Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)

[Mylie10]

We need an efficient center. Draymond isn't going to cut it acting as a center throughout the season & zaza is wayyyy too soft.


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Soft? LOL

He's averaging nearly 15 rebounds per 36 minutes right now. And he's known as one of the tough guys in the league.

Now if you would say you'd like a center who can block and alter shots, and run and leap like Deandre Jordan, and with a skill level of Marc Gasol, then yeah, I'm with you.

[Coxy]

My prime time, semi-obtainable but highly unlikely mid-season trade target ideas are as follows:

Taj Gibson
Jusuf Nurkic
Alex Len or Tyson Chandler
Kenneth Faried

The others I get (except Chandler, who destroys your cap space for a couple of years and is on a horrible contract and not that good any more), but Faried? Undersized PF, not a great defender, energy/hustle big.

Faried whilst undersized, is better than Pachulia.

[Andre Roberstan]

My prime time, semi-obtainable but highly unlikely mid-season trade target ideas are as follows:

Taj Gibson
Jusuf Nurkic
Alex Len or Tyson Chandler
Kenneth Faried

The others I get (except Chandler, who destroys your cap space for a couple of years and is on a horrible contract and not that good any more), but Faried? Undersized PF, not a great defender, energy/hustle big.

Faried whilst undersized, is better than Pachulia.

He's not a better defender than Pachulia. Guarantee you that.

[Coxy]

The others I get (except Chandler, who destroys your cap space for a couple of years and is on a horrible contract and not that good any more), but Faried? Undersized PF, not a great defender, energy/hustle big.

Faried whilst undersized, is better than Pachulia.

He's not a better defender than Pachulia. Guarantee you that.

I haven't watched Faried this season, but he can't have dropped off like Zaza has. Pachulia looks like he has cinder blocks attached to his feet now. He can hardly jump and moves slower than a sloth on Prozac. Faried surely could at least challenge some shots, run with this team on the break and rebound with energy, all of which Zaza doesn't seem to be able to do now.

Maybe I'm way off and Faried sucks as well now. I just want Bogut back!

[Phase 3]

Faried whilst undersized, is better than Pachulia.

He's not a better defender than Pachulia. Guarantee you that.

I haven't watched Faried this season, but he can't have dropped off like Zaza has. Pachulia looks like he has cinder blocks attached to his feet now. He can hardly jump and moves slower than a sloth on Prozac. Faried surely could at least challenge some shots, run with this team on the break and rebound with energy, all of which Zaza doesn't seem to be able to do now.

Maybe I'm way off and Faried sucks as well now. I just want Bogut back!

Slow is an understatement lol. Most plays Zaza doesn't even attempt to play defense because he knows he has no chance...it's that bad haha.

[azwfan]

So Taj Gibson looks like a good option. Not sure how the heck we get him though. Can throw Andy V, McAdoo, Jones, Looney, and McGee, and Clark together and salary is still short of making it work. Gonna have to give up Livingston (last thing Chicago needs is another guard who can't shoot) or Iguodala (last think we need is to trade a defender). I guess we can try and trade Zaza. (?)

I don't know how to make it happen.

[clyde21]

So Taj Gibson looks like a good option. Not sure how the heck we get him though. Can throw Andy V, McAdoo, Jones, Looney, and McGee, and Clark together and salary is still short of making it work. Gonna have to give up Livingston (last thing Chicago needs is another guard who can't shoot) or Iguodala (last think we need is to trade a defender). I guess we can try and trade Zaza. (?)

I don't know how to make it happen.

Iggy for Taj is the only thing that works which kind of sort of makes sense, but I don't see why the Bulls would make this trade on their end (or even if I would make it on ours).

Also...I don't think we can trade Zaza after he took such a huge discount to sign with us. Terrible message to send around the league, IMO.

[Left*My*Heart]

McCaw, Jones, Looney, Clark, McAdoo and a 2019 first round pick, are our tradable assets. I still don't believe the front office would trade Iguodala or Livingston. Livingston is our backup PG and trading him creates a hole. McCaw isn't going to step in and replace what Livingston brings.

Iguodala is part of the core and If he agreed to help the team by being traded, IMO would be the only way he is traded. Remember he is a big reason why Durant is a Warrior.

[clyde21]

McCaw, Jones, Looney, Clark, McAdoo and a 2019 first round pick, are our tradable assets. I still don't believe the front office would trade Iguodala or Livingston. Livingston is our backup PG and trading him creates a hole. McCaw isn't going to step in and replace what Livingston brings.

Iguodala is part of the core and If he agreed to help the team by being traded, IMO would be the only way he is traded. Remember he is a big reason why Durant is a Warrior.

Clark and McAdoo are fillers at best. I don't know if I'd consider them "assets".

I think Klay is tradeable for the right price.

[SF_Warriors]

If we want to acquire a real starting center we have to part with mccaw, a first rounder, and possibly looney. Even then, the center most likely would have to be in his rookie contract. No team would give a good young starter quality center for that package, unfortunately.
The big four is not going anywhere, and neither is andre. I do not think SL is untouchable, although losing him would suck.

