Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[DorfonCeltics]

Tyson Chandler is who we need to go after. Shouldn't cost too much, and would solve our biggest problem..

He would move the needle, we would pass Raps, and play in the ECF.

I'm starting to think Tyson is by far the best fit with this team. He brings everything we lack and championship pedigree. Sign me up. Who cares about cap space at this point. Trade, draft and develop

[Darthlukey]

By the way, its been talked about before but can we trade the BKN 18 pick and put a protection on it. I don't think so, but I'm still wondering. Would love to get Whiteside, but I doubt Riley trades with us.

You are correct, picks that are from another team cannot be changed/protected. They can only be traded in their original form (think the LAL pick that went to PHO and then to PHI)

[jirrit]

**** is wild. Can't even rag on people for speculating but I may just have to peace out of this thread until the deadline. Frustrating to read this stuff that will never happen.

But, hey, for old time's sake:

**** Love

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#NOCUZ

SAY NO

TO

MELO

hey truth, is there anyone left in the league you'd say yes to?

[cl2117]

Chandler is too short sighted. You risk too much based on his age and contract. He could be an albatross with a major injury and you'll have a cap space blocker AND you're going to struggle to trade him without paying a relatively healthy price a la Gerald Wallace.

That's the worst case scenario. Best case scenario we end up in ECF and lose to Cleveland.

I don't think the best outcome is worth the risk of the worst outcome.

I'm still driving the Bogut train, but I'd be open to guys with multiple years left provided they're risk level is lower than Chandler, but price to acquire is similar (Nurkic, Vucevic, Faried, O'Quinn, Okafor, Koufos). Ideally grab an expiring though: Randolph, Ibaka, Mirotic?

There's a lot of names out there, I think Ainge can find someone giving us a boost this year while still not risking our future flexibility too much.

[165bows]

By the way, its been talked about before but can we trade the BKN 18 pick and put a protection on it. I don't think so, but I'm still wondering. Would love to get Whiteside, but I doubt Riley trades with us.

You are correct, picks that are from another team cannot be changed/protected. They can only be traded in their original form (think the LAL pick that went to PHO and then to PHI)

This used to be true until the new CBA as of a month ago or so. They can now have protections altered or added in a subsequent trade. I'll post a link in a bit.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

By the way, its been talked about before but can we trade the BKN 18 pick and put a protection on it. I don't think so, but I'm still wondering. Would love to get Whiteside, but I doubt Riley trades with us.

You are correct, picks that are from another team cannot be changed/protected. They can only be traded in their original form (think the LAL pick that went to PHO and then to PHI)

They changed the rules over the summer. Danny can trade that 2018 Nets pick and slap top 3 protection on it if he wants.

[TheOGJabroni]

Cleveland in: Melo & Bradley
Cleveland out: Love

New York in: Zeller, Jerebko, Boston 18 1st, Memphis 19 1st
New York out: Melo

Boston in: Love
Boston out: Bradley, Zeller, Jerebko, Boston 18 1st, Memphis 19 1st

I think something needs to be taken away from Cleveland to make salaries work (X player would go to NY who can adsorb salary in this trade)

C's or NYK would have to take Shumpert.

He could probably make sense in NY. I think fans liked him there and they don't really have a great option there anyway.

[truth18]

**** is wild. Can't even rag on people for speculating but I may just have to peace out of this thread until the deadline. Frustrating to read this stuff that will never happen.

But, hey, for old time's sake:

**** Love

nogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallonogallo

#NOCUZ

SAY NO

TO

MELO

hey truth, is there anyone left in the league you'd say yes to?

For sure! AD. Jimmy for the right price, Noel for the right price. Hayward (a bit on the fence on him though). I really wanted KD here despite thinking he's a beta. I'd love to aquire Westbrook somehow.

[Gomes3PC]

Tyson Chandler is who we need to go after. Shouldn't cost too much, and would solve our biggest problem..

He would move the needle, we would pass Raps, and play in the ECF.

