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Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays

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Choose 4, of the Bottom 6, to make the Regular Season Roster

Jackson
91
21%
Young
67
15%
Hunter
61
14%
Green
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23%
Mickey
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24%
Bentil
16
4%
 
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#341 » by Fidel Sarcasmo » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:50 pm

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Gant wrote:Going purely by 15th man standards, Hunter and Young are above average. For that reason Hunter's good enough to latch on to the end of someone's else's roster.

The decision was razor close and could have gone the other way. Most importantly, unless something surprising happens, the choice didn't matter.


Another thought: A year ago no one could tell you who'd be better- Hunter or Rozier. It shows you how much Rozier's developed in a short time.

Another 'nother thought: I feel bad for RJ, but it's a sports feel-bad, not a regular person feel-bad. The kid is 23 years old and if he manages his money properly, he never has to work another day in his life. It's not the worst position anyone's ever fallen into.


absolutely not true. Rozier played very well in preseason and Summer League and was always a much better thought of prospect. It was never even close actually. His "improvement" is more about getting more minutes. Seems like he's been playing this way from day one. He might be more assertive/aggressive if anything



That is just text book form on that shot. People that have that kind of mechanics and follow through on there shot will always be scorers. He's a budding scorer. Just wait until he gets 30 minutes a game. Just watch. Kid'll put up 15-18 a game in his sleep if he gets half way greedy with his stats this year.
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#342 » by DoubleHappiness » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:52 pm

Also, good for James, his work must have impressed coaching staff enough to go to bat for him. I still think it is a mistake for sure. IMO RJ has about a 50/50 shot of carving out a rotation role on a team in a few years.

Since we're not at practice every day it's possible James just meshed with the guys better or the coaching staff liked him better. RJ almost always says the right thing and is very likeable, but you gotta back up that talk in every practice. Still rooting for both of them as there is absolutely no way RJ clears waivers.
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#343 » by Gant » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:56 pm

jrob23 wrote:
Gant wrote:Going purely by 15th man standards, Hunter and Young are above average. For that reason Hunter's good enough to latch on to the end of someone's else's roster.

The decision was razor close and could have gone the other way. Most importantly, unless something surprising happens, the choice didn't matter.


Another thought: A year ago no one could tell you who'd be better- Hunter or Rozier. It shows you how much Rozier's developed in a short time.

Another 'nother thought: I feel bad for RJ, but it's a sports feel-bad, not a regular person feel-bad. The kid is 23 years old and if he manages his money properly, he never has to work another day in his life. It's not the worst position anyone's ever fallen into.


absolutely not true. Rozier played very well in preseason and Summer League and was always a much better thought of prospect. It was never even close actually. His "improvement" is more about getting more minutes. Seems like he's been playing this way from day one. He might be more assertive/aggressive if anything



Take a look at this board from a year ago give or take a few months. There are threads that cover this subject and people could not tell who had the best future among the three rookies: Rozier, Hunter, and Mickey.
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#344 » by SMTBSI » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:05 pm

Well, I don't agree with the decision. But, as others have pointed out, the odds of this move ever mattering are small - it's highly likely they're both gone eventually anyway. It was, after all, the battle of the 15th men.
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Post#345 » by Bar Fight » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:13 pm

This is gonna be funny to look back on when DJ, Zeller, Green, and Young are off the team in a year or two after having contributed nothing. RJ will find a spot on another team pretty quickly. Best wishes to him.
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Post#346 » by Fidel Sarcasmo » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:15 pm

SMTBSI wrote:Well, I don't agree with the decision. But, as others have pointed out, the odds of this move ever mattering are small - it's highly likely they're both gone eventually anyway. It was, after all, the battle of the 15th men.


With another top end draft pick coming next year, we'll have no room for Young after this season. He's on borrowed time still. I hope he's saving his money.
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#347 » by ryaningf » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:17 pm

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First and last time is more like it.

The bigger question now becomes: is Danny's going to pick up his 4th year option next week?

Avoiding the waiver wire should not equate with 1 more year of guaranteed money but at the same time if you're not going to pick up his option you should have waived him today.

