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Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis

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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#641 » by Greenie » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:10 pm

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duetta wrote:Again, remember the Ewing trade. The Knicks got picks in that one as well, while taking back stiffs. The picks mattered little. I just don't want bad contracts for a player who can be off our cap in 15 months.

It was already said we not taking back no average players with mid level deals. Just young guys, picks, or legit starters.

But you think Melo is washed. Take that 2nd and run
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#642 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:10 pm

duetta wrote:Again, remember the Ewing trade. The Knicks got picks in that one as well, while taking back stiffs. The picks mattered little. I just don't want bad contracts for a player who can be off our cap in 15 months.


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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#643 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:10 pm

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K P 6 wrote:Greenie right now. she wants to keep seeing this man waste his years not winning while holind us back.

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Shut up. Melo ain't holding nothing back. His contract is solid too. Gordon going sign for 230...

I think he's holding back a fresh start. The Melo era is over. We won 1 playoff series with him.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#644 » by KnicksChamps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:11 pm

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delvec19 wrote:The sooner we get going on an actual rebuild the better. No one will ever trade for Noah. Think Jerome James all over again. Almost Eddy Curry bad.

With KP with bird rights, Melo gone, Rose gone. We'll have more than enough cap. It was a mistake, he can be the overpaid Vet cheer leading.


Let's not underestimate that this man was DPOY, and is a fierce competitor. Having his bum azz rooting from the bench and showing fire and desire is far from the worst possible scenario. The contract happened, it sucks. Its in the past. Nobody else will trade for him. Let's just move forward already!
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#645 » by DOT » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:11 pm

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It's not a win for us.

We look stupid yet again.


if the melo deal gets us into the top 5 in the draft we don't look stupid.


The Melo dark cloud that's hovering over the franchise is doing a good job of leading us in that direction right now. The team is demoralized and distracted. We look like the absolute worst team in the league right now. A roster shakeup could actually spark some life back into the team.

I'd like a team with some life right about now
Isn't that what Noah's for?
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Re: Melo destination 

Post#646 » by Yodi2007 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:11 pm

Polk377 wrote:James Dolan has to step in and put his foot in Phils ass if he tries to trade Melo for JJ Reddick and Jamal Crawford. Why are we settling in this situation? Melo is still a huge asset and if teams are not willing to trade quality assets back for him then hold on to him until the off season.


Melo is nooo "HUGE" asset! Move him and his salary, before he poisons the well any further there in the NYC! Hell we couldn't even move him for Love....freaking Kevin Love!
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#647 » by Greenie » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

boomann21 wrote:The Clippers do not have any picks for this upcoming draft?

Doc doesn't like draft picks
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Re: Melo destination 

Post#648 » by Polk377 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

Melo and KOQ for Nets 1st, Brown or Smart, Jerebko and Amir Johnson and maybe a future 2nd. That should be the trade that gets done. Knicks get a top 3 pick, a young piece and expiring contracts to help reset. Boston gets Melo without giving up any of there stars and get a quality backup in KOQ.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#649 » by poeman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

DievsZingis wrote:Heard the news and got ready this morning like....

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Even the boys from my mother's village back home who became Knicks fans when she gave them 1994 Finals Champion T-Shirts, were celebrating with song and dance, say we're gonna go from having the 4th pick to being the number one team.....haha...they're crazy, have no patience...typical Knicks fans.

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It's a good day. For the first time in my life, I am not concerned about getting somebody elses trash in false hope of something good....the Currys, Marburys, Francis', Tmacs, Pennys......siigggghhhh.....feels good.


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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#650 » by DOT » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

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delvec19 wrote:The sooner we get going on an actual rebuild the better. No one will ever trade for Noah. Think Jerome James all over again. Almost Eddy Curry bad.

With KP with bird rights, Melo gone, Rose gone. We'll have more than enough cap. It was a mistake, he can be the overpaid Vet cheer leading.


Let's not underestimate that this man was DPOY, and is a fierce competitor. Having his bum azz rooting from the bench and showing fire and desire is far from the worst possible scenario. The contract happened, it sucks. Its in the past. Nobody else will trade for him. Let's just move forward already!

