The Official Lin Net Thread

[Rich Rane]

This will be the official moderated thread for you new "Nets" fans so you can post highlights and other Lin news on and off the court. I'll be updating this post with guidelines so please check this post accordingly. Thank you.

1.) KEEP ALL LIN WORSHIPPING WITHIN THIS THREAD

We realize that you are all Lin fans first. The moment any of you begin to twist stats to make him look like a god to argue with a regular, it brings the board down as a whole, which leads to my next point.

2.) THE NETS MODERATORS WILL BE INSTITUTING A 1-STRIKE BAN POLICY

With the recommendation of other moderators along with experiencing you or ourselves in Lin's signing thread, we have decided to move ahead with this. The moment you derail a discussion or start an argument, you will be issued a ban.

3.) YOU ARE STILL POSTING UNDER REALGM'S FORUM RULES BOTH IN AND OUT OF THIS THREAD
Please read this when you have a chance.
viewtopic.php?f=191&t=1267696

4.) DO NOT ANTAGONIZE LIN FANS
They have a right to post here and they have a right to their opinion.

5.) ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
I don't know.

[JohnStockton]

Some thoughts on the drama from the last Lin thread [starting to hate Lin because of his fans, the pro-Lin dudes on here hating on Harden, etc].

There's probably like 12 users who hopped on this board strictly because Jeremy Lin came here (including me). Probably like 3 of them are huge Lin homers, most others are more neutral homers, and there are even a few that are pretty critical of Lin.

Either way, these dudes are pretty much the same exact dudes who jumped on the Hornets board when Lin joined CHO, so whatever way you feel about any of them, it's ridiculous to start to hate a player strictly just based on 12 dudes on realGM.

Logically, it's even ridiculous to hate that group of them, if in reality you're just annoyed with the three homers who are the loudest. It'd be like saying I hate the entire Nets board because of a certain poster who hates almost every move the Nets make. The minority shouldn't make me hate the majority, just because that one user annoys me. Use better judgement instead of hating, and learn to chill.

Either way, I think a definite guideline for this thread should be: "Don't bring up non-Nets players/organizations." So basically, for the incoming Lin-fans, do not bring up James Harden, Kobe Bryant, Byron Scott, etc. There's no need for anyone to drone on about Lin's past (which has nothing to do with the Nets future).

Also as a bonus , this has got to be the funniest differences in mentality I've seen so far in my time watching some team's online fanbase meet the Lin's nomadic internet-peoples. Most Nets fans have been in purgatory for a few years now and have no hope left, while most Lin fans are wildly ecstatic that Jeremy is finally going to get an opportunity to run an offense as a Point. The depression of most Nets fans vs the unbridled optimism of most Lin fans is hilarious as F.

[ChokeFasncists]

This is cool as long as it's non-discriminatory, meaning Lin trolls/haters/doubters are subject to the same rules

[PG13]

I like these rules. They will eliminate those who pretend to be Lin fans in an effort to get the thread locked.

Still waiting for news on the introductory press conference!

[qiantom]

Yeah, I was hoping they would be introducing Lin, Johnson and Crabbe altogether. That evaporated fast.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm not sure why anyone would hate Lin because of his fans? I'm rooting for the guy because he and Lopez are our only hopes of not being the worst team in the league. I also wanted the FO to sign him because he was the 3rd best name on the market and he has a lot to prove. Plus, I was really impressed by his two way play in the playoffs last year. He looks like a totally different guy from the young kid we saw years ago vs. our team. Plus, I like how he carries himself and he seems to already be embracing a role of leadership. this team needs that badly.

and yes....we are depressed fanbase. Well I'll only speak for myself but yes, I'm a depressed Nets fan. I actually found the optimism from some of the Lin fans to be a bit funny. Like you have no idea what kind of horror awaits you all. Nothing good ever happens for the Nets. Even when something appears like its going good, the other shoe will drop soon after and we're right back in the dirt.

Part of me is like, well hell, I hope these fans are right and Lin injects some new life into our floundering and failing franchise. Just the fact that he he will bring new fans to the arena to cheer the team on is a plus.

