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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1541 » by knicksrbake » Thu Jun 9, 2016 9:22 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:I recommend you don't engage. Trump has been sued for not renting to black people (twice), keeps Hitler's speeches on his nightstand and says racist things that members of his party acknowledge as racist. His attack on an American judge for being a Mexican-American is racist. He made disparaging remarks about a black accountant who worked for a Trump casino in AC along racial lines (while simultaneously being racist towards Jews). People even scream "white power" at his rallies and he won't disavow any of it.

This has all be pointed out a multitude of times to knicksrbake, but somehow, its all made up. I hate to break it to you (not really), but if none of this strikes you as racist, its because you are a racist.

Most of the other stuff is based on anecdotal evidence, but as for the La Raza judge (let's call him that, since that's the group he primarily identifies with), he certainly was biased. He's a member of a group that's for illegal immigration, and gives them millions in scholarships. This group is funded by George Soros (who is pro-Hillary) and the Obama administration. There is a blatant conflict of interest for this judge to be presiding over Trump's case.

A good read regarding this: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145560612726/the-robot-judge

Curiel looks human on the outside, and he has passed as human for decades. But Cooper made it clear in his interviews yesterday that while science understands that 100% of humans are biased about just about everything, this robot judge is not susceptible to being influenced by his life experiences. It sounds deeply implausible, but no one on CNN challenged Cooper’s implication that Judge Curiel is the only bias-free entity in the universe. Ergo, he must be a robot.


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1542 » by CharlesOakley » Thu Jun 9, 2016 10:06 pm

You literally believe everything your right-wing buddies send you on facebook. The judge is the member of California La Raza Lawyers Association. This is basically a very common networking group that exist in every state and for a bunch of different ethnicities. Your racist overlord is pretending he is a member of the National Council of La Raza, which is a completely different group to which the judge has no affiliation.

Confusing a local diversity Bar association with a politically driven advocacy group does not prove any kind of conspiracy. It only proves you are ready to swallow anything that helps you prove your point.

"The judge was appointed by Barack Obama," Trump told supporters during a lengthy San Diego speech on May 27, the day Curiel ordered the release of documents related to the Trump University lawsuit.

But Curiel's journey from prosecutor to the bench began long before President Barack Obama's nomination arrived in November 2011. Then-California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, appointed Curiel in 2006 to the state superior court, where he spent six years before ascending to the federal court.

Schwarzenegger affirmed his support for Curiel on Monday tweeting: "Judge Curiel is an American hero who stood up to the Mexican cartels. I was proud to appoint him when I was Gov."


In short, get a clue.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1543 » by CharlesOakley » Thu Jun 9, 2016 10:28 pm

Did the thought even cross your mind that Trump University is a scam?

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1544 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:32 am

CharlesOakley wrote:You literally believe everything your right-wing buddies send you on facebook. The judge is the member of California La Raza Lawyers Association. This is basically a very common networking group that exist in every state and for a bunch of different ethnicities. Your racist overlord is pretending he is a member of the National Council of La Raza, which is a completely different group to which the judge has no affiliation.

Confusing a local diversity Bar association with a politically driven advocacy group does not prove any kind of conspiracy. It only proves you are ready to swallow anything that helps you prove your point.

"The judge was appointed by Barack Obama," Trump told supporters during a lengthy San Diego speech on May 27, the day Curiel ordered the release of documents related to the Trump University lawsuit.

But Curiel's journey from prosecutor to the bench began long before President Barack Obama's nomination arrived in November 2011. Then-California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, appointed Curiel in 2006 to the state superior court, where he spent six years before ascending to the federal court.

Schwarzenegger affirmed his support for Curiel on Monday tweeting: "Judge Curiel is an American hero who stood up to the Mexican cartels. I was proud to appoint him when I was Gov."


In short, get a clue.

Yes, La Raza Lawyers of San Diego is not related of The National Council of La Raza. I suppose the KKK's California Chapter isn't related to the KKK.

Media: La Raza is in no way affiliated with La Raza!

