Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #2

[Smash3]

it was probably 289 instead of 286...simple typo. I agree with ill keep the draft moving.

but I don't see how hard it is to PM bish the trades. Gotta follow the rules.

Pretty sure he told us to post the trades ourselves in order to keep the draft rolling though

maybe continue to make picks but the picks thread is just for picks I believe not to announce trades. There have been 20 teams making deals first one to post in the thread. Just agree send you pic to the guy picking for you and then complete the trade after. I thought that was always how it was suppose to be done. Been doing it for the last 10 BAT's

Since I am not online 24/7 feel free to keep the draft moving when a pick is traded. No salaries need to match so unless you feel that your trade is controversial and could be questioned by the other GMs, if an OTC pick is traded, go ahead and make the pick and keep the draft moving.

Thanks j4remi for updating the draft thread!
All-Time Draft

[Mecca]

Nice recovery from Mecca...Dieng is pretty solid and the more reliable option, although Noel may have a little more upside if he can ever stay healthy and get consistent minutes

Yeah just a little bit

I love Noel, but they're on the same tier.

Timberwolves center Gorgui Dieng is 14th in the NBA in defensive real plus-minus. In real plus-minus, Dieng ranks 14th in the NBA and Wolves point guard Ricky Rubio is 54th. Zach LaVine, Andrew Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns all rank 330th or lower.

[El Poochio]

Noel rim protection numbers compared to Dieng is to simply put:



And only 1 draft spot between them, Knicksfan20, you know what to do here

[IllmaticHandler]

You knew Stats was coming with a Smash pick

[Smash3]

Nice recovery from Mecca...Dieng is pretty solid and the more reliable option, although Noel may have a little more upside if he can ever stay healthy and get consistent minutes

Yeah just a little bit

I love Noel, but they're on the same tier.

Timberwolves center Gorgui Dieng is 14th in the NBA in defensive real plus-minus. In real plus-minus, Dieng ranks 14th in the NBA and Wolves point guard Ricky Rubio is 54th. Zach LaVine, Andrew Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns all rank 330th or lower.

Bro, I'm going to chalk it up as you being dazed and confused after losing out on Noel but they're not on the same tier. They have similarities but Dieng isn't guarding the perimeter, playing the passing lanes, and anchoring bad defensive teams to middle of the pack in drtg.

[Mecca]

Yeah just a little bit

I love Noel, but they're on the same tier.

Timberwolves center Gorgui Dieng is 14th in the NBA in defensive real plus-minus. In real plus-minus, Dieng ranks 14th in the NBA and Wolves point guard Ricky Rubio is 54th. Zach LaVine, Andrew Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns all rank 330th or lower.

Bro, I'm going to chalk it up as you being dazed and confused after losing out on Dieng but they're not on the same tier. They have similarities but Dieng isn't guarding the perimeter, playing the passing lanes, and anchoring bad defensive teams to middle of the pack in drtg.

See, I didn't say a bad thing about Noel, but since you wanted to chime in on Dieng.

- Noel is scrawny as hell. At Center he gets bodied by bigger 5's. When I was going to pick him, I was going to have to move Bari to the 3.

- Noel hasn't even been good this year.

- Noel is injury prone.

- Dieng is a bigger body that can play more physical defense and bang in the paint.

- Dieng has more of an offensive game and mid range jumper.

- Dieng is more of a higher IQ player.



Just know you brought this on yourself when I didn't say a bad word about Noel. There's a reason why he dropped to the middle of the 4th round.

[bishnykfan]

Pretty sure he told us to post the trades ourselves in order to keep the draft rolling though

maybe continue to make picks but the picks thread is just for picks I believe not to announce trades. There have been 20 teams making deals first one to post in the thread. Just agree send you pic to the guy picking for you and then complete the trade after. I thought that was always how it was suppose to be done. Been doing it for the last 10 BAT's

Since I am not online 24/7 feel free to keep the draft moving when a pick is traded. No salaries need to match so unless you feel that your trade is controversial and could be questioned by the other GMs, if an OTC pick is traded, go ahead and make the pick and keep the draft moving.

Thanks j4remi for updating the draft thread!
All-Time Draft

Yeah like I said via PM, keep the draft moving if a trade is completed but please still PM me the details so I can write it up and keep the draft thread clean.

Also make sure that the pick numbers are right when agreeing to a trade!

[bringbackhoffa]

Willing to trade 113, make it worth while. Do not just want pick swaps, want it to be HUUUGEE, and include Players from both sides

[Mecca]

Whenever Smash makes a pick

[mpharris36]

Willing to trade 113, make it worth while. Do not just want pick swaps, want it to be HUUUGEE, and include Players

this dude is on drugs

[mpharris36]

Pretty sure he told us to post the trades ourselves in order to keep the draft rolling though

maybe continue to make picks but the picks thread is just for picks I believe not to announce trades. There have been 20 teams making deals first one to post in the thread. Just agree send you pic to the guy picking for you and then complete the trade after. I thought that was always how it was suppose to be done. Been doing it for the last 10 BAT's

Since I am not online 24/7 feel free to keep the draft moving when a pick is traded. No salaries need to match so unless you feel that your trade is controversial and could be questioned by the other GMs, if an OTC pick is traded, go ahead and make the pick and keep the draft moving.