[clyde21]

Klay for Noel, Covington and a first makes the most sense for everyone involved.

Sorry Klay groupies.

[Phase 3]

McCaw, Jones, Looney, Clark, McAdoo and a 2019 first round pick, are our tradable assets. I still don't believe the front office would trade Iguodala or Livingston. Livingston is our backup PG and trading him creates a hole. McCaw isn't going to step in and replace what Livingston brings.

Iguodala is part of the core and If he agreed to help the team by being traded, IMO would be the only way he is traded. Remember he is a big reason why Durant is a Warrior.

Exactly. No one in the meeting recruiting KD is gonna be traded this year...that's the reality. If people want to live in fantasy land, knock yourself out lol.

[clyde21]

McCaw, Jones, Looney, Clark, McAdoo and a 2019 first round pick, are our tradable assets. I still don't believe the front office would trade Iguodala or Livingston. Livingston is our backup PG and trading him creates a hole. McCaw isn't going to step in and replace what Livingston brings.

Iguodala is part of the core and If he agreed to help the team by being traded, IMO would be the only way he is traded. Remember he is a big reason why Durant is a Warrior.

Exactly. No one in the meeting recruiting KD is gonna be traded this year...that's the reality. If people want to live in fantasy land, knock yourself out lol.

Then let's stop with the trade talks all together, because we won't be getting anything of value in return.

And I don't want to trade McCaw. He's going to be integral moving forward with Livingston and Iggy aging.

[Phase 3]

McCaw, Jones, Looney, Clark, McAdoo and a 2019 first round pick, are our tradable assets. I still don't believe the front office would trade Iguodala or Livingston. Livingston is our backup PG and trading him creates a hole. McCaw isn't going to step in and replace what Livingston brings.

Iguodala is part of the core and If he agreed to help the team by being traded, IMO would be the only way he is traded. Remember he is a big reason why Durant is a Warrior.

Exactly. No one in the meeting recruiting KD is gonna be traded this year...that's the reality. If people want to live in fantasy land, knock yourself out lol.

Then let's stop with the trade talks all together, because we won't be getting anything of value in return.

And I don't want to trade McCaw. He's going to be integral moving forward with Livingston and Iggy aging.

Not all trade ideas...just unrealistic, never gonna happen ones like Klay for Noel lol.

[clyde21]

Exactly. No one in the meeting recruiting KD is gonna be traded this year...that's the reality. If people want to live in fantasy land, knock yourself out lol.

Then let's stop with the trade talks all together, because we won't be getting anything of value in return.

And I don't want to trade McCaw. He's going to be integral moving forward with Livingston and Iggy aging.

Not all trade ideas...just unrealistic, never gonna happen ones like Klay for Noel lol.

So what's realistic is talking about trading guys like Clark and McAdoo for a rim protector?

[Phase 3]

Then let's stop with the trade talks all together, because we won't be getting anything of value in return.

And I don't want to trade McCaw. He's going to be integral moving forward with Livingston and Iggy aging.

Not all trade ideas...just unrealistic, never gonna happen ones like Klay for Noel lol.

So what's realistic is talking about trading guys like Clark and McAdoo for a rim protector?

That's not what Left My Heart was talking about at all. Read his post again.

[Left*My*Heart]

The front office would love to add a rim protector. However a trade has to fit into their long term plans. I don't know their long term plans, but we do know they aren't going to add salary to their cap that would affect the ability to re-sign Durant and Curry, as well as having some flexibility to upgrade the roster this next off season.

We aren't rich in assets, we have our rookies and Looney basically. We aren't getting anything for McAdoo and very little for Clark. The problem trading McCaw, Jones and Looney, they are projected by the front office to be "cheap" quality players for the future. They each fit a need and they have tremendous upside when and if healthy.

The front office surprised me that they would consider a trade at the deadline if things didn't jell the way the expect. I personally think they stand down and don't make a trade. I think the front office would realize a potential hit to chemistry by making a big trade. We are already seeing on court chemistry issues that are being worked through and a mid-season trade could really hurt the team down the stretch.

That is why I project that if any trade is made, it is a smaller one that involves one or more of our youngsters.

[Left*My*Heart]

I know it's boring to not be on the trade machine all day, but that is where this team and front office is right now, standing pat.

[clyde21]

I know it's boring to not be on the trade machine all day, but that is where this team and front office is right now, standing pat.

It's been 4 games. They haven't even properly evaluated everyone on the roster yet.

[Coxy]

Klay for Noel, Covington and a first makes the most sense for everyone involved.

Sorry Klay groupies.

If that happened, I'd insist on the 1st to be unprotected. I'd also be pissed at our FO. However, I'd get it, and it would open up a lot of other things for us long term, but I'd still be pissed and I think so would the players.

Anyway, can't see it happening.