I'm starting to think Tyson is by far the best fit with this team. He brings everything we lack and championship pedigree. Sign me up. Who cares about cap space at this point. Trade, draft and develop

He's a guy you acquire in the offseason if the home run swing moves fail (ie, wooing Blake/Hayward/Durant (last is a prayer not a reality)).

[CelticsPride18]

Brown/Bradley/2018 Nets pick and Memphis pick for Butler. KO and Clippers pick for Nurkic.

[Banks2Pierce]

Boston IN: Butler
Boston OUT: Bradley, Jaylen, 2018 BKN(top 2 protected, converts to MEM and BOS 2018 if not conveyed), LAC 1st

Chicago IN: Jaylen, Okafor, lower of PHI 2017 1sts(top 10 is almost guaranteed), 2018 BKN(protections above), LAC 1st
Chicago OUT: Butler

Philly IN: Bradley
Philly OUT: Okafor, lower of their 2017 1sts

[Darth Celtic]

Brown/Bradley/2018 Nets pick and Memphis pick for Butler. KO and Clippers pick for Nurkic.

You are not allowed to post Nuggets related trade ideas in this thread. Skywalker could be near at anytime.

[cellar-door]

I am ready for the rage:

IT
Crowder
Jackson
Mickey
BKN 18

For

Butler
Portis

We get a 2 way star, and we get a high potential rebounding big to give bench minutes to. We've talked to death how our defense is great without IT and terrible with him but we have to play him because nobody can create their own shot so the offense has similar splits. This would make us one of the elite defensive teams in the league, and while our offense probably wouldn't be top 5 anymore, it would be above average and have a go-to scorer. It also sets up nicely to draft one of the top PG prospects this year, and alleviates some of the questions about who gets extended of the 2018 guards. I think it probably makes us better short term, but it's also more of a long term bid, as with the BKN pick, Zizic, FA signings and extensions this sets up a 4-5 year window to make a run as an elite defensive team.

For CHI.... this is probably Butler's value, he's a 2 way star, they get a 1 way star, a solid role player (both of whom can shoot something they desperately need) some prospects and a probable top 5 pick. If he's forcing his way out of town this is probably the best package they can get without a full teardown (tough for them with so many vets).

[OFWGKTA]

I am ready for the rage:

IT
Crowder
Jackson
Mickey
BKN 18

For

Butler
Portis

We get a 2 way star, and we get a high potential rebounding big to give bench minutes to. We've talked to death how our defense is great without IT and terrible with him but we have to play him because nobody can create their own shot so the offense has similar splits. This would make us one of the elite defensive teams in the league, and while our offense probably wouldn't be top 5 anymore, it would be above average and have a go-to scorer. It also sets up nicely to draft one of the top PG prospects this year, and alleviates some of the questions about who gets extended of the 2018 guards. I think it probably makes us better short term, but it's also more of a long term bid, as with the BKN pick, Zizic, FA signings and extensions this sets up a 4-5 year window to make a run as an elite defensive team.

For CHI.... this is probably Butler's value, he's a 2 way star, they get a 1 way star, a solid role player (both of whom can shoot something they desperately need) some prospects and a probable top 5 pick. If he's forcing his way out of town this is probably the best package they can get without a full teardown (tough for them with so many vets).

That's a massive overpay

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Paul George >>> Jimmy Butler. He's younger and is more capable of playing the 4 spot than Crowder or Butler. PG just about beat the Raptors by himself last year in the playoffs. He's not looking that great this season because Bird erred in hiring Nate McMillan (Pacers wanted more offense but hired a coach known for his defense). Put Paul George in Stevens' system and that team will wreak havoc.

PG13 will cost a lot, but I think he's more attainable than what Butler would cost, especially if he doesn't sign an extension this summer. Bird would gladly take Brown, Bradley, Smart and one Nets pick IMO. The Bulls will insist on both Nets picks.

