Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To

[Duke4life831]

Jackson just gets the game of basketball. I dont know a better way of saying this. This is something that can be said about many guys in this draft which is another reason why this draft is so good. You watch Jackson on both sides of the ball and you know this dude just knows how to play. You couldnt say the same thing for Wiggins when he was at KU. I just look at guys like Fultz, DSJ, Jackson, Tatum and Ball and you watch them play and you just go ya these guys just know how to play this game at an elite level.

Tatum had an off shooting night the last game but you watch him play and he just does what he needs to do and still ends up with 13/5/3 with a couple steals and a couple blocks. Ball could only attempt 1 shot in a half, but if you just watch the guy play, you just say, damn that dude knows how to run an offense effortlessly. DSJ has struggled shooting the ball but all you gotta do is see his athleticism with his handle then see how amazing he runs the PnR, you just say to yourself this dude in an NBA system is going to be scary.

This class has great athletes, great skill guys, but I think what makes this group so special is you have these guys with either great skill sets or great athleticism, mixed with great IQ for the game. This draft is going to be special.

[gom]

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He's so good. I love the weird shot, but my favorite play is when he finds his man in the paint when he's falling out of bounds. I still like Fultz more, though.

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Temple is not a crappy team. They're not Michigan, but they will compete for the AAC championship. Watch how involved he gets, especially the steal on the inbound pass. And, yeah, he could have won the game for them and he didn't, but I love his effort anyhow.

[DayofMourning]

He's so good. I love the weird shot, but my favorite play is when he finds his man in the paint when he's falling out of bounds. I still like Fultz more, though.

Temple is not a crappy team. They're not Michigan, but they will compete for the AAC championship. Watch how involved he gets, especially the steal on the inbound pass. And, yeah, he could have won the game for them and he didn't, but I love his effort anyhow.

Ball is making a believer out of a lot of people. I wasn't on the bandwagon until he started drilling shots from 30 feet regularly, without a dip in percentage. He's proven that he can be an offensive threat with his shooting, which makes his passing even more insane.

As for Isaac, you can't win'em all. He does have nice length, good fluidity, and a smooth jump shot. I've never really seen him super aggressive though, so I'd like to get a glimpse of that.

[Duke4life831]

He's so good. I love the weird shot, but my favorite play is when he finds his man in the paint when he's falling out of bounds. I still like Fultz more, though.

Temple is not a crappy team. They're not Michigan, but they will compete for the AAC championship. Watch how involved he gets, especially the steal on the inbound pass. And, yeah, he could have won the game for them and he didn't, but I love his effort anyhow.

Ball is making a believer out of a lot of people. I wasn't on the bandwagon until he started drilling shots from 30 feet regularly, without a dip in percentage. He's proven that he can be an offensive threat with his shooting, which makes his passing even more insane.

As for Isaac, you can't win'em all. He does have nice length, good fluidity, and a smooth jump shot. I've never really seen him super aggressive though, so I'd like to get a glimpse of that.

Ive been a Ball fan for a long time so his shooting is not a surprise to me. The dude was a sharp shooter his first few years in high school it was ridiculous.

Im with you on Isaac, im not really sold on Isaac because I just havent seen that it factor with him. Ya hes a 6'11 wing, how can you not like that. But I just cant get a good read on him because he is very inconsistent and he does lack that intensity and aggression youd like. I cant tell if he is another Brandon Ingram or if he is just the next Quincy Miller. The December before the 12 draft Quincy was still looked at as a top 10 pick. He was even considered a top 5 pick before his season at Baylor started.

[gom]

He's so good. I love the weird shot, but my favorite play is when he finds his man in the paint when he's falling out of bounds. I still like Fultz more, though.

Temple is not a crappy team. They're not Michigan, but they will compete for the AAC championship. Watch how involved he gets, especially the steal on the inbound pass. And, yeah, he could have won the game for them and he didn't, but I love his effort anyhow.

