Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII)

J-House · Post #1801 » by **J-House** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:13 pm

I want to give TJ another chance at PG. Throw him in the fire and let him fight through the kinks. Goran averaged 14/6 last year and I think it's possible for TJ to mirror that. I like Goran but he's not a pure PG nor a major scoring threat. TJ is a freak athlete and can already shoot the 3 ball pretty well, you add a consistent 5 assists a game and you have a starting caliber shoot-first PG. Wishful thinking, I know.

Bishop45 · Post #1802 » by **Bishop45** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:17 pm

Tyler starting at SG, so we could give Weber minutes at backup PG is what I want but that means Rich has to play SF and who knows if the staff or Rich is buying into that

Bishop45 · Post #1803 » by **Bishop45** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:56 pm

What are the chances of us being a top 10 defensive team next year, y'all think? We've got a shot at being stronger at wing defense post-Green/Wade with the right combination and some luck (Addition of Waiters/JJohnson maybe JRich?) but Bosh could be a big hit. With Bosh I feel like we could be a top 10 defensive and offensive team, maybe without too but that would take X amount of luck and preparation. Weber could be a huge +, offensively/defensively if everything aligns but so much, ???...

Chalm Down · Post #1804 » by **Chalm Down** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:14 pm

Bishop45 wrote:What are the chances of us being a top 10 defensive team next year, y'all think? We've got a shot at being stronger at wing defense post-Green/Wade with the right combination and some luck (Addition of Waiters/JJohnson maybe JRich?) but Bosh could be a big hit. With Bosh I feel like we could be a top 10 defensive and offensive team, maybe without too but that would take X amount of luck and preparation. Weber could be a huge +, offensively/defensively if everything aligns but so much, ???...

The talent is definitely there, but we'll have to see if the bball iq is.

Chalm Down · Post #1805 » by **Chalm Down** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:15 pm

IggieCC wrote:Well one sliver lining of this Waiter fiasco is that it fast tracked this MESS of a thread full of hate, crappy signings and Knicks love to its righteous demise.

I'm ready for fresh start. hope you guis are ready for a new thread, new OP, new ERA. teheheheee

You lost Wade.

Mos_Heat · Post #1806 » by **Mos_Heat** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:20 pm

Bishop45 wrote:What are the chances of us being a top 10 defensive team next year, y'all think? We've got a shot at being stronger at wing defense post-Green/Wade with the right combination and some luck (Addition of Waiters/JJohnson maybe JRich?) but Bosh could be a big hit. With Bosh I feel like we could be a top 10 defensive and offensive team, maybe without too but that would take X amount of luck and preparation. Weber could be a huge +, offensively/defensively if everything aligns but so much, ???...

top 10 defensive team, probably, but not offensive. Fast pace does not cure your inability to score efficiently. Not in 2016.

cyclix · Post #1807 » by **cyclix** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:21 pm

Dragic: 100% PG
Waiters: 100% SG
TJ: 30% PG | 70% SG
Richardson: 35% PG | 30% SG | 35% SF
Winslow: <5% SG | 30% SF | 60% PF | <5% C
Ellington: 50% SG | 50% SF

Bishop45 · Post #1808 » by **Bishop45** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:24 pm

Chalm Down wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:What are the chances of us being a top 10 defensive team next year, y'all think? We've got a shot at being stronger at wing defense post-Green/Wade with the right combination and some luck (Addition of Waiters/JJohnson maybe JRich?) but Bosh could be a big hit. With Bosh I feel like we could be a top 10 defensive and offensive team, maybe without too but that would take X amount of luck and preparation. Weber could be a huge +, offensively/defensively if everything aligns but so much, ???...

The talent is definitely there, but we'll have to see if the bball iq is.

Yea' Reed/Weber/JJohnson/Waiters might not be that, maybe even Whiteside and Rich but we'll see what Spo can do forreal. If Bosh is back, I think it's a real possibility

contract · Post #1809 » by **contract** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:32 pm

People wonder why Boogie? Boogie would be more attractive to free agents looking to team up with other stars. As someone already said, he is baby Shaq.

Bishop45 · Post #1810 » by **Bishop45** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:34 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:What are the chances of us being a top 10 defensive team next year, y'all think? We've got a shot at being stronger at wing defense post-Green/Wade with the right combination and some luck (Addition of Waiters/JJohnson maybe JRich?) but Bosh could be a big hit. With Bosh I feel like we could be a top 10 defensive and offensive team, maybe without too but that would take X amount of luck and preparation. Weber could be a huge +, offensively/defensively if everything aligns but so much, ???...

top 10 defensive team, probably, but not offensive. Fast pace does not cure your inability to score efficiently. Not in 2016.

