MyUniBroDavis wrote:Hardly fair, it's a bigger part of Durante game, and he is extremely efficient, but it's not as if Davis isn't good in transition.
It's a bigger part of Durant's game because he runs the floor better.
Out of all players with 100 plus possessions, he is first, at 1.36ppp Kd is at 1.33ppp
Right, so Durant gets you a couple hundred more points on nigh identical efficiency? He's comfortably the superior player in transition.
Durant does get more rebounds per rebound chance than Davis, but there are 2 problems with this.
1, Davis is elite in this category, getting 65.7% of his rebound opportunities, behind only deandre and Drummond, and 2, Durant generally won't rebound against the centers as much (looking at avg rebound distance, while Durant should be further for obvious reasons he is a clear outlier).
Neither of these things negates the fact that relative to their role & position, Durant is the superior rebounder.
Hip, thigh, and core strength? You realize this also plays a part in, well, strength, right? Davis is arguably faster, and clearly more explosive (let's not act as if lebron really sprinted in that race, he was running at a moderately fast pace, he was going full Throttle)
Davis is neither faster nor more explosive from a stand still. I do believe he's a more explosive leaper though. Bounce and overall strength are his two athletic advantages in this comparison imo.
Here's the thing. I agree that Gianni's and Durant are more fluid than AD. But Davis isn't like some deandre Jordan. He is very fluid for his size. VERY. when's the last time you saw a big men jab step hesitate and fade away, and do that stuff? Exactly.
I very much believe Davis is comparable to Jordan athletically. In some instances I'd favor the latter, especially around the rim on offense.
As for the "perfect body" there's one thing. Davis at this point is around 6ft11-7ft, but his wingspan allegedly grew to 7ft7 3/4. So yeah like he wins.
Davis is 6'10 with a 7'5 wingspan. He's shorter than KD and the same height as Giannis while being the least mobile of the 3 and carrying the shortest standing reach.
It's not about speed and stuff, it's about the combination of size, strength, and speed. You could definitely argue (and I think so tbh) that Davis is faster than both in a foot race, and he is much stronger than either of them. He is more "physically gifted" than either, and requires less effort to jump and do that stuff than either of them.
The Davis party has provided nothing to substantiate these claims that he's faster than Durant & Giannis. Meanwhile, there's been multiple clips showing both of them getting down the floor and to the basket in two dribbles.
Let me put it this way. Give 2015 davis Durant's jump shot. Who scares you more? Better yet, take it away from both of them.
AD has a jump shot, yet KD comfortably remains the superior player. Why? Because his overall package is more dominant than what AD brings to the table. In large part because of what he's able to do on the perimeter(32/8/5, for example) at 6'11, 240 with a 7'5 wing span.
As for ball handling, that stuff is true. But, ya know, the most important part is the ball handling part. And "ball handling ability" hardly proves any of that is true, it's simply stuff needed. Going by that logic, John wall can handle the ball better than steph curry, or every street baller is more athletic and nimble than the average nba sg or sf.
You're basically proving our points. John Wall's handle isn't as strong as Curry's(whose underrated athletically. His lateral quickness and quick twitch movements are lethal), but he's still able to get the the rim at will due to his overall athletic package.
In the same vein, despite AD's handle being inferior to GA & KD, he should be able to still get to the basket at will given his alleged athletic advantages. This isn't the case though... why?
Also, let's talk about their respective ceilings, instead of projections. If we are going there for Gianni's arguement
Alright, one guy has the ceiling of the top of Bill gates house.
The other has the ceiling of the Hubble telescope
Like holy crap you have no idea how many things that had to go wrong went wrong for Davis this year. If you take 2015 Davis and give him a legitimate good coach then that's already higher than Gianni's will ever reach. You don't understand how incredibly fffffffed up 2015 was.
2016 there were injuries and he just didn't finish well at times.
Davis is the better player and he has the higher ceiling(jump shot, skill, IQ, defense), but that doesn't mean he's more athletic. The two notions are mutually exclusive.