Also though, I am glad Rich made this thread but I don't want to make it look like we (long time fans) are being discriminatory against Lin fans. Feel free to chime in on other issues concerning the team I say.

[LostInACrowd]

Thanks for finally doing this. The other thread was becoming torturous. It was like driving by a car accident. You know it's going to be a mess and you probably shouldn't look, but you can't help yourself.

[KM6]

I'm not sure why anyone would hate Lin because of his fans? I'm rooting for the guy because he and Lopez are our only hopes of not being the worst team in the league.

and yes....we are depressed fanbase. Well I'll only speak for myself but yes, I'm a depressed Nets fan. I actually found the optimism from some of the Lin fans to be a bit funny. Like you have no idea what kind of horror awaits you all. Nothing good ever happens for the Nets. Even when something appears like its going good, the other shoe will drop soon after and we're right back in the dirt.

Part of me is like, well hell, I hope these fans are right and Lin injects some new life into our floundering and failing franchise. Just the fact that he he will bring new fans to the arena to cheer the team on is a plus.

Also though, I am glad Rich made this thread but I don't want to make it look like we (long time fans) are being discriminatory against Lin fans. Feel free to chime in on other issues concerning the team I say.

I agree with your and can understand your sentiment. As a Lin fan myself, I can understand how some of the Nets fan who were not Lin followers can feel annoyed by Lin fans, when they tried to compare Lin to all star level players.

Try not to blame them, they are just expressing their opinions, and the bottom line is deep down in their hearts, they believe Lin can contribute to the basketball team this coming season, and hopefully bring victories to the Nets organization. Whether Lin is good or not, as long as we watch the games, we will all find out very soon.

I am glad mod made this thread and hopefully this will be moderated strictly according to the rules. We are Lin fans, yes, but we would be hugely disappointed if Lin can't bring some extra wins to the Nets organization. How good a player can be should not be judged solely on his stats, the goal of the game is to win games, if Lin can't be a winning player, not matter how great his stats looks, he is no better than many ineffective stat padders in the league, and he wouldn't have this many devoted followers.

However, Lin fans do need to keep in touch with reality. The projection this year for the Nets is that they are very likely to unseat the 76ers as the worse team in the NBA. Winning 30-40 games is going to sound ridiculous to a regular NBA fan. And it's hard not to have people blame them(me included) for being out of their minds at times.

Anyways, I think we should all agree that whatever we posts are just our opinions, and we should all respect other people's opinion as well. As the season unfolds, we will see how good the Nets can be with their final roster, and how good Lin truly is when giving the playmaking duty and playing under a coach that trusts him. Go Nets!! And let's hope we can fxxk up Celtic's hope of getting a lottery pick from our draft pick swap deal for the years to come.

[ChokeFasncists]

I'm not sure why anyone would hate Lin because of his fans? I'm rooting for the guy because he and Lopez are our only hopes of not being the worst team in the league. I also wanted the FO to sign him because he was the 3rd best name on the market and he has a lot to prove. Plus, I was really impressed by his two way play in the playoffs last year. He looks like a totally different guy from the young kid we saw years ago vs. our team. Plus, I like how he carries himself and he seems to already be embracing a role of leadership. this team needs that badly.

and yes....we are depressed fanbase. Well I'll only speak for myself but yes, I'm a depressed Nets fan. I actually found the optimism from some of the Lin fans to be a bit funny. Like you have no idea what kind of horror awaits you all. Nothing good ever happens for the Nets. Even when something appears like its going good, the other shoe will drop soon after and we're right back in the dirt.

Part of me is like, well hell, I hope these fans are right and Lin injects some new life into our floundering and failing franchise. Just the fact that he he will bring new fans to the arena to cheer the team on is a plus.

Also though, I am glad Rich made this thread but I don't want to make it look like we (long time fans) are being discriminatory against Lin fans. Feel free to chime in on other issues concerning the team I say.