W/o Bosh I think it's possible (slim but possible), Charlotte was top 10 in both last year and we have a better mix of defenders/offensive players(Okay, slightly homerish).

Going to be interesting to see how they come together offensively, especially if Bosh isn't here/ Hard to see us not being able to touch 100 pts like we were post-ASB last season if Dragic/Whiteside get what they want. Defense is going to be interesting too, but I'm sure Spo's all over that

Mos_Heat · Post #1811 » by **Mos_Heat** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:44 pm

Bishop45 wrote:W/o Bosh I think it's possible (slim but possible), Charlotte was top 10 in both last year and we have a better mix of defenders/offensive players(Okay, slightly homerish).

Going to be interesting to see how they come together offensively, especially if Bosh isn't here/ Hard to see us not being able to touch 100 pts like we were post-ASB last season if Dragic/Whiteside get what they want. Defense is going to be interesting too, but I'm sure Spo's all over that

Top-10 on D and O means, that you are a strong PO-team with 45+ wins. I just don't see it. The level of competition on the East is too high for this team.

Post #1812 » by **IggieCC** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:53 pm

Chalm Down wrote:
IggieCC wrote:Well one sliver lining of this Waiter fiasco is that it fast tracked this MESS of a thread full of hate, crappy signings and Knicks love to its righteous demise.

I'm ready for fresh start. hope you guis are ready for a new thread, new OP, new ERA. teheheheee
Spoiler:

You lost Wade.

Dennis Reynolds · Post #1813 » by **Dennis Reynolds** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:56 pm

IggieCC wrote:Well one sliver lining of this Waiter fiasco is that it fast tracked this MESS of a thread full of hate, crappy signings and Knicks love to its righteous demise.

I'm ready for fresh start. hope you guis are ready for a new thread, new OP, new ERA. teheheheee

You are absolutely right. In case someone was wondering why I didn't post on this board in a while,it's cause of OP. I'm Jewish and he really offended me. Can't believe there are people in this world who hate on others just because of their religion. Thank God you guys aren't like him and I decided I will not let 1 hater stop me from posting here.

Spoiler:

Bishop45 · Post #1814 » by **Bishop45** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:07 pm

leoshes · Post #1815 » by **leoshes** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:08 pm

I Like my centers to rebound & protect the rim. I do not want my centers out at the 3 point line where they are not rebounding, & protecting the rim. I dont need my center scoring 25 points a game, while allowing apposing centers to score at will.

Boogie might not make that much now but he will ask for the max when his contract is up. & that max will be higher then Whitesides .

Another thing those who do not like Pat & the HEAT franchise can easily find another franchise to like. Or follow their man crush player to another team.

Ive been a fan since 88, & every player i have liked has retired already & im still a fan of my HEAT franchise & always will be.

May Pat Riley live for ever.

leoshes · Post #1816 » by **leoshes** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:12 pm

contract wrote:People wonder why Boogie? Boogie would be more attractive to free agents looking to team up with other stars. As someone already said, he is baby Shaq.

I saw Shaq at LSU & was there when he was drafted, & Boogie is more like All Jefferson then Shaq.

Cmon_Son-_- · Post #1817 » by **Cmon_Son-_-** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:17 pm

I could see TJ having a good year. Out of the 3 main young guys we have he's always been the most aggressive on offense and if his jumpshot got better then teams will have to pick their poison with him.

Cmon_Son-_- · Post #1818 » by **Cmon_Son-_-** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:18 pm

Al Jefferson? The disrespect :nonono:

wadeskywalker · Post #1819 » by **wadeskywalker** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:15 pm

leoshes wrote:I Like my centers to rebound & protect the rim. I do not want my centers out at the 3 point line where they are not rebounding, & protecting the rim. I dont need my center scoring 25 points a game, while allowing apposing centers to score at will.

Boogie might not make that much now but he will ask for the max when his contract is up. & that max will be higher then Whitesides .

Another thing those who do not like Pat & the HEAT franchise can easily find another franchise to like. Or follow their man crush player to another team.

Ive been a fan since 88, & every player i have liked has retired already & im still a fan of my HEAT franchise & always will be.

May Pat Riley live for ever.

Well said

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contract · Post #1820 » by **contract** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:17 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:

Mos_Heat dropping a Duce.