Derrick Rose to NY

[Mr_Perfect]

C: Noah (hopefully), O'quin, Willy (a little bit of KP)
PF: KP, Melo
SF: Melo, L.thomas
SG: ???, Holiday
PG: Rose, Galloway

Free flow offense with a drizzle of triangle sets when the game slows down. I've said that last year knicks would enter the playoffs, gonna say the same thing now. **** stubborn coaches are gone.

Try to get dwill back then get a servicable sg. Get a good start next season like 5-0.

Bazemore Meeks Korver


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No, no and no.

[DowNY]

Did Rose or Melo make the playoffs last year? In 2011 they would've been a good team. It's about to be 2017.

melo was stuck with garbage, you saw his new level of play. rose was dealing with others getting injured, remember? noah,even butler at a point.

And we still have garbage outside of KP. Rose is awful now. Why do you think they traded him? What you think he's gonna magically get better as he gets older? Well then I got a bridge to sell you.

Rose is 27 not 34 (Calderon).
Our PG produced an average of like 4.6 points per game all season.
Still managed a semi-decent team record for the garbage Melo had.

An improved KP & a major upgrade from Calderon will do a lot.
We didn't even use our cap yet (we we will get an upgrade from Robin Lopez) & you're being that good ol' pessimistic Sark.You & Mr. Perfect should start y'all own negative, "realistic" , pessimistic group. Something to combat team Hoodwinked

[DowNY]

The backcourt would probably be called "Injury prone University" but I think giving Eric Gordon a 1 year prove it deal would be worth the shot. It would be cheaper than most & we can still get a Center.
Hell, we can offer Whiteside the max & still offer Gordon a $10M 1 yr deal. Keeps flexibility for next year's cap also.

[Rock Bottom]

i see it as Rose is better than calderon/grant And,

we wint have to see the ball dumped into lopez 1000 times for him to dribble twice and the hook blindly to the left or pass out to melo for three from top by coaches area so im happy

[Sark]

melo was stuck with garbage, you saw his new level of play. rose was dealing with others getting injured, remember? noah,even butler at a point.

And we still have garbage outside of KP. Rose is awful now. Why do you think they traded him? What you think he's gonna magically get better as he gets older? Well then I got a bridge to sell you.

Rose is 27 not 34 (Calderon).
Our PG produced an average of like 4.6 points per game all season.
Still managed a semi-decent team record for the garbage Melo had.

An improved KP & a major upgrade from Calderon will do a lot.
We didn't even use our cap yet (we we will get an upgrade from Robin Lopez) & you're being that good ol' pessimistic Sark.
You & Mr. Perfect should start y'all own negative, "realistic" , pessimistic group. Something to combat team Hoodwinked

He's also 3 knee injuries away from when he was good. Chicago gave up on him for a reason. You think he's gonna be ok with being a third option as well?

Of course he will be better than Calderon, but that's not saying much. We'll be 29th in backcourt play instead of 30th.

[DowNY]

And we still have garbage outside of KP. Rose is awful now. Why do you think they traded him? What you think he's gonna magically get better as he gets older? Well then I got a bridge to sell you.

Rose is 27 not 34 (Calderon).
Our PG produced an average of like 4.6 points per game all season.
Still managed a semi-decent team record for the garbage Melo had.

An improved KP & a major upgrade from Calderon will do a lot.
We didn't even use our cap yet (we we will get an upgrade from Robin Lopez) & you're being that good ol' pessimistic Sark.
You & Mr. Perfect should start y'all own negative, "realistic" , pessimistic group. Something to combat team Hoodwinked

He's also 3 knee injuries away from when he was good. Chicago gave up on him for a reason. You think he's gonna be ok with being a third option as well?

Of course he will be better than Calderon, but that's not saying much. We'll be 29th in backcourt play instead of 30th.

29th instead of 30th?
Really? You think Rose is that bad huh? You seen any of his games from last season? Especially after March?
Lol you got it Sark.

[Sark]

Rose is 27 not 34 (Calderon).
Our PG produced an average of like 4.6 points per game all season.
Still managed a semi-decent team record for the garbage Melo had.

An improved KP & a major upgrade from Calderon will do a lot.
We didn't even use our cap yet (we we will get an upgrade from Robin Lopez) & you're being that good ol' pessimistic Sark.
You & Mr. Perfect should start y'all own negative, "realistic" , pessimistic group. Something to combat team Hoodwinked

He's also 3 knee injuries away from when he was good. Chicago gave up on him for a reason. You think he's gonna be ok with being a third option as well?

Of course he will be better than Calderon, but that's not saying much. We'll be 29th in backcourt play instead of 30th.

29th instead of 30th?
Really? You think Rose is that bad huh? You seen any of his games from last season? Especially after March?
Lol you got it Sark.

Derrick Rose was 81st in RPM last year out of 85 pgs in the NBA last year. That is GOD awful. He's not the same player he once was.

Didn't we make a bet that Conley and Durant aren't coming here?

[DowNY]

He's also 3 knee injuries away from when he was good. Chicago gave up on him for a reason. You think he's gonna be ok with being a third option as well?

