What now?

Afam · Post #301 » by **Afam** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:32 am

Pass on Middleton. He doesn't make the Celtics into a championship team.

DarkAzcura · Post #302 » by **DarkAzcura** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:33 am

Smitty731 wrote:News that Wade is really strongly considering Milwaukee. He's had it with Miami apparently and feels insulted. This would impact Boston as they can up their pursuit of Middleton again.

Any sense of what it would take to get Middleton? Felt like they were asking for an arm and a leg pre-draft.

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #303 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:36 am

Going in for Westbrook and using those Brooklyn picks plus jaylen would end DA's career. Don't trust him for ****.

chakdaddy · Post #304 » by **chakdaddy** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:37 am

Suicide

Afam · Post #305 » by **Afam** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:40 am

You wouldn't be trading both picks. Just one. It's is an Expiring contract. You don't trade too much for a player on the last year of his contract. I like Isaiah Thomas, but he is not a star player. Russell Westbrook is.

Post #306 » by **Smitty731** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:42 am

DarkAzcura wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:News that Wade is really strongly considering Milwaukee. He's had it with Miami apparently and feels insulted. This would impact Boston as they can up their pursuit of Middleton again.

Any sense of what it would take to get Middleton? Felt like they were asking for an arm and a leg pre-draft.

Bradley and/or Smart and picks was the asking point then. I'd imagine it starts somewhere similar.

Afam · Post #307 » by **Afam** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:42 am

It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

Bar Fight · Post #308 » by **Bar Fight** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:43 am

Jesus christ if we do this Westbrook thing I'm done. Whether he stays or not. Westbrook is not getting a title when we have an all star team in the league. To piss away valuable future assets to lose in the conference finals and maybe the finals once or twice is a **** joke. I'm really losing faith in Ainge as a GM if that's true.

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #309 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:44 am

Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

This makes zero sense. These picks are not going to be the 17th pick in next years draft. Top picks turn into all stars.

brackdan70 · Post #310 » by **brackdan70** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:44 am

Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

research next years draft class a little. 2017 pick has a really good chance to be a special player.

DarkAzcura · Post #311 » by **DarkAzcura** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:45 am

Smitty731 wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:News that Wade is really strongly considering Milwaukee. He's had it with Miami apparently and feels insulted. This would impact Boston as they can up their pursuit of Middleton again.

Any sense of what it would take to get Middleton? Felt like they were asking for an arm and a leg pre-draft.

Bradley and/or Smart and picks was the asking point then. I'd imagine it starts somewhere similar.

Gotcha. Seems reasonable as long as Brown/BKN picks stay out of it. Bucks fans massively overvalue their players, but I dunno about their front office..

Celts17Pride · Post #312 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:45 am

Bar Fight wrote:Jesus christ if we do this Westbrook thing I'm done. Whether he stays or not. Westbrook is not getting a title when we have an all star team in the league. To piss away valuable future assets to lose in the conference finals and maybe the finals once or twice is a **** joke. I'm really losing faith in Ainge as a GM if that's true.

Well said

Bar Fight · Post #313 » by **Bar Fight** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:45 am

Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

Cashing in on them is drafting an 18/19 year old budding superstar. Trading them for a star that doesn't put us over the top is pissing away the potential to actually build a serious contender.

Afam · Post #314 » by **Afam** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:47 am

brackdan70 wrote:
Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

research next years draft class a little. 2017 pick has a really good chance to be a special player.

Yes I heard it was special, but I'm taking every star player in the NBA right now over whatever prospects are in 2017/2018 draft. I want the sure thing over what maybe in the future.

Homerclease · Post #315 » by **Homerclease** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:48 am

Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

The Celtics can win 55 games next year and add a prospect equal to if not better than Jaylen Brown. If Wade leaves Miami then they will match the offer sheet on TJ and Crabbe may get matched too. Brooklyn is going to be horribad next year

Afam · Post #316 » by **Afam** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:52 am

Bar Fight wrote:
Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

Cashing in on them is drafting an 18/19 year old budding superstar. Trading them for a star that doesn't put us over the top is pissing away the potential to actually build a serious contender.

Actually it does. You put Westbrook on the Celtics right now and they're facing the Cavs in the ECF. Same goes for Demarcus Cousins or Blake Griffin. Prospects take too long develop, and it's not granted they may become star players. I feel like some people overrate prospects, because they like the new shiny object and like to see what it might become. In my opinion, I just prefer established NBA players over prospects who may or may not pan out.

chakdaddy · Post #317 » by **chakdaddy** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:56 am

brackdan70 wrote:
Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

research next years draft class a little. 2017 pick has a really good chance to be a special player.

If there are n special players, rest assured we'll be given pick n+1.

Today we missed our only chance.

Bar Fight · Post #318 » by **Bar Fight** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:57 am

Afam wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
Afam wrote:It's time we stop overvaluing the Nets picks, and cash in on them. Before they lose their value.

Cashing in on them is drafting an 18/19 year old budding superstar. Trading them for a star that doesn't put us over the top is pissing away the potential to actually build a serious contender.

Actually it does. You put Westbrook on the Celtics right now and they're facing the Cavs in the ECF. Same goes for Demarcus Cousins or Blake Griffin. Prospects take too long develop, and it's not granted they may become star players. I feel like some people overrate prospects, because they like the new shiny object and like to see what it might become. In my opinion, I just prefer established NBA players over prospects who may or may not pan out.

I don't give a **** about the conference finals. The Raptors made the conference finals. That is not getting over the top. You have a chance to draft an elite prospect in the 2017 draft (there are at least like 4 guys I like better than Ben Simmons). In 10 years will you be content with the knowledge that we gave up on a star to lose to Lebron in the conference Finals a few times? I certainly wouldn't.

Afam · Post #319 » by **Afam** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:57 am

No one is saying the Nets picks wouldn't be Number 1 or 2, they might be, but I'm still going to trade them for established star players. No hesitation at all. Other people might feel different, that's ok. It just my preference.

Afam · Post #320 » by **Afam** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 1:59 am

No one is going to be Lebron for a long time. That type of talent comes once in a generation. Just have to agree to disagree.