Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[OFWGKTA]

Why does everyone on here keep thinking they are getting Noel for Rozier?

"Everyone" aka 1 person, bet I could go over to your board and find multiple that say Noel's off the table unless the BRK17 is coming back

[Captain_Caveman]

Why does everyone on here keep thinking they are getting Noel for Rozier?

Why does everyone in Philly think the Sixers will match a big offer sheet for their 5th best big man prospect?

[claycarver]

Why does everyone on here keep thinking they are getting Noel for Rozier?

Why does everyone in Philly think the Sixers will match a big offer sheet for their 5th best big man prospect?

I could see them forcing a sign and trade.

I mean, what else are they going to do with the money if not match? They've got plenty of room for Ilyasova. They need to hit the floor and Noel's contract will come off the books before their two 2017 picks come due. They could always trade him away later if no one bites on the sign and trade.

It would be a slap in Noel's face and I'd expect him to be pissed, but they do have the control.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Melo is leaving NY with tears in his eyes and it will be Phil's fault, that was what that meeting was about today. It might not happen because there isn't an offer out there good enough from a team he is willing to go to. But I almost guarantee that meeting was about and went exactly the opposite as it was reported.

I think that's right. Either waive the no trade or you are benched indefinitely. When you get tired of not playing we can discuss a buyout.

Signing Melo to that huge contract was Phil's fault. Now he's trying to rectify the mistake.

Melo is still his best player. Everyone is acting its his game that is all of a sudden the problem. The problem is the rest of the roster that Phil has put around him sucks.

0-10 the past two season without Anthony in the line up. 7-35 the year before.

Phil Jackson and his 4 coaches in two and half seasons does not know what he is doing.

Man I just woke up, I can't write out all my thoughts on the problems with the Knicks.. You may be right about Phil/Melo, but that wasn't my first reaction.

[mwhis21]

I think that's right. Either waive the no trade or you are benched indefinitely. When you get tired of not playing we can discuss a buyout.

Signing Melo to that huge contract was Phil's fault. Now he's trying to rectify the mistake.

Melo is still his best player. Everyone is acting its his game that is all of a sudden the problem. The problem is the rest of the roster that Phil has put around him sucks.

0-10 the past two season without Anthony in the line up. 7-35 the year before.

Phil Jackson and his 4 coaches in two and half seasons does not know what he is doing.

Man I just woke up, I can't write out all my thoughts on the problems with the Knicks.. You may be right about Phil/Melo, but that wasn't my first reaction.

I actually disagree with you on them not knowing what they are doing...they just made the wrong choice but it was an understandable one.

They hit on KP and that was an unexpected event for the franchise. The decision was then made to build around Melo and KP. It's not that different than the C's hitting on Thomas. If Thomas doesn't blossom into a legit All-Star do the C's go after Horford? Do they sell and go full youth rebuild?

The debate is more about should they have built around KP vs. building around Melo. And that's fair. It's more than fair to question the Rose acquisition but he came pretty cheap.

In hindsight they should have gone full rebuild around KP but I don't blame them for trying to build something quick around Melo and KP. Just hasn't worked out.

[Renegade_H]

The Celtics, Ainge and Stevens have designs on Gordon Hayward next year. In order to get him the Celtics can't take on any salary for next year or additional cap holds. Celtics simply won't trade for Noel because of this reason no matter how much people talk about it.

If Hayward falls through and the Celtics love Noel then they will just offer him a max deal in July.

Sixers will match any deal for Noel. Dallas board is discussing a max for Noel as well.

You cant offer a max to noel. Jesus. If that is what it takes to get him, let him go. Why would the 76ers match thus guy? Dumbest franchise in NBA. Trade him and turn the asset over and invest in embiid.

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A 3 year max is not going to kill the Sixers. Maybe year 3 will be slightly difficult but we have 70M in cap space and even more as the years progress. If BB wants Noel on the team and not Okafor, we match.

And the dumbest franchise in NBA almost beat you the other day without their 1st overall pick this year. We aren't dumb. Just hold on because there is not point in trading him for scraps.

[Renegade_H]

Why does everyone on here keep thinking they are getting Noel for Rozier?