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Different circumstances and lots of first rounders in that time span, but cutting 2 1st round picks after their first year over a 5 year span is an exclusive club no GM wants to be in. Spurs cut Charles this fall before he even played a game (after stashing him a couple years) but outside of the stash scene this rarely happens.
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#348 » by Murta » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:23 pm

Having to pick up rookie options for the season after, before the current has actually started, is one of the biggest f***ups in the NBA. Why not make it after the season but before the draft (like before June 20th)? It's bad for the players and even worse for teams.
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Post#349 » by DoubleHappiness » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:26 pm

ryaningf wrote:
DoubleHappiness wrote:
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Different circumstances and lots of first rounders in that time span, but cutting 2 1st round picks after their first year over a 5 year span is an exclusive club no GM wants to be in. Spurs cut Charles this fall before he even played a game (after stashing him a couple years) but outside of the stash scene this rarely happens.


True, I knew the Charles one but I think a lot of people guessed that was because of an ACL and losing speed. Royce White is the other one I thoughy of, but the issue there was never basketball.

Maybe at 23 they thought RJs frame would not be able to put on the weight and strength required to defend. He has that Reggie Miller sort of frame to him, and Reggie pretty much stayed the same weight his whole career iirc.
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#350 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:51 pm

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First and last time is more like it.

The bigger question now becomes: is Danny's going to pick up his 4th year option next week?

Avoiding the waiver wire should not equate with 1 more year of guaranteed money but at the same time if you're not going to pick up his option you should have waived him today.

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Not sure if that Jae quote could hold one more variation of I hope.

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Different circumstances and lots of first rounders in that time span, but cutting 2 1st round picks after their first year over a 5 year span is an exclusive club no GM wants to be in. Spurs cut Charles this fall before he even played a game (after stashing him a couple years) but outside of the stash scene this rarely happens.


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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#351 » by return2glory » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:54 pm

Dogen wrote:Not too late to go after Mitch McGary. Thunder waived him. Sure he'll get picked up, I liked him when drafted, not sure what happened. Injuries? Lack of effort? He seemed pretty motivated in his first year.


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Post#352 » by 165bows » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:03 pm

McGary, Jean-Charles, Ennis, Archie Goodwin, supposedly Jordan Adams, Hunter, all kinds of former first rounders biting the dust today.

The one tough thing on RJ to me is losing the Doc Rivers trade, when Doc's trade record is so bad and there was some real potential in that trade.

Jeopardy Question:

A: This player's draft rights ended up being Doc Rivers' sole winning trade and Danny Ainge's single losing trade since the two split up in 2013?

Q: Who is RJ Hunter?
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Re: Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays 

Post#353 » by 165bows » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:09 pm

There's this one:

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The Celtics now have 3 first round picks since 2011 - JuJuan Johnson, Fab Melo, RJ Hunter - that lasted only one year in the organization


More importantly, they have had 8 first round picks in the years 2011-15, three totally busted out and one of the remainder is James Young.
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Post#354 » by DK-All Day » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:16 pm

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Post#355 » by return2glory » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:21 pm

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He is happy being the 15th man. Not something you want to here from a guy drafted with the 17th overall in the first round.


Opposed to being on the verge of washing out of the NBA completely? .


As opposed to not taking things for granted the first time around. He didn't care his first two years. He still sucked in SL this year.

I don't want to hear excuses he was only 18 when he got drafted. He has God given talent and had a one million chance to get drafted.
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Post#356 » by Avalanche » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:22 pm

Would drop Young for a couple of those other cuts
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Post#357 » by 24istheLAW » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:49 pm

Avalanche wrote:Would drop Young for a couple of those other cuts
Just sayin


Same. As far as lottery tickets go, I'd take McGary or Goodwin over Young. Two guys who need some attitude rehab but are better athletes and ballhandlers for their positions than Young is.
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Post#358 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:09 pm

Attitude rehab...
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Post#359 » by Fidel Sarcasmo » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:10 pm

if we're talking drugs I assume we're talking cocaine or harder. Tell me he didn't throw it all away cause weed was too powerful
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Post#360 » by Zaschrona » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:24 pm

I think we made a good choice. Young is still young and we probably should pick-up his player option to give him time to develop, he earned that right now. If Hunter's biggest strenght is shooting than he is statistically only marginally better than Young, while he offers more potential defensively, is better rebounder, can draw fouls better, turns the ball less. I still think he could become next Arron Afflalo.

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