Where is Nerlens?

[spikeslovechild]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

[SelfishPlayer]

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The Sixers organization has publicly created a losing culture and you are mad if a player develops a losing mentality?

[Mr Gametime]

I think the obvious choice is sending him to phoenix for brandon Knight. Phoenix needs to trade a guard and Philly needs to trade a big. Knight can start at PG or even play SG if needed and he has the ability to be a big time scorer which is what this team needs.

[TTP]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

We don't know the whole story. For all we know the elective surgery was suggested by the team while they reassured him that they were working to clear up the logjam, either through trade, or using that time to evaluate the situation. Then he comes back and the problem still isn't solved. I think it's very reasonable for him to be upset with only getting 8 minutes last game if he thought he was healthy.

It's pretty unreasonable to call him a cancer and a loser. It's also pretty unreasonable to suggest that he's a "ME first guy". He's been pretty quiet and patient through the process era despite a ton of losing and some questionable decisions that directly impacted his future (drafting Okafor). The team has had about a year and a half to figure things out and Noel will likely suffer for it financially. He played out of position for a year, negatively impacting his stats and impacting the amount of money he'll get in free agency. After a year and a half of patience with the situation, it's pretty reasonable to stand up for his self interests.

Even if I were to concede that Noel is a selfish cancer, stating that you don't win with those types of players on a team is asinine. The Patriots for years have picked up disgruntled/problem talent and have remained successful (Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Albert Haynesworth, etc). Kobe was ridiculously selfish and more or less forced Shaq out of town. Talent trumps everything else.

It's also foolish to think contending teams wouldn't be interested. The Bulls signed Rondo, a known cancer, this offseason. Josh Smith got chances with the Rockets and Clippers. The Heat signed Dion Waiters. I'm sure there's countless other examples.

[Negrodamus]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

We don't know the whole story. For all we know the elective surgery was suggested by the team while they reassured him that they were working to clear up the logjam, either through trade, or using that time to evaluate the situation. Then he comes back and the problem still isn't solved. I think it's very reasonable for him to be upset with only getting 8 minutes last game if he thought he was healthy.

It's pretty unreasonable to call him a cancer and a loser. It's also pretty unreasonable to suggest that he's a "ME first guy". He's been pretty quiet and patient through the process era despite a ton of losing and some questionable decisions that directly impacted his future (drafting Okafor). The team has had about a year and a half to figure things out and Noel will likely suffer for it financially. He played out of position for a year, negatively impacting his stats and impacting the amount of money he'll get in free agency. After a year and a half of patience with the situation, it's pretty reasonable to stand up for his self interests.

Even if I were to concede that Noel is a selfish cancer, stating that you don't win with those types of players on a team is asinine. The Patriots for years have picked up disgruntled/problem talent and have remained successful (Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Albert Haynesworth, etc). Kobe was ridiculously selfish and more or less forced Shaq out of town. Talent trumps everything else.

It's also foolish to think contending teams wouldn't be interested. The Bulls signed Rondo, a known cancer, this offseason. Josh Smith got chances with the Rockets and Clippers. The Heat signed Dion Waiters. I'm sure there's countless other examples.

A great response to a ludicrous assertion. No one here knows what happens within the team and to draw conclusions because Nerlens is frustrated is beyond silly.

[Ericb5]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

We don't know the whole story. For all we know the elective surgery was suggested by the team while they reassured him that they were working to clear up the logjam, either through trade, or using that time to evaluate the situation. Then he comes back and the problem still isn't solved. I think it's very reasonable for him to be upset with only getting 8 minutes last game if he thought he was healthy.

It's pretty unreasonable to call him a cancer and a loser. It's also pretty unreasonable to suggest that he's a "ME first guy". He's been pretty quiet and patient through the process era despite a ton of losing and some questionable decisions that directly impacted his future (drafting Okafor). The team has had about a year and a half to figure things out and Noel will likely suffer for it financially. He played out of position for a year, negatively impacting his stats and impacting the amount of money he'll get in free agency. After a year and a half of patience with the situation, it's pretty reasonable to stand up for his self interests.

Even if I were to concede that Noel is a selfish cancer, stating that you don't win with those types of players on a team is asinine. The Patriots for years have picked up disgruntled/problem talent and have remained successful (Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Albert Haynesworth, etc). Kobe was ridiculously selfish and more or less forced Shaq out of town. Talent trumps everything else.

