory death sentence for rape of a white woman by a black man. A white man raping a white woman could receive a sentence of two to twenty years. Rape of a black woman had no mandatory sentence.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMWAEQl


Water under the bridge right?
A study in California showed that whites charged with a felony were more likely than blacks or Hispanics to have charges reduced or dismissed. Of the first-time offenders in San Francisco, the courts sentenced 4 percent of the white offenders to state prisons, 7 percent of black offenders, and 11 percent of Hispanic offenders.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMoItYX


Another major point that I don't have time to drill into your thick skull is what this case says about the rights of men versus women in this country. Even if you can't understand that systemic racism is alive and well, can you not see that the judge prioritized the attacker over the victim? What does this say about inequality between the sexes when a judge is more concerned how a rape affects the rapist than the victim?

Here is what the judge had to say:

“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him"
Wow!

No mention of what sort of impact being raped has on the victim. If you decide to respond to this post please refrain from using such cliches as she was drunk or she was asking for it. Here are some questions to ponder from the victim herself:

If I had been sexually assaulted by an un-athletic guy from a community college, what would his sentence be? If a first time offender from an underprivileged background was accused of three felonies and displayed no accountability for his actions, what would his sentence be?

After further investigation, it turns out they were both piss drunk. Hm... maybe that could be a factor? Nah, must be his race. Honestly, the way you try to paint white people out as some kind of evil force oppressing blacks in 2016 is pretty hilarious. Our country offers everyone an equal opportunity (hell, with affirmative action, minorities may even have MORE opportunity), not equal results. Maybe if people worked harder they would be able to achieve success.


Well, of course white people as a whole aren't bad or out to get black people. And some are racists, just like every other race has. But if you really believe the fairly tale that EVERY person has an equal opportunity, you are just dumber than dog sh*t. No offense.

Can SOME some number of people from disadvantaged backgrounds achieve? Surely they can and they do. But if the playing field is so equal, how come the Upper, upper middle, and middle class isn't comprised equally of people who prior came from the upper class/upper middle/middle, upper lower, and lower classes? With this even playing field, there would be gigantic social mobility up and down. Clearly there isn't. Explain why.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1446 » by CJackson » Sat Jun 4, 2016 3:28 pm

I should have known better. None of the Trump thumpers are likely to even know who George Gilder is anymore than the likeliehood that any of them have ever read Ludwig von Mises or J.K. Galbraith. Illiterates driven by hate and resentment are what Lenin called "Useful Idiots" which are the rabid supporters you collect to push your agenda forwards. They are your political stormtroopers and are completely dispensable but they serve their purpose well.

Trumps one and only political genius is knowing being a completely outrageous dick with zero grasp of policy is exactly the behavior that attracts these minions. The minions then project all of their pent up rage and need for a hero on to the candidate. They claim the candidate is everything everyone else is not and consider their hero infallible. And thus you get Trump loyalists incapable of admitting their man is the biggest clown to hit the American stage probably ever and an embarassment as a human being.

What else explains their complete inability to admit a single wrong of a man whose whole life is littered with a trail of personal and financial destruction that has left thousands holding the empty bag. Their only tactic is to blabber like useful idiots that Hilary is even worse when nobody is talking about her in glowing terms equivalent to how they pitch their cardboard father figure. If these black and white mouthpieces think Hillary can do harm as a president then suggesting Trump wouldnt devastate anybody who ticks off his shallow touchy little boy ego are fooling themselves even more.

She is flawed but Trump is incompetent and lies about EVERYTHING yet that is somehow OK. Trump is taking these suckers for one hell of a ride because the second you disagree with Trump you are on his hit list. So keep denying any fault with Trump and you will stay off his hit list. Anyone who disagrees with Trump will be in the dumpster fire if he ever got elected because that is how "The Don" rolls.
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Post#1447 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 4, 2016 3:32 pm

^^^^ Dayum, you guys put the Buckley v. Vidal debates to shame.
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Post#1448 » by Rasho Brezec » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:12 pm

knicksrbake wrote:Leftism is a disease.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/violence-breaks-trump-rally-san-jose-protesters-hurl/story?id=39576437

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/marcusdipaola/status/738572899808743424[/tweet]

How brain dead on a scale from 1 to Kardashian do you have to be to persecute a group of people based on their political beliefs and accuse THEM of being nazis?
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Post#1449 » by CJackson » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:21 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:Leftism is a disease.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/violence-breaks-trump-rally-san-jose-protesters-hurl/story?id=39576437

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/marcusdipaola/status/738572899808743424[/tweet]

How brain dead on a scale from 1 to Kardashian do you have to be to persecute a group of people based on their political beliefs and accuse THEM of being nazis?


