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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#861 » by KGboss » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:21 pm

Howard is on sirius nba radio right now talking to jason terry. Saying all the right things but also said that his agent set up the meetings with the hawks and celtics and he hasnt talked to him about it yet. Probably just doesnt want to share his mindset but this is what was said.
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#862 » by galipeautim » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:06 am

Danny may just be using Dwight Howard to reinforce that big name free agents are thinking about Boston. Hearing Boston's name in both the Durant conversations and the Howard conversation is great for Boston in wooing ofher free agents. I just hope DA doesn't actually plan on signing Howard because it will take a minimum of three years at the max and I'm thinking more like four with how much salary cap space is spread around the league.
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#863 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:10 am

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BakersDozen wrote:Mannix said he thinks he will stay with the hawks


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My thoughts have always been why would Horford jump to a team he already beat in round 1. The Hawks are closer to a title than Boston. Hawks can offer more money. They might be able to sign a C level free agent if they refuse to overpay Turner.


Well they just traded there all star pg for a guy who probably wont contribute much next year.


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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#864 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:12 am

KGboss wrote:Howard is on sirius nba radio right now talking to jason terry. Saying all the right things but also said that his agent set up the meetings with the hawks and celtics and he hasnt talked to him about it yet. Probably just doesnt want to share his mindset but this is what was said.


In reality the chances of a top free agent coming here is non existent. It slightly goes up once they get a star. Will never be a top destination. The best you can hope for is to be mentioned in the same breath as a place like Chicago. All things equal the Knicks Lakers and Heat will always trump the Celtics in regards to market. Perhaps Brooklyn too in a few years once they get back on track.
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#865 » by galipeautim » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:22 am

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KGboss wrote:Howard is on sirius nba radio right now talking to jason terry. Saying all the right things but also said that his agent set up the meetings with the hawks and celtics and he hasnt talked to him about it yet. Probably just doesnt want to share his mindset but this is what was said.


In reality the chances of a top free agent coming here is non existent. It slightly goes up once they get a star. Will never be a top destination. The best you can hope for is to be mentioned in the same breath as a place like Chicago. All things equal the Knicks Lakers and Heat will always trump the Celtics in regards to market. Perhaps Brooklyn too in a few years once they get back on track.


I agree with you in part, but not that the Celtics chances are non existent. Our thoughts are skewed bacuase the Celtics mismanaged the cap for so many years and didn't have the ability to go after top flight free agents. This is basically the first example since Bird where we had a good team and cap space. Also, stars like being the #1 option and being on a good team. This is one of the few spots they can do that.
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#866 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:29 am

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KGboss wrote:Howard is on sirius nba radio right now talking to jason terry. Saying all the right things but also said that his agent set up the meetings with the hawks and celtics and he hasnt talked to him about it yet. Probably just doesnt want to share his mindset but this is what was said.


In reality the chances of a top free agent coming here is non existent. It slightly goes up once they get a star. Will never be a top destination. The best you can hope for is to be mentioned in the same breath as a place like Chicago. All things equal the Knicks Lakers and Heat will always trump the Celtics in regards to market. Perhaps Brooklyn too in a few years once they get back on track.


I agree with you in part, but not that the Celtics chances are non existent. Our thoughts are skewed bacuase the Celtics mismanaged the cap for so many years and didn't have the ability to go after top flight free agents. This is basically the first example since Bird where we had a good team and cap space. Also, stars like being the #1 option and being on a good team. This is one of the few spots they can do that.


Then you still have Lakers Heat and a few other destination cities that rank higher than Boston that can give someone the ability to be that #1. Any way you look at it without a real star on this team it's impossible to get any A level FAs and most B Level ones to commit.
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#867 » by galipeautim » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:34 am

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In reality the chances of a top free agent coming here is non existent. It slightly goes up once they get a star. Will never be a top destination. The best you can hope for is to be mentioned in the same breath as a place like Chicago. All things equal the Knicks Lakers and Heat will always trump the Celtics in regards to market. Perhaps Brooklyn too in a few years once they get back on track.


I agree with you in part, but not that the Celtics chances are non existent. Our thoughts are skewed bacuase the Celtics mismanaged the cap for so many years and didn't have the ability to go after top flight free agents. This is basically the first example since Bird where we had a good team and cap space. Also, stars like being the #1 option and being on a good team. This is one of the few spots they can do that.


Then you still have Lakers Heat and a few other destination cities that rank higher than Boston that can give someone the ability to be that #1. Any way you look at it without a real star on this team it's impossible to get any A level FAs and most B Level ones to commit.


Again I agree with you in part. It has nothing to do with whether Boston is a destination city. Our chances are definitely lower though because we don't have a star as you stated. The Heat were a destination because they had Wade. The Lakers because of Kobe. The Warriors because of Curry. People overplay the destination factor and underplay the actual NBA factor.
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#869 » by Banks2Pierce » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:14 am

galipeautim wrote:Danny may just be using Dwight Howard to reinforce that big name free agents are thinking about Boston.


I tend to think it's the opposite. Seems like it's Howard's agent trying to act like good teams with cap space are trying to get him to try to awaken a 4 year max offer from someone. 2 different Boston writers saying they don't think there's much in it.
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Re: Re: Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#870 » by KGboss » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:24 am

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In reality the chances of a top free agent coming here is non existent. It slightly goes up once they get a star. Will never be a top destination. The best you can hope for is to be mentioned in the same breath as a place like Chicago. All things equal the Knicks Lakers and Heat will always trump the Celtics in regards to market. Perhaps Brooklyn too in a few years once they get back on track.