Thanks j4remi for updating the draft thread!
All-Time Draft

I think he means the person currently OTC makes the pick and the trade is completed afterwords.

I think that is what Bish meant by that. It's how we have dealt with every trade before.

[Smash3]

I love Noel, but they're on the same tier.

Bro, I'm going to chalk it up as you being dazed and confused after losing out on Dieng but they're not on the same tier. They have similarities but Dieng isn't guarding the perimeter, playing the passing lanes, and anchoring bad defensive teams to middle of the pack in drtg.

See, I didn't say a bad thing about Noel, but since you wanted to chime in on Dieng.

- Noel is scrawny as hell. At Center he gets bodied by bigger 5's. When I was going to pick him, I was going to have to move Bari to the 3.

- Noel hasn't even been good this year.

- Noel is injury prone.

- Dieng is a bigger body that can play more physical defense and bang in the paint.

- Dieng has more of an offensive game and mid range jumper.

- Dieng is more of a higher IQ player.



Just know you brought this on yourself when I didn't say a bad word about Noel. There's a reason why he dropped to the middle of the 4th round.

Ah.. Good thing you didn't move up to draft such a terrible player

[Mecca]

Bro, I'm going to chalk it up as you being dazed and confused after losing out on Dieng but they're not on the same tier. They have similarities but Dieng isn't guarding the perimeter, playing the passing lanes, and anchoring bad defensive teams to middle of the pack in drtg.

See, I didn't say a bad thing about Noel, but since you wanted to chime in on Dieng.

- Noel is scrawny as hell. At Center he gets bodied by bigger 5's. When I was going to pick him, I was going to have to move Bari to the 3.

- Noel hasn't even been good this year.

- Noel is injury prone.

- Dieng is a bigger body that can play more physical defense and bang in the paint.

- Dieng has more of an offensive game and mid range jumper.

- Dieng is more of a higher IQ player.



Just know you brought this on yourself when I didn't say a bad word about Noel. There's a reason why he dropped to the middle of the 4th round.

Ah.. Good thing you didn't move up to draft such a terrible player

Again, I said twice that I love Noel, but he isn't without flaws. There's a reason why he's available in the mid 4th round. If you didn't chime in on your thoughts on Dieng, I wouldn't be so blunt. Both are on the same tier, and that's not really debatable in a 1 year BAT.

[IllmaticHandler]

I been trying to trade for this player since Sat and Finally put my self in position to grab him yesterday. Basketball Gods...Dont Mecca me...I won't be able to adjust...lol

[Smash3]

See, I didn't say a bad thing about Noel, but since you wanted to chime in on Dieng.

- Noel is scrawny as hell. At Center he gets bodied by bigger 5's. When I was going to pick him, I was going to have to move Bari to the 3.

- Noel hasn't even been good this year.

- Noel is injury prone.

- Dieng is a bigger body that can play more physical defense and bang in the paint.

- Dieng has more of an offensive game and mid range jumper.

- Dieng is more of a higher IQ player.



Just know you brought this on yourself when I didn't say a bad word about Noel. There's a reason why he dropped to the middle of the 4th round.

Ah.. Good thing you didn't move up to draft such a terrible player

Again, I said twice that I love Noel, but he isn't without flaws. There's a reason why he's available in the mid 4th round. If you didn't chime in on your thoughts on Dieng, I wouldn't be so blunt. Both are on the same tier, and that's not really debatable in a 1 year BAT.

[IllmaticHandler]

I even had the selection gif open in a tab for two days straight.

[Mecca]

Ah.. Good thing you didn't move up to draft such a terrible player

Again, I said twice that I love Noel, but he isn't without flaws. There's a reason why he's available in the mid 4th round. If you didn't chime in on your thoughts on Dieng, I wouldn't be so blunt. Both are on the same tier, and that's not really debatable in a 1 year BAT.

But there are multiple people in this thread saying Dieng>Noel

[Deeeez Knicks]

Nice recovery from Mecca...Dieng is pretty solid and the more reliable option, although Noel may have a little more upside if he can ever stay healthy and get consistent minutes

Yeah just a little bit

so now he is the greatest defensive player since David Robinson?

I liek Noel. He can rack up the blocks and steals, but he has his flaws and needs some work. He needs to get stronger. Dude gets pushed around in the post, doesnt have much offensive game, and is pretty fragile.

Just talking about a 1 year BAT I would still say Dieng is more reliable.

[Smash3]

Again, I said twice that I love Noel, but he isn't without flaws. There's a reason why he's available in the mid 4th round. If you didn't chime in on your thoughts on Dieng, I wouldn't be so blunt. Both are on the same tier, and that's not really debatable in a 1 year BAT.

But there are multiple people in this thread saying Dieng>Noel

Basically you and Ill, Deez pointed out that Dieng is the more reliable option which is true. But they're not on the same level, not even close.

[br7knicks]

Noel is better and has a chance to be really good, like Tyson in his prime. But dieng is older, smarter, and more reliable to playing a game, long term