There are idiots everywhere. You have illiterates with too much testosterone across the political spectrum acting out these days. It is symptom of the social order not some kind of invalidation of any one candidate.

What is a fact is Trump is the ONLY candidate stoking the violence. Can you name any other candidate in 2016 who was courting the Nazi sympathizer vote? NO YOU CANT. Why did Trump not immediately distance himself from well known Nazi David Duke? Because he was playing the fence pulling in their votes that is why. So lets not pretend there is not Nazi themes going on here and that none of Trumps supporters have gotten physical too.
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Post#1450 » by CharlesOakley » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:33 pm

I wish people would stop using Nazi every time they don't like something but Trump is about a big a fascist as we've ever had in American politics.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1451 » by knicksrbake » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:44 pm

CJackson wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:Leftism is a disease.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/violence-breaks-trump-rally-san-jose-protesters-hurl/story?id=39576437

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/marcusdipaola/status/738572899808743424[/tweet]

How brain dead on a scale from 1 to Kardashian do you have to be to persecute a group of people based on their political beliefs and accuse THEM of being nazis?


There are idiots everywhere. You have illiterates with too much testosterone across the political spectrum acting out these days. It is symptom of the social order not some kind of invalidation of any one candidate.

What is a fact is Trump is the ONLY candidate stoking the violence. Can you name any other candidate in 2016 who was courting the Nazi sympathizer vote? NO YOU CANT. Why did Trump not immediately distance himself from well known Nazi David Duke? Because he was playing the fence pulling in their votes that is why. So lets not pretend there is not Nazi themes going on here and that none of Trumps supporters have gotten physical too.

David Duke was a KKK member. Funny enough, Hillary was not only endorsed by the KKK, but she also received a donation of $20,000 from them. Maybe you should do some research.

Trump egged on the violence (jokingly) 6 months ago. You cannot find anything recent with him egging them on. The violence was only to ANTI-TRUMP PROTESTERS that were in his RALLIES. You don't see Trump supporters going into Hillary or Bernie rallies trying to cause trouble. You don't see Trump supporters sitting outside of Hillary or Bernie rallies trying to gang up on people for their beliefs.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1452 » by Riot Randolph » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:47 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:He was found guilty of sexual assault, not rape. Maybe if you took the time to do a little bit of research. Also had no priors unlike a lot of rapists, you know. It's always whiteys fault though.


I'm starting to think you are a special kind of stupid. In California, Penal Code 289 PC "Forcible Penetration with a Foreign Object" falls under the umbrella of California rape law. It was rape, which is why every article about the case has the word "RAPE" in it.

Brock Turner, 20, was convicted of three felony charges: assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object.


You know how it goes, you meet a girl at a party, one thing leads to another and you stick a foreign object in her. I'm sure she consented to this because Brock testified that she did. And what woman doesn't enjoy having these sort of romantic moments in the dirt behind a dumpster. For perspective, the maximum sentence for this is 16 years.

Turner testified that the Palo Alto woman, who was 22 at the time, was awake and conscious throughout their encounter and that he never intended to rape her. But the woman did not wake for at least three hours and had a blood-alcohol level more than three times the legal limit.


PC 289 forcible acts of sexual penetration is a felony in California law.

In most cases, it carries a potential California state prison sentence of three (3), six (6) or eight (8) years, and a fine of up to ten thousand dollars ($10,000)


So if the law suggests 3 years as a minimum and the judge decides to give him 6 months, his time will be served in county jail rather than state prison and he will likely be out in 6-8 weeks for good behavior.

Here is what the DA had to say on the matter:

“The punishment does not fit the crime,” Rosen said in a statement. “The predatory offender has failed to take responsibility, failed to show remorse and failed to tell the truth."


Even after being caught in the act, and being found guilty of three felonies, Brock still continues to deny he sexually assaulted her.

