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Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII)

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Re: Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII) 

Post#1361 » by Bishop45 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:01 pm

N82WILL wrote:So we are trying to put together a playoff team huh? Tank org doesn't like this, even though waiters is trash.


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Re: Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII) 

Post#1362 » by twix2500 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:01 pm

Backcourt looks likely;
PG: Dragic/ Johnson/ Weber/ Beno
SG: Richardson/ Waiters/ Ellington/ McGruder

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Post#1363 » by HeatIn5 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:02 pm

The only way this makes sense to me is if we are actually trading Winslow/Richardson/Dragic for Westbrook. Not sure how the lineup would shake up, but we have A LOT of guards right now. I don't see them keeping Waiters on the bench over a guy like McGruder who seems to play well with our young guys and he has some chemistry with them.
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Post#1364 » by pseudonym28 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:03 pm

pg Goran Dragic/Briante Weber
sg Tyler Johnson/Dion Waiters/Wayne Ellington
sf Josh Richardson/Derrick Williams/James Johnson
pf Justise Winslow/Luke Babbit/Udonis Haslem
c Hassan Whiteside/Willie Reed/Josh McRoberts
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Post#1365 » by Rich2Hassan » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:03 pm

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N82WILL wrote:So we are trying to put together a playoff team huh? Tank org doesn't like this, even though waiters is trash.

How you get playoff team with the garbo we signed

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Because we are going to end up with 35 wins as the 9th/10th seed and lose our lottery pick. (Top 5) is what we need.
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Post#1366 » by QUIZ » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:04 pm

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N82WILL wrote:So we are trying to put together a playoff team huh? Tank org doesn't like this, even though waiters is trash.

How you get playoff team with the garbo we signed

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Because we are going to end up with 35 wins as the 9th/10th seed and lose our lottery pick. (Top 5) is what we need.

Why would we lose it? The pick is ours. 9/10th seed would land us with a lottery pick.
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Post#1367 » by twix2500 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:05 pm

N82WILL wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
N82WILL wrote:So we are trying to put together a playoff team huh? Tank org doesn't like this, even though waiters is trash.

How you get playoff team with the garbo we signed

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Because we are going to end up with 35 wins as the 9th/10th seed and lose our lottery pick.

Do not see it that way. Top five lotto team is what I see.

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Post#1368 » by QUIZ » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:07 pm

Dion Waiters has a TS% of 49 for his career. That's borderline out of the league bad.
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Post#1369 » by contract » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:08 pm

QUIZ wrote:Goran averaged 17 & 7 post asb last season once we started running. If we could showcase him this year putting up 20 & 7 we could get a serious return for him at the deadline.

He's locked in cheap for the next 4 years making about half what Conley is getting. Now is the time to recoup some value.

Why trade away a reasonable contract? We have Whiteside and Dragic and the kids. Why not build on that?
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Post#1370 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:09 pm

QUIZ wrote:Goran averaged 17 & 7 post asb last season once we started running. If we could showcase him this year putting up 20 & 7 we could get a serious return for him at the deadline.

He's locked in cheap for the next 4 years making about half what Conley is getting. Now is the time to recoup some value.


I agree with you Quiz but the teams that will want him are playoffs teams not lottery teams so at the best we are looking at 14+ draft pick? It makes more sense to keep him than get low first round picks for him. Maybe try to pawn him off with another player to get someone else?
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Post#1371 » by Mars » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:09 pm

Honestly, there's no downside to the signing.
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Post#1372 » by Rich2Hassan » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:10 pm

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twix2500 wrote:How you get playoff team with the garbo we signed

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Because we are going to end up with 35 wins as the 9th/10th seed and lose our lottery pick. (Top 5) is what we need.

Why would we lose it? The pick is ours. 9/10th seed would land us with a lottery pick.

The sole purpose of the TANK operation is to land the Miami HEAT a top 5 lottery pick. Anything out of the top 5 IS CONSIDERED a loss in the eyes of the TANK delegation. We ARE NOT in the business of trying to compete for the 7th/8th seed only to get trounced in tbe 1st round. MIAMI TANK operations are fully on board with a full out TANK, resulting in Josh Jackson. Any further questions or concerns can be communicated through PM. Thanks, N8, Pres. Tank Ops.
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Post#1373 » by contract » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:11 pm

Seabass777 wrote:Should have gotten Lance.

May as well.
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Post#1374 » by contract » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:14 pm

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QUIZ wrote:What's so bad about the Ellington signing? Year 2 is a team option. If he sucks he'll only further the tank.


Tanking with 3 max contracts and a poison pill sittin' upright, sounds like a bad hustle

Hopefully they're up to something and not dancing to randomness

2 max contracts. Dragic didn't get near his max.
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Post#1375 » by QUIZ » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:15 pm

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QUIZ wrote:Goran averaged 17 & 7 post asb last season once we started running. If we could showcase him this year putting up 20 & 7 we could get a serious return for him at the deadline.

He's locked in cheap for the next 4 years making about half what Conley is getting. Now is the time to recoup some value.


I agree with you Quiz but the teams that will want him are playoffs teams not lottery teams so at the best we are looking at 14+ draft pick? It makes more sense to keep him than get low first round picks for him. Maybe try to pawn him off with another player to get someone else?

We could do a 3 team trade like the Hawks/Jazz/Pacers
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Re: Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII) 

Post#1376 » by Bishop45 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:16 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:
QUIZ wrote:What's so bad about the Ellington signing? Year 2 is a team option. If he sucks he'll only further the tank.


Tanking with 3 max contracts and a poison pill sittin' upright, sounds like a bad hustle

Hopefully they're up to something and not dancing to randomness

2 max contracts. Dragic didn't get near his max.


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Post#1377 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:21 pm

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Post#1378 » by contract » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:22 pm

J-House wrote:Why did we sign both Williams and J.Johnson? Very similar games. I see no differences in them.

The plan is obvious. Throw a ton of "stuff" at the wall, and see what sticks. Pat is just giving Spo a bunch of options to play with.
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Re: Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII) 

Post#1379 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:22 pm

QUIZ wrote:Dion Waiters has a TS% of 49 for his career. That's borderline out of the league bad.

Once upon a time Hassan Whiteside was considered out of the league bad.
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Post#1380 » by contract » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:23 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:2 year deal with a player option...Jesus Christ.

Am I the only one that saw Waiters play these past few years? what exactly does he do well? where is the upside for this?

Unless we're playing him big minutes and going for that top 3 draft pick. I think he'll be great in that role.

But just the thought of seeing TJ and Rich or Justise on the bench while Spo plays Ellington and Waiters...God give me strength...

Time out, Waiters is a 2 year deal?

Pat is going to use Waiters to recruit Westbrook.
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