It's also foolish to think contending teams wouldn't be interested. The Bulls signed Rondo, a known cancer, this offseason. Josh Smith got chances with the Rockets and Clippers. The Heat signed Dion Waiters. I'm sure there's countless other examples.

A great response to a ludicrous assertion. No one here knows what happens within the team and to draw conclusions because Nerlens is frustrated is beyond silly.

I won't go so far as to say that Noel is a cancer, but he is making this a bigger problem because of his selfishness.

Obviously he has a right to be mad, and I will never begrudge him for his feelings. However he is throwing a public temper tantrum now, and he is hurting the team.


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[XDevilBoiX]

I don't blame Noel for voicing his opinion, that means he has the drive to play and help the team or else he doesn't care and just show up to collect his paycheck. How he handled it is most likely wrong, should let his agent talk to BC. BB is likely over his head in this situation, how can you play Noel for 8 mins is just BS unless they also have Noel on a mins restriction without publicly acknowledging it.

I also wonder if other GMs are trying to rip BC off since he hasn't done squat. I just think if Hinkie was still here, this situation most likely would have been resolved by now.

[Eyeamok]

I don't blame Noel for voicing his opinion, that means he has the drive to play and help the team or else he doesn't care and just show up to collect his paycheck. How he handled it is most likely wrong, should let his agent talk to BC. BB is likely over his head in this situation, how can you play Noel for 8 mins is just BS unless they also have Noel on a mins restriction without publicly acknowledging it.

I also wonder if other GMs are trying to rip BC off since he hasn't done squat. I just think if Hinkie was still here, this situation most likely would have been resolved by now.

Let me just add to that. He is young and frustrated too. You shove a mike in a young persons face that is emotional and guess what, they are going to say emotional things. Es normal.

[Eyeamok]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

We don't know the whole story. For all we know the elective surgery was suggested by the team while they reassured him that they were working to clear up the logjam, either through trade, or using that time to evaluate the situation. Then he comes back and the problem still isn't solved. I think it's very reasonable for him to be upset with only getting 8 minutes last game if he thought he was healthy.

It's pretty unreasonable to call him a cancer and a loser. It's also pretty unreasonable to suggest that he's a "ME first guy". He's been pretty quiet and patient through the process era despite a ton of losing and some questionable decisions that directly impacted his future (drafting Okafor). The team has had about a year and a half to figure things out and Noel will likely suffer for it financially. He played out of position for a year, negatively impacting his stats and impacting the amount of money he'll get in free agency. After a year and a half of patience with the situation, it's pretty reasonable to stand up for his self interests.

Even if I were to concede that Noel is a selfish cancer, stating that you don't win with those types of players on a team is asinine. The Patriots for years have picked up disgruntled/problem talent and have remained successful (Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Albert Haynesworth, etc). Kobe was ridiculously selfish and more or less forced Shaq out of town. Talent trumps everything else.

It's also foolish to think contending teams wouldn't be interested. The Bulls signed Rondo, a known cancer, this offseason. Josh Smith got chances with the Rockets and Clippers. The Heat signed Dion Waiters. I'm sure there's countless other examples.

That was beautiful. I wish I had the ability to give you more than just one And 1.

And if you are looking for another name to add to your list Dennis Rodman comes to mind.

[spikeslovechild]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

We don't know the whole story. For all we know the elective surgery was suggested by the team while they reassured him that they were working to clear up the logjam, either through trade, or using that time to evaluate the situation. Then he comes back and the problem still isn't solved. I think it's very reasonable for him to be upset with only getting 8 minutes last game if he thought he was healthy.

It's pretty unreasonable to call him a cancer and a loser. It's also pretty unreasonable to suggest that he's a "ME first guy". He's been pretty quiet and patient through the process era despite a ton of losing and some questionable decisions that directly impacted his future (drafting Okafor). The team has had about a year and a half to figure things out and Noel will likely suffer for it financially. He played out of position for a year, negatively impacting his stats and impacting the amount of money he'll get in free agency. After a year and a half of patience with the situation, it's pretty reasonable to stand up for his self interests.