I agree with you in part, but not that the Celtics chances are non existent. Our thoughts are skewed bacuase the Celtics mismanaged the cap for so many years and didn't have the ability to go after top flight free agents. This is basically the first example since Bird where we had a good team and cap space. Also, stars like being the #1 option and being on a good team. This is one of the few spots they can do that.


Then you still have Lakers Heat and a few other destination cities that rank higher than Boston that can give someone the ability to be that #1. Any way you look at it without a real star on this team it's impossible to get any A level FAs and most B Level ones to commit.

I dont buy the belief the lakers are a better destination right now. Blood is in the air and the players know that organization is run by morons at this point
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Re: Re: Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#871 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:47 am

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galipeautim wrote:
I agree with you in part, but not that the Celtics chances are non existent. Our thoughts are skewed bacuase the Celtics mismanaged the cap for so many years and didn't have the ability to go after top flight free agents. This is basically the first example since Bird where we had a good team and cap space. Also, stars like being the #1 option and being on a good team. This is one of the few spots they can do that.


Then you still have Lakers Heat and a few other destination cities that rank higher than Boston that can give someone the ability to be that #1. Any way you look at it without a real star on this team it's impossible to get any A level FAs and most B Level ones to commit.

I dont buy the belief the lakers are a better destination right now. Blood is in the air and the players know that organization is run by morons at this point


They might have the worst front office in the NBA from top to bottom but it's a more attractive place
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#872 » by KGboss » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:19 am

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Then you still have Lakers Heat and a few other destination cities that rank higher than Boston that can give someone the ability to be that #1. Any way you look at it without a real star on this team it's impossible to get any A level FAs and most B Level ones to commit.

I dont buy the belief the lakers are a better destination right now. Blood is in the air and the players know that organization is run by morons at this point


They might have the worst front office in the NBA from top to bottom but it's a more attractive place

Why? With social media and everything one doesnt need to be in NY or LA anymore to sell shoes.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#873 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:06 am

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KGboss wrote:I dont buy the belief the lakers are a better destination right now. Blood is in the air and the players know that organization is run by morons at this point


They might have the worst front office in the NBA from top to bottom but it's a more attractive place

Why? With social media and everything one doesnt need to be in NY or LA anymore to sell shoes.


Agreed. But it's the stigma of more media exposure. For example if you're Nike where can a guy like Durant have more exposure and move more merchandise. It's a factor. The weather is a huge factor and when you're in your mid 20s most people want to be somewhere warm. But never underestimate the power that a company like Nike has on the game.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#874 » by galipeautim » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:55 am

chrisab123 wrote:
KGboss wrote:
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They might have the worst front office in the NBA from top to bottom but it's a more attractive place

Why? With social media and everything one doesnt need to be in NY or LA anymore to sell shoes.


Agreed. But it's the stigma of more media exposure. For example if you're Nike where can a guy like Durant have more exposure and move more merchandise. It's a factor. The weather is a huge factor and when you're in your mid 20s most people want to be somewhere warm. But never underestimate the power that a company like Nike has on the game.


I'm not saying you're wrong but there is zero proof to your argument. All the teams that landed premier free agents had mega-stars. If Durant chooses this version of the Lakers then that will provide some proof, but otherwise all the teams that landed recent free agent stars (Rockets, Spurs, Heat) have had superstars already on their roster. It's not clear what their motivation was. Personally, I think if Minnesota's young guys turn into stars then even they will attract free agents.
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Re: Re: Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#875 » by jmr07019 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:56 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
KGboss wrote:
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Then you still have Lakers Heat and a few other destination cities that rank higher than Boston that can give someone the ability to be that #1. Any way you look at it without a real star on this team it's impossible to get any A level FAs and most B Level ones to commit.

I dont buy the belief the lakers are a better destination right now. Blood is in the air and the players know that organization is run by morons at this point


They might have the worst front office in the NBA from top to bottom but it's a more attractive place


Then why can't they get a meeting with KD?
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#876 » by aim2please » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:01 pm

In related, completely irrelevant news, IT just followed Horford on twitter.

Edit: Last person Horford followed on twitter is... KD.

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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#877 » by OFWGKTA » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:39 pm

aim2please wrote:In related, completely irrelevant news, IT just followed Horford on twitter.

Edit: Last person Horford followed on twitter is... KD.

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The last person KD followed on twitter is...Seth Curry

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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#878 » by 165bows » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:54 pm

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aim2please wrote:In related, completely irrelevant news, IT just followed Horford on twitter.

Edit: Last person Horford followed on twitter is... KD.

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The last person KD followed on twitter is...Seth Curry

KD and Horford to Kings confirmed

Ugh if the rest of the Curry family shows up there soon forget about winning anything for the next few years. :lol:
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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#879 » by BakersDozen » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:40 pm

Why do i feel like Ainge is going to trade for enes kanter so okc can sign horford


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Re: The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many 

Post#880 » by ajones9219 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:55 pm

aim2please wrote:In related, completely irrelevant news, IT just followed Horford on twitter.

Edit: Last person Horford followed on twitter is... KD.

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