I guess Lin(and his fans?)'s been thru much worse. No recruitment, no scholarship, undrafted, waived, hated, disrespected, derided, pigeon-holed, doubted, oppressed, cheated, discriminated, accused, Linched, banished, benched, 2 mil, the tank. This cannot be worse than that. And when luck is extremely bad despite having the means, it's only gonna get better!

5.) ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
I don't know.

[DartboardT]

I'm not sure why anyone would hate Lin because of his fans? I'm rooting for the guy because he and Lopez are our only hopes of not being the worst team in the league. I also wanted the FO to sign him because he was the 3rd best name on the market and he has a lot to prove. Plus, I was really impressed by his two way play in the playoffs last year. He looks like a totally different guy from the young kid we saw years ago vs. our team. Plus, I like how he carries himself and he seems to already be embracing a role of leadership. this team needs that badly.

and yes....we are depressed fanbase. Well I'll only speak for myself but yes, I'm a depressed Nets fan. I actually found the optimism from some of the Lin fans to be a bit funny. Like you have no idea what kind of horror awaits you all. Nothing good ever happens for the Nets. Even when something appears like its going good, the other shoe will drop soon after and we're right back in the dirt.

Part of me is like, well hell, I hope these fans are right and Lin injects some new life into our floundering and failing franchise. Just the fact that he he will bring new fans to the arena to cheer the team on is a plus.

Also though, I am glad Rich made this thread but I don't want to make it look like we (long time fans) are being discriminatory against Lin fans. Feel free to chime in on other issues concerning the team I say.

You have no idea how many bloggers/RealGM accountholders have claimed "Lin crazy somethings" have "ruined it" for them. I mean, I found the Friend/Foe buttons in like 3 minutes. Meanwhile, if some people (argumentative Lin fans and haters like) keep taking their Internet etiquette baggage with them wherever they go, well, I've been on the Webs more than long enough to know what the mods do.

Also, I AM a nomadic Lin fan, so to speak. I followed Hornets, and now I'm following Nets. So, let's see how long I last here.

C'mon, people! 22 wins! We can DO this!

Maybe?

[sidestep]

I've previously stayed out of the Lin thread because it was a train wreck and, IMO, there is little that is worth talking about re-hashing until we see some games by Lin in a Nets uniform.

[Travers]

Some thoughts on the drama from the last Lin thread [starting to hate Lin because of his fans, the pro-Lin dudes on here hating on Harden, etc].

There's probably like 12 users who hopped on this board strictly because Jeremy Lin came here (including me). Probably like 3 of them are huge Lin homers, most others are more neutral homers, and there are even a few that are pretty critical of Lin.

Either way, these dudes are pretty much the same exact dudes who jumped on the Hornets board when Lin joined CHO, so whatever way you feel about any of them, it's ridiculous to start to hate a player strictly just based on 12 dudes on realGM.

Logically, it's even ridiculous to hate that group of them, if in reality you're just annoyed with the three homers who are the loudest. It'd be like saying I hate the entire Nets board because of a certain poster who hates almost every move the Nets make. The minority shouldn't make me hate the majority, just because that one user annoys me. Use better judgement instead of hating, and learn to chill.

Either way, I think a definite guideline for this thread should be: "Don't bring up non-Nets players/organizations." So basically, for the incoming Lin-fans, do not bring up James Harden, Kobe Bryant, Byron Scott, etc. There's no need for anyone to drone on about Lin's past (which has nothing to do with the Nets future).

Also as a bonus , this has got to be the funniest differences in mentality I've seen so far in my time watching some team's online fanbase meet the Lin's nomadic internet-peoples. Most Nets fans have been in purgatory for a few years now and have no hope left, while most Lin fans are wildly ecstatic that Jeremy is finally going to get an opportunity to run an offense as a Point. The depression of most Nets fans vs the unbridled optimism of most Lin fans is hilarious as F.

I would say that as action and reaction. When some guy keep critizing Lin unfairly, there would be his fans defending him passionately. Same as if I am saying negative things about Brook Lopez in his thread, it is sured to draw the defence from his fans, not to say when its unfairly.