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1546 » by CJackson » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:35 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
:lol: At Trump being the better option. Wow.

The less bad option. Don't let the media hysterics fool you. He's an arrogant show-off but at least he's not a mentally unstable psychopath. This is what her presidency would look like.

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I don't let the media hysterics fool me. I'm a pretty good judge of character and, on top of me thinking he's **** crazy, he has no idea what to do with foreign nations and his stances are bull.

You, and other pro Trump people, are free to believe what you want - I've said multiple times I don't like Hillary, but she's the better option IMO. Bloomberg would have been the best case scenario for republicans and democrats, though. Such a shame.


What a joke saying trump is the one who is NOT a mentally unstable psycopath. He is the very definition of mentally ill. He ticks off so many boxes on the DMSO personality disorder index it is amazing

but this comment is coming from the former soviet bloc member who will not tell us what country they reside in and claims to have a handle on american culture when they actually do not. their rationale is now distilled down like the other trump pumpers as a vote against social justice warriors, truly one of the lamest reasons to support any candidate. so being anti-PC is now a world view. thats deep man

it is purely a reactionary stance built on petty resentments and does not constitute an identifiable pov. voting for an emotionally unstable man unfit to hold political office just so you can wreck the system is the kind of childish logic that passes for a political viewpoint these days
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1547 » by CJackson » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:51 am

Capn'O wrote:
CJackson wrote:Citizens around the world feel that Clinton would have a more positive impact on specific issues including:
The world economy (Clinton 46% to Trump 14%);
Global peace and security (Clinton 54% to Trump 9%); and
Issues important to their country (Clinton 47% to Trump 12%).


Obviously Trump is off the charts unpopular worldwide, but these numbers should make it obvious that Hillary isn't that popular either. Her hawkish tendencies are among my chief concerns about her and globally it makes sense that there's a fair amount of global trepidation over her presidency.


Her consolation prize from Obama was the SoS job and it is one thing to identify her as having the mindset that could lead to intervention in the affairs of other countries but she and Obama inherited a mess left behind by George Bush. Those were the super hawks and basically you had a subsidiary of the worlds most mercenary military-industrial complex company in Halliburton residing in the white house in the person of dick cheney. They are the ones who opened the genies bottle in the middle east and left Obama holding the bag with Iraq and Afghanistan. Now Obama was way more hawkish than I figured he would be and she was his emissary. Under her husband's administration they actually failed to intervene in a country when they clearly could have and should have in Rwanda. And their indecision over Bosnia was a real exercise in feet dragging. Will there be more wars and interventions in the future? I am sure there will be

so as to how this relates to the global view of clinton is going to vary based on what country you are talking about. what may be bill's biggest accomplishment is getting lots of cheap meds into africa that saved maybe millions of lives from AIDs in particular. so asked someone in many African countries what they think of the Clintons and you will get a different answer than you get in palestine or sarajevo

but the rest of the world can see trump is out of his gourd and is so intellectually challenged and emotionally stunted that he purrs like a kitten when a genius psycopath like Putin praises trump. thats just smart to stroke the dumb bunny. trump is so completely driven by the attraction to personal praise and the aversion to criticism (or crushing if he has the power to do so as he clearly stated he would do). in foreign affairs he would be a train wreck socially and this has to scare people everywhere that trump will make decisions based on mood and his inept understanding of any motives more complex than a thumbs up or a scowl
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1548 » by CharlesOakley » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:48 am

knicksrbake wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:You literally believe everything your right-wing buddies send you on facebook. The judge is the member of California La Raza Lawyers Association. This is basically a very common networking group that exist in every state and for a bunch of different ethnicities. Your racist overlord is pretending he is a member of the National Council of La Raza, which is a completely different group to which the judge has no affiliation.

Confusing a local diversity Bar association with a politically driven advocacy group does not prove any kind of conspiracy. It only proves you are ready to swallow anything that helps you prove your point.