Even if I were to concede that Noel is a selfish cancer, stating that you don't win with those types of players on a team is asinine. The Patriots for years have picked up disgruntled/problem talent and have remained successful (Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Albert Haynesworth, etc). Kobe was ridiculously selfish and more or less forced Shaq out of town. Talent trumps everything else.

It's also foolish to think contending teams wouldn't be interested. The Bulls signed Rondo, a known cancer, this offseason. Josh Smith got chances with the Rockets and Clippers. The Heat signed Dion Waiters. I'm sure there's countless other examples.

Did you listen to his press conference? He said I'm too good. This **** needs to get figured out. Did you hear anything about the team? Him being upset at the loss or the fact we aren't winning? ALL he is concerned about is his minutes that's the definition of me first in my book anyways. Maybe you have a different one. I suspect you'd have the same if the player was not named Noel.

Here's the thing almost every great team has players sacrificing. Bosh sacrificed on the heat. Love sacrificed on the Cavaliers. The GSW have Durant and have to share the ball with Curry, Green, Thompson, and have multiple players who could be starting for other teams.

And lets be honest those players are ALL better then Noel. Also, this isn't just me surmising this stuff Woj has literally came out with a tweet indicating the same thing. That's his reputation. Which is well deserved in my book. Then there is just the fact he isn't as good as he thinks. Teams will put up with that kind of **** because they are Kobe. Or Cousins. Noel is a side piece. He isn't good enough to be causing these type of problems.

[TTP]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

We don't know the whole story. For all we know the elective surgery was suggested by the team while they reassured him that they were working to clear up the logjam, either through trade, or using that time to evaluate the situation. Then he comes back and the problem still isn't solved. I think it's very reasonable for him to be upset with only getting 8 minutes last game if he thought he was healthy.

It's pretty unreasonable to call him a cancer and a loser. It's also pretty unreasonable to suggest that he's a "ME first guy". He's been pretty quiet and patient through the process era despite a ton of losing and some questionable decisions that directly impacted his future (drafting Okafor). The team has had about a year and a half to figure things out and Noel will likely suffer for it financially. He played out of position for a year, negatively impacting his stats and impacting the amount of money he'll get in free agency. After a year and a half of patience with the situation, it's pretty reasonable to stand up for his self interests.

Even if I were to concede that Noel is a selfish cancer, stating that you don't win with those types of players on a team is asinine. The Patriots for years have picked up disgruntled/problem talent and have remained successful (Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Albert Haynesworth, etc). Kobe was ridiculously selfish and more or less forced Shaq out of town. Talent trumps everything else.

It's also foolish to think contending teams wouldn't be interested. The Bulls signed Rondo, a known cancer, this offseason. Josh Smith got chances with the Rockets and Clippers. The Heat signed Dion Waiters. I'm sure there's countless other examples.

Did you listen to his press conference? He said I'm too good. This **** needs to get figured out. Did you hear anything about the team? Him being upset at the loss or the fact we aren't winning? ALL he is concerned about is his minutes that's the definition of me first in my book anyways. Maybe you have a different one. I suspect you'd have the same if the player was not named Noel.

Here's the thing almost every great team has players sacrificing. Bosh sacrificed on the heat. Love sacrificed on the Cavaliers. The GSW have Durant and have to share the ball with Curry, Green, Thompson, and have multiple players who could be starting for other teams.

And lets be honest those players are ALL better then Noel. Also, this isn't just me surmising this stuff Woj has literally came out with a tweet indicating the same thing. That's his reputation. Which is well deserved in my book. Then there is just the fact he isn't as good as he thinks. Teams will put up with that kind of **** because they are Kobe. Or Cousins. Noel is a side piece. He isn't good enough to be causing these type of problems.

You said teams don't win with players like Noel (selfish players) on a team. It sounds like you're backtracking because that's a very different statement than saying that winning teams have players that make sacrifices. Regardless, Noel has made plenty of sacrifices - I listed some in my previous post.

He said he thinks he's too good to be playing 8 minutes a game. I think that's pretty reasonable and I agree with it. We don't know the whole story. Maybe he's been dealing with it privately for the past year and has lost faith in management's promises and feels he has no choice but to go public with his frustration.

There are no players on the Warriors better than Noel that average 8 minutes a game.

