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ArizonaBullsFan · Post #201 » by **ArizonaBullsFan** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:00 am

madvillian wrote:
ArizonaBullsFan wrote:LOL at Niko and Portis making folks look silly for the posts on the first 5 pages of this thread.

what has portis done? in a 1.5 quarter sample? come on man.

7 minutes, he had 4 rebounds and an assist. Pretty good for a guy who "isn't an NBA player".

Hangtime84 · Post #202 » by **Hangtime84** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:00 am

Omg that Wade ball fake got 3 people

wrecking bulls · Post #203 » by **wrecking bulls** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:02 am

Damn, why dont we trade for Ilyasova!? He would be a great fit

BigUps · Post #204 » by **BigUps** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:03 am

Actually, what got them back in the game Stacey was the starters coming back in and slowing the game down.

chrispatrick · Post #205 » by **chrispatrick** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:03 am

ArizonaBullsFan wrote:
madvillian wrote:
ArizonaBullsFan wrote:LOL at Niko and Portis making folks look silly for the posts on the first 5 pages of this thread.

what has portis done? in a 1.5 quarter sample? come on man.

7 minutes, he had 4 rebounds and an assist. Pretty good for a guy who "isn't an NBA player".

He is not an NBA player... not nearly enough offense for the liability on defense.

FriedRise · Post #206 » by **FriedRise** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:04 am

Ilyasova is such an annoying player.

weneeda2guard · Post #207 » by **weneeda2guard** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:04 am

I would say the sixers without embiid coming back from 20 and winning would be the nail in the coffin for hoiberg, but he has had about 12 embarrassing losses that should have canned him and he still here so, whatever smh

jimmy_smith · Post #208 » by **jimmy_smith** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:05 am

Andddddddd we're gonna lose the lead.

nomorezorro · Post #209 » by **nomorezorro** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:07 am

the classic rondo-for-lopez defensive sub

Bulls03 · Post #210 » by **Bulls03** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:07 am

How do we get illyasova

Post #211 » by **kulaz3000** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:08 am

wrecking bulls wrote:Damn, why dont we trade for Ilyasova!? He would be a great fit

This isn't really an attack on you, but it's a pet peeve on mine when people want a particular player when they are playing well but you hardly hear about wanting said player when they are playing badly. When a player is playing well, of course teams want them, that's why it's difficult to get them because why would the team want to trade away a player who is playing well for them?

I mean, it's human nature of course, and I'm sure I do it too, but it does irk me at times for some reason. Now we had more trade ideas going for players in slumps or who aren't being played but clearly has some talent that isn't being utilized, like maybe WCS, then that would be more realistic.

The Sixers are somewhat void of talent as is, they aren't going to trade someone like Ersan unless we give them a big return, which we shouldn't be doing for a player like him.

BigUps · Post #212 » by **BigUps** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:09 am

Good defense there by Jimmy, Zipser and Wade. Nice half of basketball for us!

Mk0 · Post #213 » by **Mk0** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:12 am

I just pulled up the game and the GT, is James Francostein going full Scola on us?

I have always liked him in that stretch 4 off the bench role.

ArizonaBullsFan · Post #214 » by **ArizonaBullsFan** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:12 am

chrispatrick wrote:
ArizonaBullsFan wrote:
madvillian wrote:
what has portis done? in a 1.5 quarter sample? come on man.

7 minutes, he had 4 rebounds and an assist. Pretty good for a guy who "isn't an NBA player".

He is not an NBA player... not nearly enough offense for the liability on defense.

He has a 12.6 PER and a .530 TS%, not bad for a guy who has played less than 1,500 NBA minutes.

And he's shooting .385 on 3's.

And I'm sure his defense will improve, the overwhelming majority of guys with less than 1,500 minutes of experience aren't very good on defense.

If actual NBA GM's gave up on players as quickly as this board does, players would never develop.

ArizonaBullsFan · Post #215 » by **ArizonaBullsFan** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:15 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
wrecking bulls wrote:Damn, why dont we trade for Ilyasova!? He would be a great fit

This isn't really an attack on you, but it's a pet peeve on mine when people want a particular player when they are playing well but you hardly hear about wanting said player when they are playing badly. When a player is playing well, of course teams want them, that's why it's difficult to get them because why would the team want to trade away a player who is playing well for them?