Ball is making a believer out of a lot of people. I wasn't on the bandwagon until he started drilling shots from 30 feet regularly, without a dip in percentage. He's proven that he can be an offensive threat with his shooting, which makes his passing even more insane.

As for Isaac, you can't win'em all. He does have nice length, good fluidity, and a smooth jump shot. I've never really seen him super aggressive though, so I'd like to get a glimpse of that.

Ive been a Ball fan for a long time so his shooting is not a surprise to me. The dude was a sharp shooter his first few years in high school it was ridiculous.

Im with you on Isaac, im not really sold on Isaac because I just havent seen that it factor with him. Ya hes a 6'11 wing, how can you not like that. But I just cant get a good read on him because he is very inconsistent and he does lack that intensity and aggression youd like. I cant tell if he is another Brandon Ingram or if he is just the next Quincy Miller. The December before the 12 draft Quincy was still looked at as a top 10 pick. He was even considered a top 5 pick before his season at Baylor started.

I think his unique skills are the way as a nearly 6'11" forward that he runs the floor like a guard, has great footwork especially doing crossovers that open up a free lane to the basket, a good pass, and excellent ball handling skills for his position. He also defends well and is very bright about picking up on the plays. I think FSU is going to make some noise this year and he'll have a great vitrine.

With respect to Brandom Ingram, his game is very different. Ingram is a better shooter and Jonathan Isaac is a better defender (especially on the glass). I am a fan of Ingram though. I think he's making a great transition to the NBA too.

Miller, who had a great season last year at Crvena Zvezda, faded pretty quickly. He's had a bad NBA career, though, but you have to wonder if it's all his fault. He was drafted to Denver and was part of the 56 win George Karl team, playing 7 games in his first season. Then he backed up Faried for Brian Shaw before getting dealt to Sacramento to play under George Karl again. Reminds me a lot of Whiteside's struggles. Let's see how he does at Maccabee.

[Pure_Basketball]

Currently sitting with pick 5 in the draft. Plenty of great options to get. Surely Minnesota are going to go on a winning streak at some point. They're under performing terribly.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

I know a lot of people aren't going to like what I got to say but I think Jackson's a little overrated over here. The guy does a lot of things well but he doesn't seem like much of a shooter to me, but that doesn't mean I don't think he could become a future star I just think they're are other draftees that are more likely to have very successful careers.

Jackson has a good BBIQ, passes the ball well, defends on the perimeter, has good handles, and takes the ball to the rim for eye-popping dunks. He is a great prospect even without the dead-eye shot That being said, he plays the same position as Winslow and Hassan doesn't shoot well either, which is why I say that Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, or Lonzo Ball are better for us. Still, if Fultz has already been drafted, I'd draft Jackson before any of the others, because you have to take the player with greater potential rather than best fit.

How much potential does Jackson have offensively though? His 3-point and free-throw shooting numbers are big red flags and he'll be 20 before draft night comes. Unless he really improves on his shooting I'd pick him 3rd at the earliest. I won't be surprised come draft night if he's picked at 4th or 5th. Again, I'm not saying he isn't impressive but he's also far from flawless and that seems to be ignored here.

[gom]

I know a lot of people aren't going to like what I got to say but I think Jackson's a little overrated over here. The guy does a lot of things well but he doesn't seem like much of a shooter to me, but that doesn't mean I don't think he could become a future star I just think they're are other draftees that are more likely to have very successful careers.

Jackson has a good BBIQ, passes the ball well, defends on the perimeter, has good handles, and takes the ball to the rim for eye-popping dunks. He is a great prospect even without the dead-eye shot That being said, he plays the same position as Winslow and Hassan doesn't shoot well either, which is why I say that Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, or Lonzo Ball are better for us. Still, if Fultz has already been drafted, I'd draft Jackson before any of the others, because you have to take the player with greater potential rather than best fit.