So you honestly believe that a black kid, even with stellar grades and wonderful letters of recommendation, would have gotten this same sentence? Really? Really? Lets review our history:

Just prior to the Civil War, an 1861 Georgia law specified a mandatory death sentence for rape of a white woman by a black man. A white man raping a white woman could receive a sentence of two to twenty years. Rape of a black woman had no mandatory sentence.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMWAEQl


Water under the bridge right?
A study in California showed that whites charged with a felony were more likely than blacks or Hispanics to have charges reduced or dismissed. Of the first-time offenders in San Francisco, the courts sentenced 4 percent of the white offenders to state prisons, 7 percent of black offenders, and 11 percent of Hispanic offenders.

Read more: Race and Ethnicity - Sentencing And Minorities - Black, White, Offenders, and Percent - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/12130/Race-Ethnicity-Sentencing-minorities.html#ixzz4AaMoItYX


Another major point that I don't have time to drill into your thick skull is what this case says about the rights of men versus women in this country. Even if you can't understand that systemic racism is alive and well, can you not see that the judge prioritized the attacker over the victim? What does this say about inequality between the sexes when a judge is more concerned how a rape affects the rapist than the victim?

Here is what the judge had to say:

“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him"
Wow!

No mention of what sort of impact being raped has on the victim. If you decide to respond to this post please refrain from using such cliches as she was drunk or she was asking for it. Here are some questions to ponder from the victim herself:

If I had been sexually assaulted by an un-athletic guy from a community college, what would his sentence be? If a first time offender from an underprivileged background was accused of three felonies and displayed no accountability for his actions, what would his sentence be?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1453 » by CJackson » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:48 pm

knicksrbake wrote:
CJackson wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:How brain dead on a scale from 1 to Kardashian do you have to be to persecute a group of people based on their political beliefs and accuse THEM of being nazis?


There are idiots everywhere. You have illiterates with too much testosterone across the political spectrum acting out these days. It is symptom of the social order not some kind of invalidation of any one candidate.

What is a fact is Trump is the ONLY candidate stoking the violence. Can you name any other candidate in 2016 who was courting the Nazi sympathizer vote? NO YOU CANT. Why did Trump not immediately distance himself from well known Nazi David Duke? Because he was playing the fence pulling in their votes that is why. So lets not pretend there is not Nazi themes going on here and that none of Trumps supporters have gotten physical too.

David Duke was a KKK member. Funny enough, Hillary was not only endorsed by the KKK, but she also received a donation of $20,000 from them. Maybe you should do some research.

Trump egged on the violence (jokingly) 6 months ago. You cannot find anything recent with him egging them on. The violence was only to ANTI-TRUMP PROTESTERS that were in his RALLIES. You don't see Trump supporters going into Hillary or Bernie rallies trying to cause trouble. You don't see Trump supporters sitting outside of Hillary or Bernie rallies trying to gang up on people for their beliefs.


Do some research? Go ahead and ask Clinton if they support David Duke. You think she would hem and haw? Trump waffled for a reason and you know why.

and he "Jokingly" egged on violence. Spin us some more cotton candy
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Post#1454 » by CJackson » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:52 pm

And as far as the smug answer that David Duke was a Grand Wizard of the KKK and has no connections to Nazism maybe you should do some research yourself

http://www.nndb.com/people/210/000024138/

"At Louisiana State University he founded the White Youth Alliance. He was active in the school's ROTC program, winning the Outstanding Cadet Award before being booted from the group for his racist activism. He was known on campus as the guy who wore his Nazi uniform while handing out hate literature."
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1455 » by knicksrbake » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:55 pm

CJackson wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:
CJackson wrote:
There are idiots everywhere. You have illiterates with too much testosterone across the political spectrum acting out these days. It is symptom of the social order not some kind of invalidation of any one candidate.

What is a fact is Trump is the ONLY candidate stoking the violence. Can you name any other candidate in 2016 who was courting the Nazi sympathizer vote? NO YOU CANT. Why did Trump not immediately distance himself from well known Nazi David Duke? Because he was playing the fence pulling in their votes that is why. So lets not pretend there is not Nazi themes going on here and that none of Trumps supporters have gotten physical too.

David Duke was a KKK member. Funny enough, Hillary was not only endorsed by the KKK, but she also received a donation of $20,000 from them. Maybe you should do some research.

