Random Rumor Thread: Post em here

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I feel like there are so many Boston rumors and none of them will be close to right.

BOS has to have the record for rumors to trades ratio. They leading the rumor mill season after season.

[Run PDX]

With the free agency bonanza coming up, it is entirely possible that teams are going to try to create space on draft night through lopsided deals. A team with cap space, future picks, and maybe a prospect or two might be able to come out of the draft with a pick this year and a proven starter.

[Texas Chuck]

I feel like there are so many Boston rumors and none of them will be close to right.

BOS has to have the record for rumors to trades ratio. They leading the rumor mill season after season.

Boston has tons of assets, tons of cap space, and a GM known to be willing to make moves. It's pretty logical for them to be at the center of lots of discussion.

[machu46]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
The Celtics have been trying to package #3 and another player/players for a legitimate starter. Teams have not been interested.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Teams keep referencing the cap as an obstacle w/ trades. "Why do I want to trade a $7m player knowing it will cost me $14m to replace him?"

[Pillendreher]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
The Celtics have been trying to package #3 and another player/players for a legitimate starter. Teams have not been interested.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Teams keep referencing the cap as an obstacle w/ trades. "Why do I want to trade a $7m player knowing it will cost me $14m to replace him?"

The cap jump is really messing with teams right now. You don't even know what's a good contract anymore.

[Texas Chuck]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
The Celtics have been trying to package #3 and another player/players for a legitimate starter. Teams have not been interested.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Teams keep referencing the cap as an obstacle w/ trades. "Why do I want to trade a $7m player knowing it will cost me $14m to replace him?"

The cap jump is really messing with teams right now. You don't even know what's a good contract anymore.

Ryan Russillo can't even follow his own logic trail....

1. Nobody wants any of the Celtic players
2. GM's don't want to trade $7M players
3. Boston's 3 best players all make around $7M

Seems like if his last tweet is true--and I think there is a lot of truth to it, then #3 plus one or more of Crowder, Bradley, Thomas would be a very attractive package. This reads like someone with an ax to grind against Ainge or the Celtics aren't yet making their best offer--as they shouldn't.

[Andre Roberstan]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Yup. I still think Ainge gets someone, but a lot of Boston egg avatars are going to scream their heads off on Twitter for the price he'll pay.

Or maybe I'm completely off base and he pulls something ridiculous off.

[machu46]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
The Celtics have been trying to package #3 and another player/players for a legitimate starter. Teams have not been interested.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Teams keep referencing the cap as an obstacle w/ trades. "Why do I want to trade a $7m player knowing it will cost me $14m to replace him?"

The cap jump is really messing with teams right now. You don't even know what's a good contract anymore.

Ryan Russillo can't even follow his own logic trail....

1. Nobody wants any of the Celtic players
2. GM's don't want to trade $7M players
3. Boston's 3 best players all make around $7M

Seems like if his last tweet is true--and I think there is a lot of truth to it, then #3 plus one or more of Crowder, Bradley, Thomas would be a very attractive package. This reads like someone with an ax to grind against Ainge or the Celtics aren't yet making their best offer--as they shouldn't.

I connected those dots too, but I simply don't think you're getting Butler or Middleton for some role players on good contracts and a pick that doesn't get you Simmons or Ingram. I'd be surprised if they can't use guys like Crowder or Bradley for more marginal upgrades, but Middleton and Butler are aiming too high IMO.

[JasonStern]

Report: Cavaliers interested in signing LeBron James to long-term contract
https://medium.com/sportspickle/report-cavaliers-interested-in-signing-lebron-james-to-long-term-contract-5edc7610361d#.mpy03fllk

[Andre Roberstan]

Seems like if his last tweet is true--and I think there is a lot of truth to it, then #3 plus one or more of Crowder, Bradley, Thomas would be a very attractive package. This reads like someone with an ax to grind against Ainge or the Celtics aren't yet making their best offer--as they shouldn't.

Yeah, I'd tend towards the latter. Bradley, Crowder and Thomas are all good players, but I highly doubt Ainge makes them available until someone puts him over a barrel.

[Texas Chuck]

Report: Cavaliers interested in signing LeBron James to long-term contract
https://medium.com/sportspickle/report-cavaliers-interested-in-signing-lebron-james-to-long-term-contract-5edc7610361d#.mpy03fllk

you don't say....

My guess is that Lebron is still going to take a 1+1 again and will keep doing so until he shows some decline or the over 35 rule comes into play. No reason at all for him to give up any leverage by signing for multiple years at this point and with his outside revenue streams he doesn't need to worry about injury risk.

[jbent87]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Yup. I still think Ainge gets someone, but a lot of Boston egg avatars are going to scream their heads off on Twitter for the price he'll pay.

Or maybe I'm completely off base and he pulls something ridiculous off.

every GM in this league knows 4 quarters dont equal a dollar, including Danny Ainge. But he has a lot of quarters. I kind of expect to hear after the draft an offer he made to the Sixers for #1 to come out including most of those picks and Smart/Jae Crowder. But again, keep your quarters.