I mean, it's human nature of course, and I'm sure I do it too, but it does irk me at times for some reason. Now we had more trade ideas going for players in slumps or who aren't being played but clearly has some talent that isn't being utilized, like maybe WCS, then that would be more realistic.

The Sixers are somewhat void of talent as is, they aren't going to trade someone like Ersan unless we give them a big return, which we shouldn't be doing for a player like him.

Especially when Ilyasova is going to be a free agent this summer and we can just sign him without giving up anything.

BeKuK · Post #216 » by **BeKuK** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:16 am

All I see is that the 76ers scored 57 points in 24 min against us playing in Chicago.

wrecking bulls · Post #217 » by **wrecking bulls** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:16 am

Because he's on the last year of his contract i think. And i don't think Phily will give him a new one, i bet they are willing to deal him for the right price

wrecking bulls · Post #218 » by **wrecking bulls** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:17 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
wrecking bulls wrote:Damn, why dont we trade for Ilyasova!? He would be a great fit

This isn't really an attack on you, but it's a pet peeve on mine when people want a particular player when they are playing well but you hardly hear about wanting said player when they are playing badly. When a player is playing well, of course teams want them, that's why it's difficult to get them because why would the team want to trade away a player who is playing well for them?

I mean, it's human nature of course, and I'm sure I do it too, but it does irk me at times for some reason. Now we had more trade ideas going for players in slumps or who aren't being played but clearly has some talent that isn't being utilized, like maybe WCS, then that would be more realistic.

The Sixers are somewhat void of talent as is, they aren't going to trade someone like Ersan unless we give them a big return, which we shouldn't be doing for a player like him.

Because he's on the last year of his contract i think. And i don't think Phily will give him a new one, i bet they are willing to deal him for the right price

chrispatrick · Post #219 » by **chrispatrick** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:19 am

ArizonaBullsFan wrote:
chrispatrick wrote:
ArizonaBullsFan wrote:
7 minutes, he had 4 rebounds and an assist. Pretty good for a guy who "isn't an NBA player".

He is not an NBA player... not nearly enough offense for the liability on defense.

He has a 12.6 PER and a .530 TS%, not bad for a guy who has played less than 1,500 NBA minutes.

And he's shooting .385 on 3's.

And I'm sure his defense will improve, the overwhelming majority of guys with less than 1,500 minutes of experience aren't very good on defense.

If actual NBA GM's gave up on players as quickly as this board does, players would never develop.

Not all 12.6 PER players are created equal. PFs as bad as Portis is defensively need to be elite on offense to make an impact. Boozer was pretty good on offense and we all hated him as we watched uncontested layup after layup.

My take on Portis is given what he does to your defense, he's not worth it. I'm not one to give up quickly on players, but he has such a huge hole to overcome before he's not hurting you. I am guessing the defense will not improve significantly (all I can do is guess), primarily because he's so slow footed. Right now, he hurts you with mental mistakes and slow footedness and only of those is curable.

Dan Z · Post #220 » by **Dan Z** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:21 am

ArizonaBullsFan wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
wrecking bulls wrote:Damn, why dont we trade for Ilyasova!? He would be a great fit

This isn't really an attack on you, but it's a pet peeve on mine when people want a particular player when they are playing well but you hardly hear about wanting said player when they are playing badly. When a player is playing well, of course teams want them, that's why it's difficult to get them because why would the team want to trade away a player who is playing well for them?

I mean, it's human nature of course, and I'm sure I do it too, but it does irk me at times for some reason. Now we had more trade ideas going for players in slumps or who aren't being played but clearly has some talent that isn't being utilized, like maybe WCS, then that would be more realistic.

The Sixers are somewhat void of talent as is, they aren't going to trade someone like Ersan unless we give them a big return, which we shouldn't be doing for a player like him.

Especially when Ilyasova is going to be a free agent this summer and we can just sign him without giving up anything.

About a month or so ago I suggested Mirotic for Ilyasova straight up, but was shot down. I was thinking that the Sixers might like Mirotics upside and the Bulls could use Ilyasova's production right now.