Plus its not like we're gonna sign anyone anyways
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#651 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

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delvec19 wrote:The sooner we get going on an actual rebuild the better. No one will ever trade for Noah. Think Jerome James all over again. Almost Eddy Curry bad.

With KP with bird rights, Melo gone, Rose gone. We'll have more than enough cap. It was a mistake, he can be the overpaid Vet cheer leading.


Let's not underestimate that this man was DPOY, and is a fierce competitor. Having his bum azz rooting from the bench and showing fire and desire is far from the worst possible scenario. The contract happened, it sucks. Its in the past. Nobody else will trade for him. Let's just move forward already!

I can see him coming in with some fire in some games. Just not starting.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#652 » by ozwizard8 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 pm

shmeakone wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't want that disgusting Clippers package? Rather just keep Melo instead of watching depressing basketball for the next 2-3 years of Austin Rivers at the helm. He is what he is, he's not going to be a anything more than a 16 PPG scorer.

Love or Griffin please. Or a Celtics package of young players/picks.

What if Clips are willing to trade 2020-2022 picks + switching rigt for 2021 pick?
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#653 » by AmazingJason » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 pm

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SMAC-K wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
if the melo deal gets us into the top 5 in the draft we don't look stupid.


The Melo dark cloud that's hovering over the franchise is doing a good job of leading us in that direction right now. The team is demoralized and distracted. We look like the absolute worst team in the league right now. A roster shakeup could actually spark some life back into the team.

I'd like a team with some life right about now
Isn't that what Noah's for?
FOH


Noah plays like the life got completely sucked out of him :D
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#654 » by Greenie » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 pm

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K P 6 wrote:
delvec19 wrote:The sooner we get going on an actual rebuild the better. No one will ever trade for Noah. Think Jerome James all over again. Almost Eddy Curry bad.

With KP with bird rights, Melo gone, Rose gone. We'll have more than enough cap. It was a mistake, he can be the overpaid Vet cheer leading.


Let's not underestimate that this man was DPOY, and is a fierce competitor. Having his bum azz rooting from the bench and showing fire and desire is far from the worst possible scenario. The contract happened, it sucks. Its in the past. Nobody else will trade for him. Let's just move forward already!

We can't basically do the same for Melo? Hell, he's actually productive.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#655 » by boomann21 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 pm

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boomann21 wrote:The Clippers do not have any picks for this upcoming draft?

Doc doesn't like draft picks


Then I think we should deal with Boston. They have more young prospects and picks and I'll take Jae Crowder too.
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#656 » by DOT » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:13 pm

K P 6 wrote:
KnicksChamps wrote:
K P 6 wrote:With KP with bird rights, Melo gone, Rose gone. We'll have more than enough cap. It was a mistake, he can be the overpaid Vet cheer leading.


Let's not underestimate that this man was DPOY, and is a fierce competitor. Having his bum azz rooting from the bench and showing fire and desire is far from the worst possible scenario. The contract happened, it sucks. Its in the past. Nobody else will trade for him. Let's just move forward already!

I can see him coming in with some fire in some games. Just not starting.

Start Willy, let Noah beast off the bench
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#657 » by Governor Dudley » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 pm

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Re: Melo destination 

Post#658 » by Yodi2007 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 pm

BeagleBoss wrote:Melo for Crowder or Smart or Jaylen Brown plus expiring contracts and picks is fair.


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Post#659 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 pm

Boston we'll thow in Courtnee lee if you give up that pick. lol
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Re: Carmelo #3: Vertical: Knicks want to trade Melo and build around Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#660 » by DOT » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 pm

AmazingJason wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
The Melo dark cloud that's hovering over the franchise is doing a good job of leading us in that direction right now. The team is demoralized and distracted. We look like the absolute worst team in the league right now. A roster shakeup could actually spark some life back into the team.

I'd like a team with some life right about now
Isn't that what Noah's for?
FOH


Noah plays like the life got completely sucked out of him :D

I at least expected him to come out swinging most games
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