Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 4

Jasen777 · Post #541 » by **Jasen777** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:25 pm

Brooks is in the UFC, fighting Ross Pearson for some reason.

NZB2323 · Post #542 » by **NZB2323** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:35 pm

CPT wrote:http://mmajunkie.com/2016/06/donald-trump-floats-idea-of-dana-white-as-republican-national-convention-speaker

“Dana White, you know Dana White?” Mr. Trump asked the crowd. “U.F.C. Guy’s a champion. These are champions.”

“When we first bought this business, it was banned in most states, it wasn’t supported by the ACs, and no arenas wanted this thing,” White told TMZ. “Donald Trump was the first one to have us come out at the Trump Taj Mahal. Not only did we host the events there, he actually showed up and supported the events. You will never hear me say a negative thing about Donald Trump.”

Why am I not surprised?

You want to be the **** president? Then you'll have to **** campaign. You'll have to give some good **** speeches. You'll have to **** campaign. You'll have to **** interview. You want to be the **** Commander in Chief? Then you'll have to **** go for it.

Cammo101 · Post #543 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:20 pm

Jasen777 wrote:Brooks is in the UFC, fighting Ross Pearson for some reason.

Pearson lost his opponent and the UFC needed a fighter to fill in on short notice. He's as good a first fight as anyone else, I'm just happy Brooks is in the UFC finally.

phanman · Post #544 » by **phanman** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:26 pm

Headliner wrote:
"Hendo or bust. Michael Bisping wants Dan Henderson rematch or Georges St. Pierre superfight."

I said this right after Bisping won. I think the GSP fight is really a possibility now.

With Bisping coming off a win vs Silva, and then taking the title, it's a prime time to get the GSP rolling.
For GSP, it's a fantastic match up for him and could be enticing to get him back in the ring.

GSP Pros for wanting this fight:
- Bisping isn't a knockout artist.
- If he wins he becomes a two division champ (and could then vacate the title so as not to be held down for superfights)
- Could probably be an easy pay day where he doesn't take much damage.

Bisping Pros for wanting this fight:
- Biggest pay day of his career
- He beat Silva, beating GSP would give him one of the most impressive resumes for his legacy of any fighter...ever.
- GSP hasn't competed at 185, so he might not be as dominant at that weight,
- GSP is coming off a long lay off, and injury. It might be a great opportunity for Bisping to steal a W against a GOAT.

Personally, I really want to see this match up, and then if GSP wins, vacate the title and have Rockhold vs Weidman fight for the title, or create a small tournament for it.

All that said though, I can see it being the Hendo fight, with Hendo retiring afterward.
If he wins, vacate and have the Rockhold/Weidman fight or a tourny

They are also both tied for most wins in the UFC.. so theres that intrigue going there as well. To be honest I don't know why GSP wouldn't take the fight if offered to be honest. Out of all the MW guys, Bisping is probably the least dangerous one out of the Weidman/Rockhold/Jacare's despite his dominant KO over a cocky Rockhold. Two division champ has appeal as well since he'd only be the 3rd to do so.

I think I've heard some rumors of him being able to cut down to 155 also so imagine him getting through Bisping, vacating then taking on RDA/Alvarez..

Personally I think it comes down to either Hendo or GSP though, because Jacare won't sell and will probably also beat Bisping creating two unprofitable MW championship bouts. Rockhold vs Weidman 2 I think its all but a given at this point, with both fighters coming off losses.

REDDzone wrote:Bisping "I have never picked fights, I've never turned down any fight, I don't intend to start now" (paraphrase).

Then he goes on to talk about why he will not fight Rockhold next.
Then he goes on to talk about why he will not fight Weidman next.
Then he glosses over Jacare's resume and suggests old man Dan Henderson lol.

From the MMA hour he was just listing his preferences to Ariel. I never got the impression from him that he is ducking Rockhold or Weidman just understands the magnitude of getting a title shot and with both guys coming off losses he use that as a factor in fighting someone else - likewise with Jacare but out of the three of them imo Jacre deserves the shot the most.. he got robbed in that Romero fight.

The Henderson angle works from so many perspectives.. especially with Henderson becoming potentially the oldest champion ever, getting his first UFC belt, his final fight to ride off into the sunset, Bisping's revenge on one of the most brutal KO's ever and both fighters coming off the same card with dominant KO's.