"Everyone" aka 1 person, bet I could go over to your board and find multiple that say Noel's off the table unless the BRK17 is coming back

Check your threads. Every person is trying to trade Rozier for Noel.

[Valid]

Sixers will match any deal for Noel. Dallas board is discussing a max for Noel as well.

You cant offer a max to noel. Jesus. If that is what it takes to get him, let him go. Why would the 76ers match thus guy? Dumbest franchise in NBA. Trade him and turn the asset over and invest in embiid.

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A 3 year max is not going to kill the Sixers. Maybe year 3 will be slightly difficult but we have 70M in cap space and even more as the years progress. If BB wants Noel on the team and not Okafor, we match.

And the dumbest franchise in NBA almost beat you the other day without their 1st overall pick this year. We aren't dumb. Just hold on because there is not point in trading him for scraps.

Here's what I don't understand: why would you offer a max deal to a guy whom you aren't even giving consistent minutes to? I mean, Noel has been frustrated with his playing time, and that is with Simmons still out. Once Simmons returns, his playing time will drop even further.

[Celts17Pride]

Why does everyone on here keep thinking they are getting Noel for Rozier?

"Everyone" aka 1 person, bet I could go over to your board and find multiple that say Noel's off the table unless the BRK17 is coming back

Check your threads. Every person is trying to trade Rozier for Noel.

Ainge is not trading Bradley, Smart or Crowder for Noel. That leaves Rozier and a draft pick as the most logical choice. Like I said before I don't believe Ainge is interested in Noel anyways. Why give Noel $17-20 million per year when you have Zizic coming over next year at $1.5 million?

[Renegade_H]

You cant offer a max to noel. Jesus. If that is what it takes to get him, let him go. Why would the 76ers match thus guy? Dumbest franchise in NBA. Trade him and turn the asset over and invest in embiid.

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A 3 year max is not going to kill the Sixers. Maybe year 3 will be slightly difficult but we have 70M in cap space and even more as the years progress. If BB wants Noel on the team and not Okafor, we match.

And the dumbest franchise in NBA almost beat you the other day without their 1st overall pick this year. We aren't dumb. Just hold on because there is not point in trading him for scraps.

Here's what I don't understand: why would you offer a max deal to a guy whom you aren't even giving consistent minutes to? I mean, Noel has been frustrated with his playing time, and that is with Simmons still out. Once Simmons returns, his playing time will drop even further.

Noel is strictly a 5. If we extend Noel and deal Okafor this offseason, he is splitting time with Embiid. And I dont see Embiid being a 30+ minute player on Sixers with a Noel backup. Saves Embiid from the hard minutes.

Simmons would be a positive impact on Noel. A true passer and scorer to open up lanes. Hes our PG like Giannis.

[SmartWentCrazy]

"Everyone" aka 1 person, bet I could go over to your board and find multiple that say Noel's off the table unless the BRK17 is coming back

Check your threads. Every person is trying to trade Rozier for Noel.

Ainge is not trading Bradley, Smart or Crowder for Noel. That leaves Rozier and a draft pick as the most logical choice. Like I said before I don't believe Ainge is interested in Noel anyways. Why give Noel $17-20 million per year when you have Zizic coming over next year at $1.5 million?

I disagree regarding Bradley. Three of the top 5 prospects in the draft would fit in very nicely as a 2 next to IT. We need to begin to seriously contemplate how Ball or Fultz or Jackson will fit our roster. The off guard spot is probably best for all of them.

With RFA cap holds still at 250% this offseason, we should be able to still maneuver max room with Noel easily. Trading Bradley for Noel and a pick would be a fantastic move for the franchise long term.

[jeremym480]

What would it take to get Ibaka from Orlando?

[wickerhd]

Hope that all the Noel backers realize that he will either be terribly limited in his first year with us or Stevens will need to totally revamp the offense. Right now, everyone has to be a threat at the three point line in order to give IT and Bradley the space they need to operate. That's why KO, even with all his faults, is a crunch time player more than Amir. Noel could certainly develop, but he would be a long term project with no help for us this year. If you want him, commit to a new offense and try to grab him in the off season.


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[165bows]

Why does everyone on here keep thinking they are getting Noel for Rozier?