"The judge was appointed by Barack Obama," Trump told supporters during a lengthy San Diego speech on May 27, the day Curiel ordered the release of documents related to the Trump University lawsuit.

But Curiel's journey from prosecutor to the bench began long before President Barack Obama's nomination arrived in November 2011. Then-California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, appointed Curiel in 2006 to the state superior court, where he spent six years before ascending to the federal court.

Schwarzenegger affirmed his support for Curiel on Monday tweeting: "Judge Curiel is an American hero who stood up to the Mexican cartels. I was proud to appoint him when I was Gov."


In short, get a clue.

Yes, La Raza Lawyers of San Diego is not related of The National Council of La Raza. I suppose the KKK's California Chapter isn't related to the KKK.

Media: La Raza is in no way affiliated with La Raza!

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When my wife went to college in LA there was a student group for Latino students called La Raza. They did tons of terrorist activities like promote their culture and organize a Cinco De Mayo party. They must be affiliated with the National Council of La Raza too. The KKK is a fascist hate group. La Raza isn't the Mexican equivalent of the KKK. You need to learn about snopes or tin foil hats. http://www.snopes.com/judge-curiel-la-raza-kkk/

What you don't seem to get is Trump scammed a lot of people. Whether this judge is the grand wizard of the Mexican KKK does not change the fact that Trump ripped people off for a lot of money. He set up a fake university and made false promises in order to use high pressure sales techniques to extract as much money from his "buyers" as he could. Several of his own employees have said as much. His victims were mostly white people so you should be outraged.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1549 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:55 am

CharlesOakley wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:You literally believe everything your right-wing buddies send you on facebook. The judge is the member of California La Raza Lawyers Association. This is basically a very common networking group that exist in every state and for a bunch of different ethnicities. Your racist overlord is pretending he is a member of the National Council of La Raza, which is a completely different group to which the judge has no affiliation.

Confusing a local diversity Bar association with a politically driven advocacy group does not prove any kind of conspiracy. It only proves you are ready to swallow anything that helps you prove your point.



In short, get a clue.

Yes, La Raza Lawyers of San Diego is not related of The National Council of La Raza. I suppose the KKK's California Chapter isn't related to the KKK.

Media: La Raza is in no way affiliated with La Raza!

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When my wife went to college in LA there was a student group for Latino students called La Raza. They did tons of terrorist activities like promote their culture and organize a Cinco De Mayo party. They must be affiliated with the National Council of La Raza too. The KKK is a fascist hate group. La Raza isn't the Mexican equivalent of the KKK. You need to learn about snopes or tin foil hats. http://www.snopes.com/judge-curiel-la-raza-kkk/

What you don't seem to get is Trump scammed a lot of people. Whether this judge is the grand wizard of the Mexican KKK does not change the fact that Trump ripped people off for a lot of money. He set up a fake university and made false promises in order to use high pressure sales techniques to extract as much money from his "buyers" as he could. Several of his own employees have said as much. His victims were mostly white people so you should be outraged.

Did you even bother looking at the image? I don't know why I bother with you. There's a link to the National Council of La Raza on their damn website.

As for Trump University, it's not even a university. It's instead a seminar, and people get what they put into their endeavors (as they do in the real world). I don't care about what their color is, but apparently you do. Thanks for identifying who the racist is.

Fun fact: throwing around the word "fascist" doesn't make anything fascist. Fascism is a form of government in which corporations control the means of production, rather than the government, but the government wins from the profits. As it so happens, liberals have been throwing around the word fascism to mean "nationalism" and "authoritarianism," but neither of these are "fascism."

Fun fact 2: the KKK has long ties with the Democratic party.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1550 » by CJackson » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:10 am

this trump troll claimed he is a muslim

i dont believe them

I think they are just like that crow guy who lied about being a trained economist
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Post#1551 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:25 am

CJackson wrote:this trump troll claimed he is a muslim

i dont believe them

I think they are just like that crow guy who lied about being a trained economist

Dad is an Albanian Muslim immigrant, thanks.
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Post#1552 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:50 am

knicksrbake wrote:
CJackson wrote:this trump troll claimed he is a muslim

i dont believe them

I think they are just like that crow guy who lied about being a trained economist

Dad is an Albanian Muslim immigrant, thanks.