[bulliedog8]

Paul George >>> Jimmy Butler. He's younger and is more capable of playing the 4 spot than Crowder or Butler. PG just about beat the Raptors by himself last year in the playoffs. He's not looking that great this season because Bird erred in hiring Nate McMillan (Pacers wanted more offense but hired a coach known for his defense). Put Paul George in Stevens' system and that team will wreak havoc.

PG13 will cost a lot, but I think he's more attainable than what Butler would cost, especially if he doesn't sign an extension this summer. Bird would gladly take Brown, Bradley, Smart and one Nets pick IMO. The Bulls will insist on both Nets picks.

Butler is 6 months older than PG. And PG13 already said he hates playing the 4.

But I agree PG13 might be easier to get. The Bulls front office is a joke and would want half the celtics roster and picks for butler.

[Green89]

Chandler is too short sighted. You risk too much based on his age and contract. He could be an albatross with a major injury and you'll have a cap space blocker AND you're going to struggle to trade him without paying a relatively healthy price a la Gerald Wallace.

That's the worst case scenario. Best case scenario we end up in ECF and lose to Cleveland.

I don't think the best outcome is worth the risk of the worst outcome.

I'm still driving the Bogut train, but I'd be open to guys with multiple years left provided they're risk level is lower than Chandler, but price to acquire is similar (Nurkic, Vucevic, Faried, O'Quinn, Okafor, Koufos). Ideally grab an expiring though: Randolph, Ibaka, Mirotic?

There's a lot of names out there, I think Ainge can find someone giving us a boost this year while still not risking our future flexibility too much.

You only go for Chandler after we landed a Butler or a George. That's getting our free agent at the trade deadline instead of the summer, so we wouldn't be as concerned with his cap hold. He's a final piece after landing someone big.

[OFWGKTA]

Knicks reached out to the Celtics on Melo:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-besides-cavs-knicks-reached-out-to-celtics-clippers-about-melo-deal-171840928.html

[ddb]

I am ready for the rage:

IT
Crowder
Jackson
Mickey
BKN 18

For

Butler
Portis

We get a 2 way star, and we get a high potential rebounding big to give bench minutes to. We've talked to death how our defense is great without IT and terrible with him but we have to play him because nobody can create their own shot so the offense has similar splits. This would make us one of the elite defensive teams in the league, and while our offense probably wouldn't be top 5 anymore, it would be above average and have a go-to scorer. It also sets up nicely to draft one of the top PG prospects this year, and alleviates some of the questions about who gets extended of the 2018 guards. I think it probably makes us better short term, but it's also more of a long term bid, as with the BKN pick, Zizic, FA signings and extensions this sets up a 4-5 year window to make a run as an elite defensive team.

For CHI.... this is probably Butler's value, he's a 2 way star, they get a 1 way star, a solid role player (both of whom can shoot something they desperately need) some prospects and a probable top 5 pick. If he's forcing his way out of town this is probably the best package they can get without a full teardown (tough for them with so many vets).

get..............the.....................F...........................out

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Paul George >>> Jimmy Butler. He's younger and is more capable of playing the 4 spot than Crowder or Butler. PG just about beat the Raptors by himself last year in the playoffs. He's not looking that great this season because Bird erred in hiring Nate McMillan (Pacers wanted more offense but hired a coach known for his defense). Put Paul George in Stevens' system and that team will wreak havoc.

PG13 will cost a lot, but I think he's more attainable than what Butler would cost, especially if he doesn't sign an extension this summer. Bird would gladly take Brown, Bradley, Smart and one Nets pick IMO. The Bulls will insist on both Nets picks.

Butler is 6 months older than PG. And PG13 already said he hates playing the 4.

But I agree PG13 might be easier to get. The Bulls front office is a joke and would want half the celtics roster and picks for butler.

That's true that he does hate playing the 4. I'd hope he'd have a change of heart since the 4 spot in Stevens' system would have him out in the perimeter more. And wow, didn't realize that Butler was only 6 months older. If Ainge could get either player, I'd be happy. It all comes down to the cost for me. Whoever would come cheaper would be the one I'd roll with.