Cammo101 · Post #545 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:33 pm

Bisping vs. Hendo just makes too much sense not to happen. Let Weidman and Rockhold fight on the same card for the #1 contender spot.

Nemesis21 · Post #546 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Bisping vs. Hendo just makes too much sense not to happen. Let Weidman and Rockhold fight on the same card for the #1 contender spot.

I believe Jacare should get the next title shot.

phanman · Post #547 » by **phanman** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:18 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Bisping vs. Hendo just makes too much sense not to happen. Let Weidman and Rockhold fight on the same card for the #1 contender spot.

I believe Jacare should get the next title shot.

based on merits yes.. but a majority of championship bouts are based off what sells.. and Jacare just doesn't lmao. There is a reason why we got Faber/Cruz 3 as opposed to say Cruz/Dillashaw 2 after such a close fight.

Cammo101 · Post #548 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:06 pm

phanman wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Bisping vs. Hendo just makes too much sense not to happen. Let Weidman and Rockhold fight on the same card for the #1 contender spot.

I believe Jacare should get the next title shot.

based on merits yes.. but a majority of championship bouts are based off what sells.. and Jacare just doesn't lmao. There is a reason why we got Faber/Cruz 3 as opposed to say Cruz/Dillashaw 2 after such a close fight.

The Hendo fight makes sense because MW is in a weird spot where no one really deserves a title shot all that much. I'm not going to cry for Jacare and his one fight winning streak not getting a shot just yet. Let him win another fight or two. I hate when money title fights hop the line over guys like Edgar who really deserve it. But, here, IMO there ins't anyone who's beating down the door to a title shot. So why not do a massive rematch with historic relevance?

phanman · Post #549 » by **phanman** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:52 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
phanman wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

I believe Jacare should get the next title shot.

based on merits yes.. but a majority of championship bouts are based off what sells.. and Jacare just doesn't lmao. There is a reason why we got Faber/Cruz 3 as opposed to say Cruz/Dillashaw 2 after such a close fight.

The Hendo fight makes sense because MW is in a weird spot where no one really deserves a title shot all that much. I'm not going to cry for Jacare and his one fight winning streak not getting a shot just yet. Let him win another fight or two. I hate when money title fights hop the line over guys like Edgar who really deserve it. But, here, IMO there ins't anyone who's beating down the door to a title shot. So why not do a massive rematch with historic relevance?

I get the angle for Hendo.. I really do I mean other than the GSP fight, that is the person I'd like to see Bisping face as I think its his easiest fight out of the 4, and him getting his revenge over Hendo on his first defense was would be a sight to behold.

Based on merits though, I'd still say that Rockhold is the most deserving for an immediate rematch. Even though he got ko'd within the first 3 minutes of the first round, he is the only one that holds victories over Bisping, Weidman, and Souza. Souza's resume is padded with filler names, and the only notable wins he has is over a post-TRT Belfort, gate-keeper Mousasi, and Brunson

My personal preferences goes --> GSP, Hendo, Rockhold, Weidman, Souza
Most deserving goes --> Rockhold, Souza, Weidman, Hendo

Hendo in no way, shape or form deserves the title shot though lmao. Ranked #13, only 3 wins in last 9 fights.. over the likes of unranked Lombard, Boetsch, and Shogun.

REDDzone · Post #550 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:27 am

phanman wrote:From the MMA hour he was just listing his preferences to Ariel. I never got the impression from him that he is ducking Rockhold or Weidman just understands the magnitude of getting a title shot and with both guys coming off losses he use that as a factor in fighting someone else - likewise with Jacare but out of the three of them imo Jacre deserves the shot the most.. he got robbed in that Romero fight.

Hm no he guaranteed that he would not be fighting Rockhold so obviously that is more than a preference.
He stated he wanted to fight Weidman next after Rockhold but has backed off that claim.
As I said he glossed over Jacare from what i've heard.

Not saying he is ducking in some cowardly way, by the way. I am not a fan but am objective enough to know that the dude will fight anyone.

Jasen777 · Post #551 » by **Jasen777** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:42 am

phanman wrote:Most deserving goes --> Rockhold, Souza, Weidman, Hendo

OTOH, Souza and Weidman not have a very recent first round loss to Bisping on their records. And I don't like instant rematches 99% of the time. But granting that the list is still more like...