How much potential does Jackson have offensively though? His 3-point and free-throw shooting numbers are big red flags and he'll be 20 before draft night comes. Unless he really improves on his shooting I'd pick him 3rd at the earliest. I won't be surprised come draft night if he's picked at 4th or 5th. Again, I'm not saying he isn't impressive but he's also far from flawless and that seems to be ignored here.

The aggressive way he goes to the hoop, his athleticism, and the foot and hand skills are much harder to learn (if at all possible) than shooting. You don't have to look far to find players that shot poorly in their rookie seasons: Kobe Bryant, James Harden, and Paul George. A better indicator of whether they will survive in the NBA long enough to get mad skills is how comfortable they are on court. This is why, for example, Winslow with his defensive play and high BBIQ is a better prospect than Richardson and Johnson, who can clearly shoot better. Ok, Winslow is a lot younger too! Jackson and Winslow are one year apart. If you get those two guys on your team, just relax and watch what happens.

[PizzaLord305]

Jackson has a good BBIQ, passes the ball well, defends on the perimeter, has good handles, and takes the ball to the rim for eye-popping dunks. He is a great prospect even without the dead-eye shot That being said, he plays the same position as Winslow and Hassan doesn't shoot well either, which is why I say that Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, or Lonzo Ball are better for us. Still, if Fultz has already been drafted, I'd draft Jackson before any of the others, because you have to take the player with greater potential rather than best fit.

How much potential does Jackson have offensively though? His 3-point and free-throw shooting numbers are big red flags and he'll be 20 before draft night comes. Unless he really improves on his shooting I'd pick him 3rd at the earliest. I won't be surprised come draft night if he's picked at 4th or 5th. Again, I'm not saying he isn't impressive but he's also far from flawless and that seems to be ignored here.

The aggressive way he goes to the hoop, his athleticism, and the foot and hand skills are much harder to learn (if at all possible) than shooting. You don't have to look far to find players that shot poorly in their rookie seasons: Kobe Bryant, James Harden, and Paul George. A better indicator of whether they will survive in the NBA long enough to get mad skills is how comfortable they are on court. This is why, for example, Winslow with his defensive play and high BBIQ is a better prospect than Richardson and Johnson, who can clearly shoot better. Ok, Winslow is a lot younger too! Jackson and Winslow are one year apart. If you get those two guys on your team, just relax and watch what happens.

So, with Jackson and winslow on the same squad, who plays what? Jackson slides to the 2? I think jacksons gonna be good, but I prefer fultz or ball or maybe even giles for the heat this draft.

[Duke4life831]

Jackson has a good BBIQ, passes the ball well, defends on the perimeter, has good handles, and takes the ball to the rim for eye-popping dunks. He is a great prospect even without the dead-eye shot That being said, he plays the same position as Winslow and Hassan doesn't shoot well either, which is why I say that Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, or Lonzo Ball are better for us. Still, if Fultz has already been drafted, I'd draft Jackson before any of the others, because you have to take the player with greater potential rather than best fit.

How much potential does Jackson have offensively though? His 3-point and free-throw shooting numbers are big red flags and he'll be 20 before draft night comes. Unless he really improves on his shooting I'd pick him 3rd at the earliest. I won't be surprised come draft night if he's picked at 4th or 5th. Again, I'm not saying he isn't impressive but he's also far from flawless and that seems to be ignored here.

The aggressive way he goes to the hoop, his athleticism, and the foot and hand skills are much harder to learn (if at all possible) than shooting. You don't have to look far to find players that shot poorly in their rookie seasons: Kobe Bryant, James Harden, and Paul George. A better indicator of whether they will survive in the NBA long enough to get mad skills is how comfortable they are on court. This is why, for example, Winslow with his defensive play and high BBIQ is a better prospect than Richardson and Johnson, who can clearly shoot better. Ok, Winslow is a lot younger too! Jackson and Winslow are one year apart. If you get those two guys on your team, just relax and watch what happens.