[Negrodamus]

He's literally played two games this season and is bitching about playing time. Let that sink in for a second. That's when we have guys like Okafor and Holmes who have been sacrificing all year and not raising a peep.

He has got to go. The dude is cancer. Get him off the team. I almost want to do what the Rockets did just to f with his career but we have other players who will be affected by his neg mindset. He is a loser. He will always be a loser. You don't win with players like Noel on a team.

The sad part is the contending teams you know the ones in need of a C who otherwise would be interested are asking themselves do I really want him on my team? What if I only have 20 minutes available to him will he be unhappy and blow up? We have a good thing going here I rather not have a ME first guy who is going to upset chemistry. All contending teams will be thinking the same thing. The only teams who are likely to be interested are those who are looking to buy low on a depressed asset because they lack assets of their own. BKN come to mind. Maybe SAC. These teams don't have much in the way of assets and they are unlikely to giveup their first round pick.

So yeah Nerlens Noel in quest to be traded has probably just made himself much harder to trade.

We don't know the whole story. For all we know the elective surgery was suggested by the team while they reassured him that they were working to clear up the logjam, either through trade, or using that time to evaluate the situation. Then he comes back and the problem still isn't solved. I think it's very reasonable for him to be upset with only getting 8 minutes last game if he thought he was healthy.

It's pretty unreasonable to call him a cancer and a loser. It's also pretty unreasonable to suggest that he's a "ME first guy". He's been pretty quiet and patient through the process era despite a ton of losing and some questionable decisions that directly impacted his future (drafting Okafor). The team has had about a year and a half to figure things out and Noel will likely suffer for it financially. He played out of position for a year, negatively impacting his stats and impacting the amount of money he'll get in free agency. After a year and a half of patience with the situation, it's pretty reasonable to stand up for his self interests.

Even if I were to concede that Noel is a selfish cancer, stating that you don't win with those types of players on a team is asinine. The Patriots for years have picked up disgruntled/problem talent and have remained successful (Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Albert Haynesworth, etc). Kobe was ridiculously selfish and more or less forced Shaq out of town. Talent trumps everything else.

It's also foolish to think contending teams wouldn't be interested. The Bulls signed Rondo, a known cancer, this offseason. Josh Smith got chances with the Rockets and Clippers. The Heat signed Dion Waiters. I'm sure there's countless other examples.

Did you listen to his press conference? He said I'm too good. This **** needs to get figured out. Did you hear anything about the team? Him being upset at the loss or the fact we aren't winning? ALL he is concerned about is his minutes that's the definition of me first in my book anyways. Maybe you have a different one. I suspect you'd have the same if the player was not named Noel.

Here's the thing almost every great team has players sacrificing. Bosh sacrificed on the heat. Love sacrificed on the Cavaliers. The GSW have Durant and have to share the ball with Curry, Green, Thompson, and have multiple players who could be starting for other teams.

And lets be honest those players are ALL better then Noel. Also, this isn't just me surmising this stuff Woj has literally came out with a tweet indicating the same thing. That's his reputation. Which is well deserved in my book. Then there is just the fact he isn't as good as he thinks. Teams will put up with that kind of **** because they are Kobe. Or Cousins. Noel is a side piece. He isn't good enough to be causing these type of problems.

It's a funny thing how if a player isn't modest about their self worth, they are a cancer. He is too good for 8 minutes. He put up historic defensive numbers for a big man's first 2 years in the league.

How many times did he say team? Who cares. If it comes out that he has created a schism on the team a la Terrell Owens, then I'll concede. Otherwise, it sounds like Embiid would RATHER play with Nerlens because he doesn't think Okafor can play a lick of defense.

Then you list a group of players who all play 25+ minutes per game making sacrifices. Nerlens has been sacrificing the first 2 years of his career by playing with hot garbage. Then he goes through this whole ordeal to be given 8 minutes in his first game back completely healthy. It's ridiculous to do that to him. No one is arguing that Nerlens is better than those players you mentions, but I bet everyone will argue that he's better than 8 minutes on the worst team in the league.

[Ericb5]

It is a true statement that Noel is too good to play 8 minutes. We all agree that he should be unhappy with his situation.

It's that he is throwing a grenade into the locker room, and is making a conscience decision to do this to express his anger. He is hurting himself, and hurting the team.

Okafor is in a bad situation too, but he is handling himself like a professional.