Trump egged on the violence (jokingly) 6 months ago. You cannot find anything recent with him egging them on. The violence was only to ANTI-TRUMP PROTESTERS that were in his RALLIES. You don't see Trump supporters going into Hillary or Bernie rallies trying to cause trouble. You don't see Trump supporters sitting outside of Hillary or Bernie rallies trying to gang up on people for their beliefs.


Do some research? Go ahead and ask Clinton if they support David Duke. You think she would hem and haw? Trump waffled for a reason and you know why.

and he "Jokingly" egged on violence. Spin us some more cotton candy

Please find 10 clips of Trump supporters attacking non-supporters (one ding dong suggested he could earlier). I'll give you a hint: you can't. There are two or three clips, one of which is a black Trump supporter hitting a liberal dressed as a KKK member.

It's okay guys, we should strive to be like Western Europe, where the UK and Sweden are censoring social media posts on the Internet, and some people are even getting arrested for their posts. Nice!
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1456 » by Ray Williams » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:56 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:Leftism is a disease.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/violence-breaks-trump-rally-san-jose-protesters-hurl/story?id=39576437

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/marcusdipaola/status/738572899808743424[/tweet]

How brain dead on a scale from 1 to Kardashian do you have to be to persecute a group of people based on their political beliefs and accuse THEM of being nazis?


Kardashian equaling -10
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1457 » by knicksrbake » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:56 pm

CJackson wrote:And as far as the smug answer that David Duke was a Grand Wizard of the KKK and has no connections to Nazism maybe you should do some research yourself

http://www.nndb.com/people/210/000024138/

"At Louisiana State University he founded the White Youth Alliance. He was active in the school's ROTC program, winning the Outstanding Cadet Award before being booted from the group for his racist activism. He was known on campus as the guy who wore his Nazi uniform while handing out hate literature."

Well if you wear it, I guess you must be one. I'm going to throw on a shaolin monk garb and pretend I'm a Buddhist now. Oh wait, that's acceptable in our society, because we can identify as whatever we want to identify as. Actually, I'll identify as an attack helicoptor, I probably need my own bathroom as well. Thanks, Bernie!
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Post#1458 » by knicksrbake » Sat Jun 4, 2016 4:58 pm

Hillary used her position as Secretary of State to funnel money from the State Department into her own pockets. She's not corrupt though, Trump is.

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1459 » by CJackson » Sat Jun 4, 2016 5:02 pm

knicksrbake wrote:
CJackson wrote:And as far as the smug answer that David Duke was a Grand Wizard of the KKK and has no connections to Nazism maybe you should do some research yourself

http://www.nndb.com/people/210/000024138/

"At Louisiana State University he founded the White Youth Alliance. He was active in the school's ROTC program, winning the Outstanding Cadet Award before being booted from the group for his racist activism. He was known on campus as the guy who wore his Nazi uniform while handing out hate literature."

Well if you wear it, I guess you must be one. I'm going to throw on a shaolin monk garb and pretend I'm a Buddhist now. Oh wait, that's acceptable in our society, because we can identify as whatever we want to identify as. Actually, I'll identify as an attack helicoptor, I probably need my own bathroom as well. Thanks, Bernie!


WOW

So to you a Klansman who wears Nazi uniforms is not enough for you to admit he is a Nazi sympathizer

I will never read another post by you again. you are so incredibly stupid
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1460 » by Rasho Brezec » Sat Jun 4, 2016 5:03 pm

CJackson wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:Leftism is a disease.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/violence-breaks-trump-rally-san-jose-protesters-hurl/story?id=39576437

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/marcusdipaola/status/738572899808743424[/tweet]

How brain dead on a scale from 1 to Kardashian do you have to be to persecute a group of people based on their political beliefs and accuse THEM of being nazis?


There are idiots everywhere. You have illiterates with too much testosterone across the political spectrum acting out these days. It is symptom of the social order not some kind of invalidation of any one candidate.

What is a fact is Trump is the ONLY candidate stoking the violence. Can you name any other candidate in 2016 who was courting the Nazi sympathizer vote? NO YOU CANT. Why did Trump not immediately distance himself from well known Nazi David Duke? Because he was playing the fence pulling in their votes that is why. So lets not pretend there is not Nazi themes going on here and that none of Trumps supporters have gotten physical too.

The only Nazi sympathizers are the ones trying their damn hardest to deny others freely expressing their political beliefs.
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