A Winslow/Jackson pairing at the 2/3 would be very interesting to see. Both really good athletes, Jackson more explosive while Winslow stronger. Both with similar games where they have good handles and can facilitate and the questionable jumpers. I think Jackson has the higher offensive potential while Winslow is the better defender and the higher defensive potential. At least one of them would have to figure out their jumper to make it work though. But if it were to work you would be looking at one young and fun perimeter pairing that has great two way potential. Would be really fun to watch defensively for sure.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

How much potential does Jackson have offensively though? His 3-point and free-throw shooting numbers are big red flags and he'll be 20 before draft night comes. Unless he really improves on his shooting I'd pick him 3rd at the earliest. I won't be surprised come draft night if he's picked at 4th or 5th. Again, I'm not saying he isn't impressive but he's also far from flawless and that seems to be ignored here.

The aggressive way he goes to the hoop, his athleticism, and the foot and hand skills are much harder to learn (if at all possible) than shooting. You don't have to look far to find players that shot poorly in their rookie seasons: Kobe Bryant, James Harden, and Paul George. A better indicator of whether they will survive in the NBA long enough to get mad skills is how comfortable they are on court. This is why, for example, Winslow with his defensive play and high BBIQ is a better prospect than Richardson and Johnson, who can clearly shoot better. Ok, Winslow is a lot younger too! Jackson and Winslow are one year apart. If you get those two guys on your team, just relax and watch what happens.

So, with Jackson and winslow on the same squad, who plays what? Jackson slides to the 2? I think jacksons gonna be good, but I prefer fultz or ball or maybe even giles for the heat this draft.

I prefer Fults and Ball too but not because of position of need. We could always trade McGruder and have TJ be a full-time PG(yes, playing 16 minutes off the bench on a $15,000,000 a year contract) if Jackson shows he's good enough to get minutes at SG. Hopefully, Waiters opts out of his contract next off-season.

[UD4MVP]

Man Fultz split a pick and roll with a beautiful behind the back in his last game.. He has no legitimate flaws in his skillset, and he has elite measurables to go along with that

[gom]

Feb 4 and Mar 1 will be Washington vs UCLA. Fultz vs Ball. Should be fun!

[twozeroMM]

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Man I'd give up a lot to get Ball on this team. Dude is going to be special

[gom]

In the UCF game tonight, Tacko Fall was shy of 1 rebound for a double-double at the half. He now is 7-7 for 14 points with 11 rebounds and a block. Aside from him, Matt Williams is 4-7 for 11 points. The rest of the team is 0-17. Knights are losing to Penn.

[gom]

He finished 8-8 for 17 points, 17 rebounds, 1 block, 2 steals, 2 turnovers, and 0 assists. Cleaned up his game: 1 PF tonight.

Pretty bad result though: 58-49. Knights lose their second game to fall to 7-2.

[Bishop45]

So what's up with Luke Kennard? Worth late first, late second? Is he even going to the draft?

[DayofMourning]

http://www.nbadraft.net/gunnin-1-spot

[Feel_the_Heat15]

If anyone thinks we have a chance at a top 3 pick, let alone the #1 pick without lottery luck, is setting themselves up for disappointment. With all of our rotational players healthy we're better than the 76ers, Nets, Mavericks and Phoenix. Just be happy that we're in great position to draft unique players such as Isaac and Markkanen without trading away Dragic.

[Bishop45]

If anyone thinks we have a chance at a top 3 pick, let alone the #1 pick without lottery luck, is setting themselves up for disappointment. With all of our rotational players healthy we're better than the 76ers, Nets, Mavericks and Phoenix. Just be happy that we're in great position to draft unique players such as Isaac and Markkanen without trading away Dragic.

Lettuce dream breh. Fwiw, 36 wins got us 10th pick two years ago and got Sac 8th with something similar last year. So barring trade or destructo disk of injuries, I see us around there