[Erichang]

In the locked thread, they are comparing Lillard and Harden.
This gives me an idea.
Assuming it was not Lin who joined Nets, and it was one of the following stars, how many wins can Nets achieve this season ?
Based on this list for top 20 PG:

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/nba-point-guards-ranked/7/

I would start with PB at 21 wins, because I am not sure if he could play better than Jack for Nets.
So, based on this, I would add 1 win for each higher rank PG, and the result is:

Curry 40
Westbrook 39
CP3 38
Lowry 37
Wall 36
Lillard 35
Mike Conley 34
Tony Parker 33
Isaiah Thomas 32
Kyrie Irving 31
Kemba Walker 30
Reggie Jackson 29
George Hill 28
Ricky Rubio 27
Goran Dragic 26
Derrick Rose 25
Eric Bledsoe 24
Jeff Teague 23
Dennis Schroder 22
Patrick Beverley 21

And this seems reasonable to me. I mean, I would guess that even with Curry (No KT/Green), 40 wins is not an easy task.
By the end of this season, I think this would be a good yardstick to see which level Lin is playing.
If you think my estimates need to adjust, feel free to put in your numbers.

Cheers !
Go Nets !!

[KennyD]

This will be the official moderated thread for you new "Nets" fans so you can post highlights and other Lin news on and off the court. I'll be updating this post with guidelines so please check this post accordingly. Thank you.

1.) KEEP ALL LIN WORSHIPPING WITHIN THIS THREAD

We realize that you are all Lin fans first. The moment any of you begin to twist stats to make him look like a god to argue with a regular, it brings the board down as a whole, which leads to my next point.

2.) THE NETS MODERATORS WILL BE INSTITUTING A 1-STRIKE BAN POLICY

With the recommendation of other moderators along with experiencing you or ourselves in Lin's signing thread, we have decided to move ahead with this. The moment you derail a discussion or start an argument, you will be issued a ban.

3.) YOU ARE STILL POSTING UNDER REALGM'S FORUM RULES BOTH IN AND OUT OF THIS THREAD
Please read this when you have a chance.
viewtopic.php?f=191&t=1267696

4.) DO NOT ANTAGONIZE LIN FANS
They have a right to post here and they have a right to their opinion.

5.) ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
I don't know.

this is silly, with all due respect, Lin's fan are just like any other sport fans, They have a specially player that they like, majority of them like him not because he is asian american, but because he was the underdog, someone that being look down upon because of his race. The main thing is the kid is a really good basketball player. And i don't think there is anything wrong in defending him in a forum when haters made bogus and unfair statement about him.
Also, i just don't really understand, if y'all are Nets fan here, why some of y'all talked crap about the guy?..

[Rich Rane]

this is silly, with all due respect, Lin's fan are just like any other sport fans, They have a specially player that they like, majority of them like him not because he is asian american, but because he was the underdog, someone that being look down upon because of his race. The main thing is the kid is a really good basketball player. And i don't think there is anything wrong in defending him in a forum when haters made bogus and unfair statement about him.

That's great. The problem is though that this a NETS Board, not the Lin Board. Feel free to talk about Lin outside of this thread where the majority of Nets fans appreciate Lin signing here. All I've asked is that the traveling Lin fans keep their posts on topic, it's part of a discussion, and doesn't derail threads.

Now let's move on.

[Kswiss]

I think the whole board will come to peace once the few outspoken Lin doubters actually see him play. It's hard to believe that this Nets team could win a lot of games and had I not seen Lin's body of work I wouldn't believe it myself but I genuinely believe many downtrodden Brokklyn fans will be surprised by Lin's effect on the team. But until the season starts there's really no need to argue, either Lin helps carry this team to far exceed expectations as he did the Hornets last year, or maybe he won't and we Lin supporters will have been proven wrong. But I know the coach believes in him so all will be revealed one way or another once the season starts

[Paradise]

I'm just excited to have a marketable "star" PG that loves and respects his coach and vice versa who also happens to be a likable human being and has a personality that fans of all ages can all follow. I can't quite remember the last time we had that. Between Kidd and Williams. You had the superstar talent but everything else off the court wasn't worth rooting for. I like the satisfaction I can go out to a game wearing the t-shirt or jersey of a guy who's all about positivity, hard work and toughness.