From what town?
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Post#1553 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:52 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:
CJackson wrote:this trump troll claimed he is a muslim

i dont believe them

I think they are just like that crow guy who lied about being a trained economist

Dad is an Albanian Muslim immigrant, thanks.


From what town?

He's from Struga in Macedonia.

One of my uncles is a professor and did a long history of our family line and said our ancestors were from Mati, up in the mountains in Albania.
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Post#1554 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:55 am

knicksrbake wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:Dad is an Albanian Muslim immigrant, thanks.


From what town?

He's from Struga in Macedonia.

One of my uncles is a professor and did a long history of our family line and said our ancestors were from Mat or Mati, up in the mountains in Albania.


Wow, great. My dad was born in Shkoder then grew up in Tirana. My mom's side of the family is from Berat.
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Post#1555 » by knicksrbake » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:03 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
From what town?

He's from Struga in Macedonia.

One of my uncles is a professor and did a long history of our family line and said our ancestors were from Mat or Mati, up in the mountains in Albania.


Wow, great. My dad was born in Shkoder then grew up in Tirana. My mom's side of the family is from Berat.

Damn, didn't know that there were other Albanians here. Pretty cool, haha. Things are real different in our culture, most Americans don't understand how important family and values are for us.
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Post#1556 » by NY2TheBay » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:21 am

Knicksrbake- I respect you fighting for what you think is right. People that really believe in something and are willing to fight (not arrogantly or violently but attempting to inform) I have respect for.

I am not a trump supporter and have voted dem many times and sit currently as a registered independent, as I have stated a few times on here. I attempt to see both sides as well as I can.

Hillary has a lot of dirt on her and you will not run out of stuff to post, I am sure of that. Trump's arrogance really irks me as I have a problem in general with people that I dont feel are grounded. I will stay away from the racist card here as that lawn has been mowed by media and presumably in this thread. Trump has swallowed up a lot of small businesses and has done some questionable things in the private sector while Hillary has morality and ethical issues in her closet.

This is a late post for me and I try to stay away from politics as I think it is all run from a higher order and none of these people should be idolized, imo. I would almost sit this out but I owe it to the war vets to vote, I have a lot of respect for the military.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1557 » by CJackson » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:33 pm

knicksrbake wrote:
CJackson wrote:this trump troll claimed he is a muslim

i dont believe them

I think they are just like that crow guy who lied about being a trained economist

Dad is an Albanian Muslim immigrant, thanks.


OK. At least you responded with something unlike that other guy.

what i am asking is less about where your family came from than ARE YOU A PRACTICING MUSLIM?

because I was doubting that you actually have any strong religious convictions tied to being a muslim and I could not see you praying to mecca 5 times a day and going on like you do

and while even republican officials admit trump is a racist you have gone on and on about how he is not and I find it really unlikely that a practicing muslim would speak like you do. you are clearly fanatical in your support of trump and without much nuance and it would take a fairly twisted person to be a practicing muslim and also hold your beliefs and convictions after the things Trump has said

so if you are telling the truth about your dad that is fine. i am glad you value your family
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Post#1558 » by will34 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:38 pm

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Post#1559 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:43 pm

knicksrbake wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
knicksrbake wrote:He's from Struga in Macedonia.

One of my uncles is a professor and did a long history of our family line and said our ancestors were from Mat or Mati, up in the mountains in Albania.


Wow, great. My dad was born in Shkoder then grew up in Tirana. My mom's side of the family is from Berat.

Damn, didn't know that there were other Albanians here. Pretty cool, haha. Things are real different in our culture, most Americans don't understand how important family and values are for us.


Very true. I just moved home to help take care of my mom (85) and dad (94).

There are a few more Albanians here. Stannis and Shemy - AND THEY'RE BROTHERS! :lol:
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