Demar derozan has been balling

SuperSant · Post #482 » by **SuperSant** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:19 pm

DeMar is now ranked 3rd in the NBA in PER....

Where the haters at now? This dude is balling!!

Week 3 Rankings
1. Chris Paul: 32.0
2. Russell Westbrook: 31.6
3. DeMar DeRozan: 31.5
4. Anthony Davis: 31.4
5. James Harden: 31.4
6. Kevin Durant: 29.3
7. Kawhi Leonard: 29.2
8. Jimmy Butler: 28.4
9. Damian Lillard: 28.3
10. DeMarcus Cousins: 27.7
11. Kemba Walker: 27.7
12. Stephen Curry: 27.5

Post #483 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:25 pm

BetterCallSaul wrote:we can be confident that we're getting more or less the full 5 years of that production, right?

Based on the fact that it is skill/read based. Veteran type of play. It's not at all unreasonable to think he won't regress until he is 32 or so and hopefully even improve some of his other skills as he as been doing.

I would think so, but I'd also like to see how he reacts as his shooting normalizes and he isn't hanging 30+ every night, what the defenses do, etc, etc. The skills do strike me as likely to endure. We'll see. We'll also see how he handles the playoffs.

Mr Burns · Post #484 » by **Mr Burns** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:27 pm

MikeM wrote:He's mostly in the same zones of the court but he's taking different shots. It's hard to explain unless you've watched the Raptors forever.

He's obviously still running hot but ya, I think his game has changed.

This!

Was talking to a friend about this exact thing the other day. He gets to the same spots on the floor as he used to in years past but its what he does once he gets there that has changed a lot this year. He is reading the defence much better and taking the shots that he is comfortable with instead of letting the defenders dictate where he goes.

A few things I really like about his game now is that he is aware of who is guarding him now. Small defender? goes right into the post and looks to either draw the contact of use his size to get as close to the bucket as possible. Bigger defender? added things like the side step to create space and get open looks or uses his great pump fake to get them off the floor so he could either drive to the hoop or draw contact.

I have been watching DeMar play since he got drafted to our team and I can honestly say he has never looked this fluid and composed on the ball court. In years past he was really questioned in his ability to close out games because it seemed like he would take an ill advised shot or dribble the ball off his foot out of bounds. Comparing his late game decisions this year to those of years past is a night and day difference. I hope he can keep it up, I wish nothing but the best for him because he is one of the most humble and deserving players in the league. #ProveEM

BetterCallSaul · Post #485 » by **BetterCallSaul** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:30 pm

tsherkin wrote:
BetterCallSaul wrote:we can be confident that we're getting more or less the full 5 years of that production, right?

Based on the fact that it is skill/read based. Veteran type of play. It's not at all unreasonable to think he won't regress until he is 32 or so and hopefully even improve some of his other skills as he as been doing.

I would think so, but I'd also like to see how he reacts as his shooting normalizes and he isn't hanging 30+ every night, what the defenses do, etc, etc. The skills do strike me as likely to endure. We'll see. We'll also see how he handles the playoffs.

Uh, I asked you to let me get ahead of myself! Couldn't we just live in that universe for just this moment.
I am also anxiously waiting on a game by game, shot by shot basis to see where this rise ends up leaving him.

Post #486 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:53 pm

BetterCallSaul wrote:Uh, I asked you to let me get ahead of myself! Couldn't we just live in that universe for just this moment.

That's why I made the Demar Positivity Thread on the Raps board

Me? I'm just going to enjoy watching him while he's up.

Hindenburg · Post #487 » by **Hindenburg** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:21 am

The rest of the league is in trouble

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KnightofHyrule · Post #488 » by **KnightofHyrule** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:41 am

Hindenburg wrote:The rest of the league is in trouble

Read on Twitter

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Yeah, this quote pretty much confirms DeRozan is Kobe-lite. Ujiri needs to trade for a 3rd all-star NOW.

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MrBigShot · Post #489 » by **MrBigShot** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:50 am

Strange to think that not long ago fans of various teams were praying their respective teams wouldn't offer DeRozan a max contract after his playoff performance.

nbafan341 · Post #490 » by **nbafan341** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:38 am

Demar looking good against the cavs, hes not getting calls but hes still played well

KnightofHyrule · Post #491 » by **KnightofHyrule** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:45 am

Kevistics wrote:Demar looking good against the cavs, hes not getting calls but hes still played well

Yeah refs are messing with him still. Refs are messing with all of the Raptors. They almost killed Cojo just now.

EDIT: They called the foul. Didn't even realize...that's how bad it is. DeRozan will get to the line in the fourth....trust me on that.

nbafan341 · Post #492 » by **nbafan341** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:47 am

KnightofHyrule wrote:
Kevistics wrote:Demar looking good against the cavs, hes not getting calls but hes still played well

Yeah refs are messing with him still. Refs are messing with all of the Raptors. They almost killed Cojo just now.

Yeah one of the refs bet his paycheque on this game. Its disappointing to see this knowing that refs could be fixing games and ruinin a good matchup. Demar had taken more 3s as a result of not getting calls.

Gil · Post #493 » by **Gil** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:41 am

10-27 tonight. It begins.....

DeadHorse · Post #494 » by **DeadHorse** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:45 am

Gil wrote:10-27 tonight. It begins.....

DeCline?

nbafan341 · Post #495 » by **nbafan341** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:01 am

Slava wrote:
PurpleTrees wrote:He is a top 10 player right now and has been top 20 for about 2 seasons now.

Please tell me which of these players he is better than:

Lebron
Curry
Durant
Leonard
Westbrook
Chris Paul
Anthony Davis
Paul George
Harden
Lillard

He is going through a hot streak, he will cool down soon.

After 10 games and a record of 7-3, hes better than anthony davis paul george and lillard in terms of his numbers and team record. its a small sample but its def worth considering.

KnightofHyrule · Post #496 » by **KnightofHyrule** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:05 am

DeadHorse wrote:
Gil wrote:10-27 tonight. It begins.....

DeCline?

LOL, he'll go back to high scoring against the Nuggets on Friday.

ILOVEIT · Post #497 » by **ILOVEIT** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:22 am

Show me the money...

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Empty stats against mid level and bad teams don't mean chit. Show up against the Cavs! Show up against Warriors! Show up in the playoffs!

DeadHorse · Post #498 » by **DeadHorse** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:48 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Show me the money...

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Empty stats against mid level and bad teams don't mean chit. Show up against the Cavs! Show up against Warriors! Show up in the playoffs!

lol what? he put up 32/7 against the cavs just two weeks ago, and had a great series against the cavs in the ECF

UnbelievablyRAW · Post #499 » by **UnbelievablyRAW** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:52 pm

I wish Demar had the mentality of (current) D Wade. Far too often Demar is willing to shoot over 2-3 people instead of recognizing that the other team is so scared of him, they are probably ignoring someone else. He cloud legit average 6 assists per game if he was more willing to pass the ball. That would also relieve pressure on him if the help defender's man (usually JV) is scoring well as well.

He's making those contested shots, now, but the game would open up for him more if defenders had to think about the pass just as much as the shot

Johnny Bball · Post #500 » by **Johnny Bball** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:23 pm

MrBigShot wrote:Strange to think that not long ago fans of various teams were praying their respective teams wouldn't offer DeRozan a max contract after his playoff performance.

Instead I was thinking how good a defender George Hill is (and so was Utah) and how good a defender Paul George is.