I think all Nets fans are embracing him. It's the unnecessary overrating that can get frustrating.
Yes, he's capable of all-star caliber production for us this season but that doesn't mean we will become a 40-50 win team alone. Brook had a terrific all-star caliber season and we still weren't good.

You're essentially hoping for Jeremy and Brook to have all-star caliber seasons at the same time while getting a surprise impact from somewhere else like LeVert being a surprise contender for ROY. All to coincide with improved shooting across the board to equal a winning season. Not that realistic.

Lin and anti-Lin fans have to understand that this is a realistic community board...sometimes to a fault but we keep it chill and honest. We don't dabble too much into the grand delusions that other NY basketball fans might be known for.

[MrDollarBills]

This will be the official moderated thread for you new "Nets" fans so you can post highlights and other Lin news on and off the court. I'll be updating this post with guidelines so please check this post accordingly. Thank you.

1.) KEEP ALL LIN WORSHIPPING WITHIN THIS THREAD

We realize that you are all Lin fans first. The moment any of you begin to twist stats to make him look like a god to argue with a regular, it brings the board down as a whole, which leads to my next point.

2.) THE NETS MODERATORS WILL BE INSTITUTING A 1-STRIKE BAN POLICY

With the recommendation of other moderators along with experiencing you or ourselves in Lin's signing thread, we have decided to move ahead with this. The moment you derail a discussion or start an argument, you will be issued a ban.

3.) YOU ARE STILL POSTING UNDER REALGM'S FORUM RULES BOTH IN AND OUT OF THIS THREAD
Please read this when you have a chance.
viewtopic.php?f=191&t=1267696

4.) DO NOT ANTAGONIZE LIN FANS
They have a right to post here and they have a right to their opinion.

5.) ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
I don't know.

this is silly, with all due respect, Lin's fan are just like any other sport fans, They have a specially player that they like, majority of them like him not because he is asian american, but because he was the underdog, someone that being look down upon because of his race. The main thing is the kid is a really good basketball player. And i don't think there is anything wrong in defending him in a forum when haters made bogus and unfair statement about him.
Also, i just don't really understand, if y'all are Nets fan here, why some of y'all talked crap about the guy?..

huh? who talked crap about Lin? i'm pretty sure any Net fan wants Lin to play great.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm just excited to have a marketable "star" PG that loves and respects his coach and vice versa who also happens to be a likable human being and has a personality that fans of all ages can all follow. I can't quite remember the last time we had that. Between Kidd and Williams. You had the superstar talent but everything else off the court wasn't worth rooting for. I like the satisfaction I can go out to a game wearing the t-shirt or jersey of a guy who's all about positivity, hard work and toughness.

I think all Nets fans are embracing him. It's the unnecessary overrating that can get frustrating.
Yes, he's capable of all-star caliber production for us this season but that doesn't mean we will become a 40-50 win team alone. Brook had a terrific all-star caliber season and we still weren't good.

You're essentially hoping for Jeremy and Brook to have all-star caliber seasons at the same time while getting a surprise impact from somewhere else like LeVert being a surprise contender for ROY. All to coincide with improved shooting across the board to equal a winning season. Not that realistic.

Lin and anti-Lin fans have to understand that this is a realistic community board...sometimes to a fault but we keep it chill and honest. We don't dabble too much into the grand delusions that other NY basketball fans might be known for.

Yeah you guys have no idea what kind of crap the fanbase had to deal with when Deron Williams played here. He was an unlikable guy who rarely played with max effort. He was an ass hole from the moment he got here, so to see Lin sign here and have a positive attitude, and being a guy who can be very marketable to all fans is great.

Watch as we get closer to the season, the Nets marketing department will make his fans very pleased because his face is going to be all over Brooklyn. we just need to win games though

[Erichang]

And Lin may be indeed as good as Lillard if he can bring Nets to 35 wins.