Of course he will be better than Calderon, but that's not saying much. We'll be 29th in backcourt play instead of 30th.

29th instead of 30th?
Really? You think Rose is that bad huh? You seen any of his games from last season? Especially after March?
Lol you got it Sark.

Derrick Rose was 81st in RPM last year out of 85 pgs in the NBA last year. That is GOD awful. He's not the same player he once was.

Didn't we make a bet that Conley and Durant aren't coming here?

Look at the game with your eyes, not with RPM & all those other stats.
& no, we didn't but I did say we were getting either Conley or KD. Conley is obviously out the equation & I'm happy about that.
KD is still possible.
You don't think so. So be it.

[Capn'O]

Really liking this move more and more. Rose is a real dude. Hope this all works out...as long as everyone can stay healthy we might be able to make some noise

That's basically it. Rose needs to continue towards health and the other two can't descend. Rose's health determines whether it was a good trade or a bad one. It's an aight risk.

[Adelheid]

Rose is crap with those stats mentioned but we gained him by trading a guard who is also one of the worst in the league and a center that does well defensively but not exactly mobile and not the passing type either. We got relieved of Lopez's ongoing salary and we would gain massive cap space next season so it aint bad I guess. If Rose plays really well with the 2016 lineup and make the playoffs that would help with the recruiting effort next season whether he resigns or not. The old man must be tired of his rebuilding plans.

[Bklyn&company]

I like Noah, but there are others better for the money... get P.Gasol and Nic Batum on 1×1 deals and we are going to the Eastern Confer. Championship game...

[NY2TheBay]

29th instead of 30th?
Really? You think Rose is that bad huh? You seen any of his games from last season? Especially after March?
Lol you got it Sark.

Derrick Rose was 81st in RPM last year out of 85 pgs in the NBA last year. That is GOD awful. He's not the same player he once was.

Didn't we make a bet that Conley and Durant aren't coming here?

Look at the game with your eyes, not with RPM & all those other stats.
& no, we didn't but I did say we were getting either Conley or KD. Conley is obviously out the equation & I'm happy about that.
KD is still possible.
You don't think so. So be it.

I get that people want to look at the stats. But you can't be blinded by them. Put the calculator to the side and go watch the recent tape on him, he still has explosiveness.

Im not going to sit here and tell you he is the same MVP type player, but he is a player that needed to get through an entire NBA season healthy and this is his first real offseason since his run of injuries.

Give me Rose, keep conley away on his long term bloated contract and put the calculator down. Im not losing sleep over jerian grant and robin lopez. You have to take chances; this is a risk but one I understand and excited about.

[Swarles Xavier]

Get Deng & Noah.

Rose
Deng
Melo
KP
Noah

Deng will be cheaper than Batum and the other young wings available. The ultimate 2011 bulls reunion with way better offensive talent. Rose, Deng & Noah may have declined but they are still really good veterans who know how to play.

[nykfan42]

When did D-Rose drop F-bombs? Either my tv volume sucks or MSG edited it out. I know I watched it live tho at 4 and didn't hear it.

[Sark]

Derrick Rose was 81st in RPM last year out of 85 pgs in the NBA last year. That is GOD awful. He's not the same player he once was.

Didn't we make a bet that Conley and Durant aren't coming here?

Look at the game with your eyes, not with RPM & all those other stats.
& no, we didn't but I did say we were getting either Conley or KD. Conley is obviously out the equation & I'm happy about that.
KD is still possible.
You don't think so. So be it.

I get that people want to look at the stats. But you can't be blinded by them. Put the calculator to the side and go watch the recent tape on him, he still has explosiveness.

Im not going to sit here and tell you he is the same MVP type player, but he is a player that needed to get through an entire NBA season healthy and this is his first real offseason since his run of injuries.

Give me Rose, keep conley away on his long term bloated contract and put the calculator down. Im not losing sleep over jerian grant and robin lopez. You have to take chances; this is a risk but one I understand and excited about.

You also can't completely ignore them either. I mean there has to a reason that 28 other teams didn't want him.

Yea he's an upgrade over Calderon, but let's not put the champagne on ice just yet. And yes, I'd prefer to take the chance on Rose than give Conley an awful contract.

[DowNY]

Look at the game with your eyes, not with RPM & all those other stats.
& no, we didn't but I did say we were getting either Conley or KD. Conley is obviously out the equation & I'm happy about that.
KD is still possible.
You don't think so. So be it.

I get that people want to look at the stats. But you can't be blinded by them. Put the calculator to the side and go watch the recent tape on him, he still has explosiveness.

Im not going to sit here and tell you he is the same MVP type player, but he is a player that needed to get through an entire NBA season healthy and this is his first real offseason since his run of injuries.

Give me Rose, keep conley away on his long term bloated contract and put the calculator down. Im not losing sleep over jerian grant and robin lopez. You have to take chances; this is a risk but one I understand and excited about.

You also can't completely ignore them either. I mean there has to a reason that 28 other teams didn't want him.

Yea he's an upgrade over Calderon, but let's not put the champagne on ice just yet. And yes, I'd prefer to take the chance on Rose than give Conley an awful contract.