Rockhold, Souza, Weidman, Romero, Kennedy, Mousasi, Whittaker, Branch, Manhoef, etc, Henderson

REDDzone · Post #552 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:08 am

Jacare is the only option that makes any sense. Both Rockhold and Weidman were both recently KOed. Granted my perception may be skewed because I thought Jacare beat Roidmero.

cowboyronnie · Post #553 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:28 am

Hendo plz. Bisping is barely top 10 either, Hendo makes perfect sense.

REDDzone · Post #554 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:43 am

Hendo is more fit to to fight Tito in bellator than for a ufc belt at this point. Take away his win over a steroid free Lombard and he has only beaten an old Shogun and the worst fighter in the ufc Tim Boetsch since 2011.

cowboyronnie · Post #555 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:47 am

You leave Boetsch alone. Those JKD front-kicks against that guy like 8 years ago and those uppercuts against Okami are some of the single most beautiful strikes ever thrown in the octagon. He moves beautifully, he's beautiful.

REDDzone · Post #556 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:56 am

LOL those uppercuts were pretty f*ckin legit.

Cammo101 · Post #557 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:18 am

REDDzone wrote:Hendo is more fit to to fight Tito in bellator than for a ufc belt at this point. Take away his win over a steroid free Lombard and he has only beaten an old Shogun and the worst fighter in the ufc Tim Boetsch since 2011.

Who cares if Henderson doesn't deserve the title fight? Plenty of guys from Nick Diaz to Chael Sonnen to Urijah Faber haven't deserved a title shot and got one anyways. And some of those guys got it over guys who were long overdue for a shot. There is no one at MW deserving, so make the Hendo fight. It sells the most PPVs, gives an all time great one last shot at a belt, and is a rematch of an all time great grudge match. If Hendo wins, the best UFC fighter to never earn a belt finally gets one. If he loses, Bisping avenges his worst loss ever. Either way, great for the UFC.

And in the time that is happening, the rest of the division can sort itself out. If any legend deserves one more shot at the belt, it's Hendo. Guys have been getting undeserved title shots since Couture fought Sylvia. It's nothing new and has given us some amazing moments. Is anyone on Earth really clamoring for a Bisping vs. Jacare title fight? That will make a Joanna fight look marketable.

cowboyronnie · Post #558 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:38 am

REDDzone wrote:LOL those uppercuts were pretty f*ckin legit.

He punches all the way across Okami's chest, under both arms!!!

Cammo101 · Post #559 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:50 am

cowboyronnie wrote:
REDDzone wrote:LOL those uppercuts were pretty f*ckin legit.

He punches all the way across Okami's chest, under both arms!!!

Somewhere Joe Rogan is screaming uncontrollably at the mere thought of this.

REDDzone · Post #560 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:31 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Who cares if Henderson doesn't deserve the title fight? Plenty of guys from Nick Diaz to Chael Sonnen to Urijah Faber haven't deserved a title shot and got one anyways. And some of those guys got it over guys who were long overdue for a shot. There is no one at MW deserving, so make the Hendo fight. It sells the most PPVs, gives an all time great one last shot at a belt, and is a rematch of an all time great grudge match. If Hendo wins, the best UFC fighter to never earn a belt finally gets one. If he loses, Bisping avenges his worst loss ever. Either way, great for the UFC.

Well first off, multiple wrongs don't make it right. And secondly, its not like this is a Condit situation where Hendo has looked great, lost a fight or two, got a big win, then got a shot. Hendo hasn't been competitive with good fighters for a long, long time. Even guys who aren't top 5 like Mousasi swatted him like a fly. If anything it would be doing him a disservice to let Bisping box him up at this point, because we see what the true result is when they fight in their primes.

And in the time that is happening, the rest of the division can sort itself out. If any legend deserves one more shot at the belt, it's Hendo. Guys have been getting undeserved title shots since Couture fought Sylvia. It's nothing new and has given us some amazing moments. Is anyone on Earth really clamoring for a Bisping vs. Jacare title fight? That will make a Joanna fight look marketable.

Lol wtf are you trying to paint Jacare as some boring fighter here? Is it because he doesn't JUST bang with bros? Because hell he actually does do a decent amount of that for a guy who can submit pretty much anyone.