"Everyone" aka 1 person, bet I could go over to your board and find multiple that say Noel's off the table unless the BRK17 is coming back

Check your threads. Every person is trying to trade Rozier for Noel.

It's because no one wants him that bad.

[OFWGKTA]

Hope that all the Noel backers realize that he will either be terribly limited in his first year with us or Stevens will need to totally revamp the offense. Right now, everyone has to be a threat at the three point line in order to give IT and Bradley the space they need to operate. That's why KO, even with all his faults, is a crunch time player more than Amir. Noel could certainly develop, but he would be a long term project with no help for us this year. If you want him, commit to a new offense and try to grab him in the off season.


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Amir is barely a 3 point threat, no one goes out to guard him. Having Noel take his minutes won't make much difference.

[Valid]

A 3 year max is not going to kill the Sixers. Maybe year 3 will be slightly difficult but we have 70M in cap space and even more as the years progress. If BB wants Noel on the team and not Okafor, we match.

And the dumbest franchise in NBA almost beat you the other day without their 1st overall pick this year. We aren't dumb. Just hold on because there is not point in trading him for scraps.

Here's what I don't understand: why would you offer a max deal to a guy whom you aren't even giving consistent minutes to? I mean, Noel has been frustrated with his playing time, and that is with Simmons still out. Once Simmons returns, his playing time will drop even further.

Noel is strictly a 5. If we extend Noel and deal Okafor this offseason, he is splitting time with Embiid. And I dont see Embiid being a 30+ minute player on Sixers with a Noel backup. Saves Embiid from the hard minutes.

Simmons would be a positive impact on Noel. A true passer and scorer to open up lanes. Hes our PG like Giannis.

Wouldn't you want Embiid getting 30+ minutes next season, though?

[Valid]

Hope that all the Noel backers realize that he will either be terribly limited in his first year with us or Stevens will need to totally revamp the offense. Right now, everyone has to be a threat at the three point line in order to give IT and Bradley the space they need to operate. That's why KO, even with all his faults, is a crunch time player more than Amir. Noel could certainly develop, but he would be a long term project with no help for us this year. If you want him, commit to a new offense and try to grab him in the off season.


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We wouldn't need to revamp our offense at all. As a matter of fact, Noel would add another dimension to the offense by providing Thomas with a reliable alley-oop partner on pick-and-rolls, something IT has never had here. A legitimate argument can be made that Noel would actually help with spacing in that case.

[Valid]

What would it take to get Ibaka from Orlando?

He wouldn't be worth it. The dude has been declining for several years now.

[Renegade_H]

Here's what I don't understand: why would you offer a max deal to a guy whom you aren't even giving consistent minutes to? I mean, Noel has been frustrated with his playing time, and that is with Simmons still out. Once Simmons returns, his playing time will drop even further.

Noel is strictly a 5. If we extend Noel and deal Okafor this offseason, he is splitting time with Embiid. And I dont see Embiid being a 30+ minute player on Sixers with a Noel backup. Saves Embiid from the hard minutes.

Simmons would be a positive impact on Noel. A true passer and scorer to open up lanes. Hes our PG like Giannis.

Wouldn't you want Embiid getting 30+ minutes next season, though?

Honestly, No. We are not out of the woods yet with Embiid. We are building great depth to keep our guys fresh.

If Embiid can get me 25 pts per 30, I'm very happy with Noel getting 20 minutes to keep that production up. Add Simmons to the mix and I think Noel can be a 14/8 guy at 20 minutes.

[OFWGKTA]

Noel is strictly a 5. If we extend Noel and deal Okafor this offseason, he is splitting time with Embiid. And I dont see Embiid being a 30+ minute player on Sixers with a Noel backup. Saves Embiid from the hard minutes.

Simmons would be a positive impact on Noel. A true passer and scorer to open up lanes. Hes our PG like Giannis.

Wouldn't you want Embiid getting 30+ minutes next season, though?

Honestly, No. We are not out of the woods yet with Embiid. We are building great depth to keep our guys fresh.

If Embiid can get me 25 pts per 30, I'm very happy with Noel getting 20 minutes to keep that production up. Add Simmons to the mix and I think Noel can be a 14/8 guy at 20 minutes.

You should just trade Embiid then if you think Noel is ever gonna put up 25/14.5 per 36