Rose is a risk. A risk worth it. We don't know how many teams inquired & what their offers were. I doubt we were the only ones. We probably were just giving them the best offer out of everybody else.
I mean look around the league, almost every team has a PG position taken care of. Why would they risk benching their current PG for a risk on a 1 year rental?
Again, you're thinking too hard about it.

Last year, you killed Phil for signing D-Will. I said give it a chance & you didn't want to. Ultimately he finished somewhere between the middle of garbage like you thought & pretty useful off the bench like I hoped. You can't just crap on something out the gate with no hard evidence. If you want to talk about "what have you done for me lately" about Rose, then he has been healthy & shot over 50% since March. Take that FWIW.

[Sark]

I get that people want to look at the stats. But you can't be blinded by them. Put the calculator to the side and go watch the recent tape on him, he still has explosiveness.

Im not going to sit here and tell you he is the same MVP type player, but he is a player that needed to get through an entire NBA season healthy and this is his first real offseason since his run of injuries.

Give me Rose, keep conley away on his long term bloated contract and put the calculator down. Im not losing sleep over jerian grant and robin lopez. You have to take chances; this is a risk but one I understand and excited about.

You also can't completely ignore them either. I mean there has to a reason that 28 other teams didn't want him.

Yea he's an upgrade over Calderon, but let's not put the champagne on ice just yet. And yes, I'd prefer to take the chance on Rose than give Conley an awful contract.

Rose is a risk. A risk worth it. We don't know how many teams inquired & what their offers were. I doubt we were the only ones. We probably were just giving them the best offer out of everybody else.
I mean look around the league, almost every team has a PG position taken care of. Why would they risk benching their current PG for a risk on a 1 year rental?
Again, you're thinking too hard about it.

Last year, you killed Phil for signing D-Will. I said give it a chance & you didn't want to. Ultimately he finished somewhere between the middle of garbage like you thought & pretty useful off the bench like I hoped. You can't just crap on something out the gate with no hard evidence. If you want to talk about "what have you done for me lately" about Rose, then he has been healthy & shot over 50% since March. Take that FWIW.

You're thinking of someone else. I liked the D-Will signing. He is young and cheap. That's how I like em.

[Zooropa]

29th instead of 30th?
Really? You think Rose is that bad huh? You seen any of his games from last season? Especially after March?
Lol you got it Sark.

Derrick Rose was 81st in RPM last year out of 85 pgs in the NBA last year. That is GOD awful. He's not the same player he once was.

Didn't we make a bet that Conley and Durant aren't coming here?

Look at the game with your eyes, not with RPM & all those other stats.
& no, we didn't but I did say we were getting either Conley or KD. Conley is obviously out the equation & I'm happy about that.
KD is still possible.
You don't think so. So be it.

I watch the game with my eyes, and my eyes told me that the Bulls were a better team without him running the show last year.

[NY2TheBay]

Look at the game with your eyes, not with RPM & all those other stats.
& no, we didn't but I did say we were getting either Conley or KD. Conley is obviously out the equation & I'm happy about that.
KD is still possible.
You don't think so. So be it.

I get that people want to look at the stats. But you can't be blinded by them. Put the calculator to the side and go watch the recent tape on him, he still has explosiveness.

Im not going to sit here and tell you he is the same MVP type player, but he is a player that needed to get through an entire NBA season healthy and this is his first real offseason since his run of injuries.

Give me Rose, keep conley away on his long term bloated contract and put the calculator down. Im not losing sleep over jerian grant and robin lopez. You have to take chances; this is a risk but one I understand and excited about.

You also can't completely ignore them either. I mean there has to a reason that 28 other teams didn't want him.

Yea he's an upgrade over Calderon, but let's not put the champagne on ice just yet. And yes, I'd prefer to take the chance on Rose than give Conley an awful contract.

Stats are important, you just cant be blinded by them. Rose's situation is unique.

It was a worthy gamble. Jackson is paid BIG money to make calculated risks. Lets not act like the knicks were going anywhere, melo sure wasnt.

[DowNY]

You also can't completely ignore them either. I mean there has to a reason that 28 other teams didn't want him.

Yea he's an upgrade over Calderon, but let's not put the champagne on ice just yet. And yes, I'd prefer to take the chance on Rose than give Conley an awful contract.

Rose is a risk. A risk worth it. We don't know how many teams inquired & what their offers were. I doubt we were the only ones. We probably were just giving them the best offer out of everybody else.
I mean look around the league, almost every team has a PG position taken care of. Why would they risk benching their current PG for a risk on a 1 year rental?
Again, you're thinking too hard about it.

Last year, you killed Phil for signing D-Will. I said give it a chance & you didn't want to. Ultimately he finished somewhere between the middle of garbage like you thought & pretty useful off the bench like I hoped. You can't just crap on something out the gate with no hard evidence. If you want to talk about "what have you done for me lately" about Rose, then he has been healthy & shot over 50% since March. Take that FWIW.

You're thinking of someone else. I liked the D-Will signing. He is young and cheap. That's how I like em.

Lol you might be right. My bad