2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

[bondom34]

On ESPN just now, Royce Young was asked about the Thunder being active at the trade deadline. He said he expects the Thunder to be active (no surprise there). However, when he was asked about who the untouchable players on the roster are, he mentioned Steven, Russ, and Nick. Only those 3. Interesting to see what might be available if those 3 are the only ones off the table.

That's good news to me. I think Kanter too, but only because his stupid butt hurt himself and I don't know who trades for a guy who's injured.

[bondom34]

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[ThunderBolt]

Basically means Vic, Sabonis and Abrines. Everyone else is either untradeable or unusable by another team


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[NetsWorld]

It's good news to hear they will be active but I am sure Presti will see which player fits a need on the roster. The team needs more depth or another star to pair with Russ.

[ThunderBolt]

Portland needs a PF. Sabonis and Oladipo for Mccolum?

[bondom34]

Portland needs a PF. Sabonis and Oladipo for Mccolum?

You really down on Dipo?

I like CJ, but not this much. And it still means OKC needs a PF and SF.

[ThunderBolt]

Portland needs a PF. Sabonis and Oladipo for Mccolum?

You really down on Dipo?

I like CJ, but not this much. And it still means OKC needs a PF and SF.

I think he could give us a second scoring option. Robes and Payne for Chandler. That takes care of the small forward. I like dipo fine. I just think we paid him too much for what he does. Obviously we aren't trading Adams. Who else might we be able to get that could be a good scorer alongside Westbrook?

[bondom34]

Portland needs a PF. Sabonis and Oladipo for Mccolum?

You really down on Dipo?

I like CJ, but not this much. And it still means OKC needs a PF and SF.

I think he could give us a second scoring option. Robes and Payne for Chandler. Takes care of the small forward. I like dipo fine. I just think we paid him too much for what he does. Obviously we aren't trading Adams. Who else might we be able to get that could be a good scorer alongside Westbrook.

CJ'd be nice, but it leaves you with the same 2 positional holes you started with and 2 less assets. Rather flip those 2 for a 3 or 4. Package them for LMA or someone like that. Even then the fit isn't perfect but fills a need a little more IMO.

[ThunderBolt]

You really down on Dipo?

I like CJ, but not this much. And it still means OKC needs a PF and SF.

I think he could give us a second scoring option. Robes and Payne for Chandler. Takes care of the small forward. I like dipo fine. I just think we paid him too much for what he does. Obviously we aren't trading Adams. Who else might we be able to get that could be a good scorer alongside Westbrook.

CJ'd be nice, but it leaves you with the same 2 positional holes you started with and 2 less assets. Rather flip those 2 for a 3 or 4. Package them for LMA or someone like that. Even then the fit isn't perfect but fills a need a little more IMO.

I would rather get good individual pieces and build around that than have the positions filled with players who aren't that good. What I suggested isn't a finished roster by any means, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

[bondom34]

I think he could give us a second scoring option. Robes and Payne for Chandler. Takes care of the small forward. I like dipo fine. I just think we paid him too much for what he does. Obviously we aren't trading Adams. Who else might we be able to get that could be a good scorer alongside Westbrook.

CJ'd be nice, but it leaves you with the same 2 positional holes you started with and 2 less assets. Rather flip those 2 for a 3 or 4. Package them for LMA or someone like that. Even then the fit isn't perfect but fills a need a little more IMO.

I would rather get good individual pieces and build around that than have the positions filled with players who aren't that good. What I suggested isn't a finished roster by any means, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind CJ at all, but I think Sabonis/VO as a duo is a better deal within the very near future (possibly next year even). Other than shooting, CJ doesn't do a ton else better than VO from my perspective though I haven't dug through the numbers much.

[Andre Roberstan]

CJ'd be nice, but it leaves you with the same 2 positional holes you started with and 2 less assets. Rather flip those 2 for a 3 or 4. Package them for LMA or someone like that. Even then the fit isn't perfect but fills a need a little more IMO.

I would rather get good individual pieces and build around that than have the positions filled with players who aren't that good. What I suggested isn't a finished roster by any means, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind CJ at all, but I think Sabonis/VO as a duo is a better deal within the very near future (possibly next year even). Other than shooting, CJ doesn't do a ton else better than VO from my perspective though I haven't dug through the numbers much.

CJ's a much better combo guard. He's not a great defender, but he is a good scorer and has a little upside defensively (more than Lillard).

I'd think about this, though we'd have to get back something that would help fill the gap at PF. Even if we had to start Joff.

[ThunderBolt]

CJ'd be nice, but it leaves you with the same 2 positional holes you started with and 2 less assets. Rather flip those 2 for a 3 or 4. Package them for LMA or someone like that. Even then the fit isn't perfect but fills a need a little more IMO.