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[Negrodamus]

It is a true statement that Noel is too good to play 8 minutes. We all agree that he should be unhappy with his situation.

It's that he is throwing a grenade into the locker room, and is making a conscience decision to do this to express his anger. He is hurting himself, and hurting the team.

Okafor is in a bad situation too, but he is handling himself like a professional.


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27 mpg over the last three while averaging 8 shots per game. I mean, it's not really as bad of a situation.

The main point that Nerlens makes is that he's not blaming players or coaches for this. He believes that Okafor and Embiid also deserve more time. He's disappointed that the situation is a thing to begin with. I cannot imagine Hinkie planned on having all three for this long. Hell, I didn't expect this to happen. It doesn't make sense and it kills Okafor's and Noel's value.

Can you imagine if they over hired your position at your workplace and you just hung out while everyone else worked. Might sound nice to some, but what if your performance determines how much you make your next contract? You best believe I'd be livid if they aren't using my skills at all.

[Mik317]

I am torn.

On one hand....you don't do this after one game bro. I thought it was a stupid decision too (especially since Ersan and Saric were playng like ass; AND the fact that Noel is the perfect small ball center) but yeah too soon...and a bad look since there are a lot of guys being dealt a bad hand (Saric at the 3 for example). Jah for all the hate he's recieved has been a good soldier doing whatever is asked of him (except play defense herp derp).

on the other hand, this is the very problem we all knew we'd have. The whole point of taking all the bigs was in case Embiid never recovered. Welp. Someone had to go in the offseason (or ideally you don't draft Okafor at all...but hey past history right)...and once that did not happen, we have this issue. Noel is only saying the obvious. And if you put yourself in his shoes, they are **** with his money. I know fans don't like to hear that but these dudes are human and I am certain you'd be a bit miffed too, if people are **** you over after years of loyalty despite **** ery, and while you made some noise, you were still willing to try, only to still get owned with decisions that in the end don't benefit no one......its a problem.

As stated in another thread, I am glad he spoke up..if only to get our GM to actually do something and improve the team...At this point addition by subtraction is fine. This whole season is about developing our guys...we are now currently negatively effecting multiple players...and that is bad.

Hinkie has a role to play in this (whether or not he was forced to make these choices or not) but I have a sinking feeling that if he was still here, things would be a lot louder than they are...so at the very least Noel being butthurt will hopefully lead to actual changes.

[Negrodamus]

I am torn.

On one hand....you don't do this after one game bro. I thought it was a stupid decision too (especially since Ersan and Saric were playng like ass; AND the fact that Noel is the perfect small ball center) but yeah too soon...and a bad look since there are a lot of guys being dealt a bad hand (Saric at the 3 for example). Jah for all the hate he's recieved has been a good soldier doing whatever is asked of him (except play defense herp derp).

on the other hand, this is the very problem we all knew we'd have. The whole point of taking all the bigs was in case Embiid never recovered. Welp. Someone had to go in the offseason (or ideally you don't draft Okafor at all...but hey past history right)...and once that did not happen, we have this issue. Noel is only saying the obvious. And if you put yourself in his shoes, they are **** with his money. I know fans don't like to hear that but these dudes are human and I am certain you'd be a bit miffed too, if people are **** you over after years of loyalty despite **** ery, and while you made some noise, you were still willing to try, only to still get owned with decisions that in the end don't benefit no one......its a problem.

As stated in another thread, I am glad he spoke up..if only to get our GM to actually do something and improve the team...At this point addition by subtraction is fine. This whole season is about developing our guys...we are now currently negatively effecting multiple players...and that is bad.

Hinkie has a role to play in this (whether or not he was forced to make these choices or not) but I have a sinking feeling that if he was still here, things would be a lot louder than they are...so at the very least Noel being butthurt will hopefully lead to actual changes.

I think one of them would have been traded by now. In fact, the whole reason he stepped down was because he was losing control with Father Colangelo and they were attempting to reduce his role more. I don't think we would have entered this past draft with all three of our centers, but that's just my opinion.

[CptCrunch]

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In the doghouse, that is where he is.

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Anyone know why? What's going on?

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What in the world?

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BC is upset he got called out in the media repeatedly. So he told Brett to bench his ***. That, or BB is an idiot, one or the other.