[Smitty731]

It is no suprise the Celtics, Nuggets and Timberwolves are shopping their picks hard. Boston and Denver has extra picks and Minnesota is stocked with young guys.

This latest round of Middleton to Boston rumors is getting me unnecessarily excited, because there is no chance it would happen.

I'd link the tweets to the Middleton stuff, but it is all over Twitter.

[Smitty731]

Report: Cavaliers interested in signing LeBron James to long-term contract
https://medium.com/sportspickle/report-cavaliers-interested-in-signing-lebron-james-to-long-term-contract-5edc7610361d#.mpy03fllk

In other news: water is wet!

And Chuck is right. He has no reason to do anything but 1+1 deals. That way he always has leverage.

[Texas Chuck]

This latest round of Middleton to Boston rumors is getting me unnecessarily excited, because there is no chance it would happen.

That's exactly how I'd feel as a Boston fan.

[Pillendreher]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
The Celtics have been trying to package #3 and another player/players for a legitimate starter. Teams have not been interested.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Teams keep referencing the cap as an obstacle w/ trades. "Why do I want to trade a $7m player knowing it will cost me $14m to replace him?"

The cap jump is really messing with teams right now. You don't even know what's a good contract anymore.

Ryan Russillo can't even follow his own logic trail....

1. Nobody wants any of the Celtic players
2. GM's don't want to trade $7M players
3. Boston's 3 best players all make around $7M

Seems like if his last tweet is true--and I think there is a lot of truth to it, then #3 plus one or more of Crowder, Bradley, Thomas would be a very attractive package. This reads like someone with an ax to grind against Ainge or the Celtics aren't yet making their best offer--as they shouldn't.

I think the point he's making is that cheap contracts now are more valuable than ever and that Ainge is trying to keep his core intact while shopping his other guys and that won't work because nobody is willing to give up a starter on a nice contract for roleplayers that don't help you all that much.

[winter_mute_13]

Seems like if his last tweet is true--and I think there is a lot of truth to it, then #3 plus one or more of Crowder, Bradley, Thomas would be a very attractive package. This reads like someone with an ax to grind against Ainge or the Celtics aren't yet making their best offer--as they shouldn't.

I think the implication is that none of Crowder, Bradley, or Thomas are being offered. The 2nd tweet says that #3 + players isn't enough for a legit starter - but those 3 guys are legit starters already so it wouldn't make sense for Ainge to offer them + pick.

My takeaway is that this year, #3 + filler isn't enough for a starter level player. Pretty curious because you'd think a cost-controlled guy drafted at #3 would be a nice bargain in the hypercap era, but maybe the draft is just really bad this year.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Not saying it's impossible but sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
The Celtics have been trying to package #3 and another player/players for a legitimate starter. Teams have not been interested.

Russillo ‏@ryenarussillo 3h3 hours ago
Teams keep referencing the cap as an obstacle w/ trades. "Why do I want to trade a $7m player knowing it will cost me $14m to replace him?"

The cap jump is really messing with teams right now. You don't even know what's a good contract anymore.

Ryan Russillo can't even follow his own logic trail....

1. Nobody wants any of the Celtic players
2. GM's don't want to trade $7M players
3. Boston's 3 best players all make around $7M

Seems like if his last tweet is true--and I think there is a lot of truth to it, then #3 plus one or more of Crowder, Bradley, Thomas would be a very attractive package. This reads like someone with an ax to grind against Ainge or the Celtics aren't yet making their best offer--as they shouldn't.

To be fair, part of his logic trail is a quote. I don't think its quite contradictory. Gives a reason while their is a value gap between BOS and other teams. Ainge is valuing his 7 million players with their replacement cost in mind while other teams aren't worried about his replacement cost.

What a took from it is that Ainge wants to trade 3 and current players, other GMs don't argree with Ainge value of Thomas, Crowder , Bradley in a star deal and likely want 3 and future picks instead. Hence, unlikely to get a deal done.

[Drax]

I feel like there are so many Boston rumors and none of them will be close to right.

BOS has to have the record for rumors to trades ratio. They leading the rumor mill season after season.

Funny though, almost in no trade Ainge has done in the past few seasons it was reported days earlier. Lots of talk but noone has actually a serious idea what he is doing. Don't belive Boston media people, they have no clue.

[buckboy]

It is no suprise the Celtics, Nuggets and Timberwolves are shopping their picks hard. Boston and Denver has extra picks and Minnesota is stocked with young guys.

This latest round of Middleton to Boston rumors is getting me unnecessarily excited, because there is no chance it would happen.

I'd link the tweets to the Middleton stuff, but it is all over Twitter.

3/Bradley/17 Nets swap.

And I still don't think I'd do it, but that'd be the minimum for me personally.