I would rather get good individual pieces and build around that than have the positions filled with players who aren't that good. What I suggested isn't a finished roster by any means, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind CJ at all, but I think Sabonis/VO as a duo is a better deal within the very near future (possibly next year even). Other than shooting, CJ doesn't do a ton else better than VO from my perspective though I haven't dug through the numbers much.

Possibly, but shooting is a big issue with us. Vic is a better defender but He isn't a lockdown guy, in my opinion. I would love to have a good defensive team but I we already have Robes, grant, Adams and others who just can't score. We could still keep Adams to be our rim protector. I think the loss of Vic's defense would be more than offset by CJ's scoring. Maybe I'm wrong.

[bondom34]

I would rather get good individual pieces and build around that than have the positions filled with players who aren't that good. What I suggested isn't a finished roster by any means, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind CJ at all, but I think Sabonis/VO as a duo is a better deal within the very near future (possibly next year even). Other than shooting, CJ doesn't do a ton else better than VO from my perspective though I haven't dug through the numbers much.

CJ's a much better combo guard. He's not a great defender, but he is a good scorer and has a little upside defensively (more than Lillard).

I'd think about this, though we'd have to get back something that would help fill the gap at PF. Even if we had to start Joff.

That's my concern, and I think Sabonis is going to be really good, and pretty soon.

[bondom34]

I would rather get good individual pieces and build around that than have the positions filled with players who aren't that good. What I suggested isn't a finished roster by any means, but I think it's a step in the right direction.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind CJ at all, but I think Sabonis/VO as a duo is a better deal within the very near future (possibly next year even). Other than shooting, CJ doesn't do a ton else better than VO from my perspective though I haven't dug through the numbers much.

Possibly, but shooting is a big issue with us. Vic is a better defender but He isn't a lockdown guy, in my opinion. I would love to have a good defensive team but I we already have Robes, grant, Adams and others who just can't score. We could still keep Adams to be our rim protector. I think the loss of Vic's defense would be more than offset by CJ's scoring. Maybe I'm wrong.

FTR, DRPM has Vic miles ahead of CJ. The shooting would be fantastic but I really worry about having a weak defender next to Russ.

[ThunderBolt]

Can't Grant play PF a little bit? Lauvergne too. Also, when Kanter comes back, he and Adams can be out there together. I'm thinking about how this move sets us up for next year. It sucks to lose Sabonis as a prospect but we could replace his production. Plus we still have Abrines as an additional shooter.

[ThunderBolt]

Abrines and Vic for CJ might be fair value wise but I don't think it fills a need for them. I like Sabonis but I've cooked on him a bit lately. Plus, if we're keeping Russ we need to make win-now moves. Maybe we don't wait for Sabonis to develop.

[ThunderBolt]

Other option. We go after Gallinari/Chandler and also get Jamal Murray. That would probably involve Sabonis +Robes,Payne,...or whatever. So we get a small forward, and still have one young prospect. Thoughts?

[Osirus89]

Other option. We go after Gallinari/Chandler and also get Jamal Murray. That would probably involve Sabonis +Robes,Payne,...or whatever. So we get a small forward, and still have one young prospect. Thoughts?

There is NO way Denver sends Murray to us with any of the assets we can trade if we are also getting gallinari or Chandler. You get gallinari or Chandler and then have to look elsewhere. We have no picks to send back either and Denver really likes Murray. I would be ecstatic to just get Gallo or Chandler for some of our pieces.

If we were to move domas in a deal, we would have to go after lydon or Hartenstein in the draft. Lauvergne or grant will work as a stopgap temporarily, but they aren't really 4s. Grant doesn't weigh enough and lauvergne is at his best near the basket, which won't work with Adams. If we got Gallo, he could play small ball 4, but then who plays the 3. Gotta be careful who gets traded or you have to play musical chairs with your lineups. Kanter at the 4 would be a struggle on the defensive end.

If we did the CJ trade, there is no way we could get rid of Andre. He is way too valuable if your backcourt is Russ and CJ. They won't be able to contain opposing guards on their own.

[bondom34]

Can't Grant play PF a little bit? Lauvergne too. Also, when Kanter comes back, he and Adams can be out there together. I'm thinking about how this move sets us up for next year. It sucks to lose Sabonis as a prospect but we could replace his production. Plus we still have Abrines as an additional shooter.

Grant is pretty bad basically everywhere. I don't think personally waiting for Sabonis will take long, I think next year he can be a solid contributor. If a VIc/Abrines/Cam deal were to get something that's ideal to me.

In a perfect world Kanter gets moved next week.

[bondom34]

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