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The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0)

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Re: The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0) 

Post#1861 » by Marvel » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:40 pm

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horrible trade for Boston. Common Man!


Crowder for Noel then. Ab is more valuable to this team than Jae, especially come playoffs.


Jae's contract alone is so damn valuable in today's NBA marketplace. for that reason alone I would never trade him for anything less then as part of a larger package for a star. With players getting 15-25 million like it's candy, having Crowder locked into a team friendly deal for the foreseeable future enables Danny to spend in other areas. same can be said with ab and IT, but those guys are up for contracts summer of 18.


Nowhere near untouchable though. If anything that contract makes him an even more appealing trade asset for the right guy.
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Post#1862 » by Gomes3PC » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:40 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:If you are going to trade with Chicago, the player you want is Mirotic, not McDermott. Mirotic's numbers from beyond he arc are way down this year (as are his minutes) but he shot 39% from three point range last year. And Mirotic gets twice as many rebounds per 36 as McDermott.

Yep. Mirotic's 7-1 wingspan is also a huge plus. Both are bad defenders but Mirotic's size/smarts can at least be used in a Jerebko-like way at PF/SF.
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Re: The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0) 

Post#1863 » by Marvel » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:46 pm

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Writebloc wrote:Just listening to Simmons' podcast and he had Sean Grande on, some pretty interesting reveals in the conversation. I think many Celtics' fans are more concerned about defensive rebounding than Ainge and the Celtics are. It seems like everyone on here, for logical reasons, is looking for a big, but it sounds like as Danny has said a while ago he is looking for an off the bench scorer.

I don't think Ainge will go all in for a Whiteside, or any other premier big because Stevens doesn't value that position. The Celtics understand that defensive rebounding is an area of weakness, but they believe that they can work around it. It will be interesting to see what Ainge actually does.


So Ainge will trade for Doug McDermott.

I thought about that the other day but Jerebko actually shoots better


Hummmm, no.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&hint=Jonas+Jerebko&player_id1_select=Jonas+Jerebko&y1=2017&player_id1=jerebjo01&hint=Doug+McDermott&player_id2_select=Doug+McDermott&y2=2017&player_id2=mcderdo01
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Re: The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0) 

Post#1864 » by Bohemian » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:48 pm

Vittorio Gallinari, Danilo’s father and agent, said that the Houston Rockets are interested in his son.

“Danilo always said that he loves Denver and he wants to remain in Colorado. But in the NBA a player with a contract can’t decide. The franchise decides for him” Gallinari told Il Cittadino. “It would be fascinating to see Danilo Gallinari with the Clippers, the Celtics or the Raptors. Teams that need a player in his role (Raptors not anymore because they have signed Serge Ibaka). Orlando would have less appeal” Gallinari added. “I never called Mike D’Antoni (Rockets head coach) but I think that the interest of Houston for Danilo comes from Mike’s desire to coach him again” Gallinari ended.

Danilo Gallinari will likely opt out of his contract after this season to become unrestricted free agent in July.


http://www.sportando.com/en/usa/nba/226200/vittorio-gallinari-danilo-loves-denver-but-it-d-be-fascinating-to-see-him-with-clippers-or-celtics.html
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Re: The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0) 

Post#1865 » by ddb » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:50 pm

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Crowder for Noel then. Ab is more valuable to this team than Jae, especially come playoffs.


Jae's contract alone is so damn valuable in today's NBA marketplace. for that reason alone I would never trade him for anything less then as part of a larger package for a star. With players getting 15-25 million like it's candy, having Crowder locked into a team friendly deal for the foreseeable future enables Danny to spend in other areas. same can be said with ab and IT, but those guys are up for contracts summer of 18.


Nowhere near untouchable though. If anything that contract makes him an even more appealing trade asset for the right guy.


but it's NOT Noel. No way. Would you rather have Jae at 8 million or Noel at 22million for the next 4 years?
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Post#1866 » by OFWGKTA » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:51 pm

ddb wrote:
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Jae's contract alone is so damn valuable in today's NBA marketplace. for that reason alone I would never trade him for anything less then as part of a larger package for a star. With players getting 15-25 million like it's candy, having Crowder locked into a team friendly deal for the foreseeable future enables Danny to spend in other areas. same can be said with ab and IT, but those guys are up for contracts summer of 18.


Nowhere near untouchable though. If anything that contract makes him an even more appealing trade asset for the right guy.


but it's NOT Noel. No way. Would you rather have Jae at 8 million or Noel at 22million for the next 4 years?


Jae, but I'd also rather Noel at 22 million over Bradley at 22 million or whatever he'll get after next season
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Post#1867 » by Bohemian » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:53 pm

Guys, Danny is not trading any of our core players or main picks for role players or average starters. Danny would never deal Crowder for Noel.

The only way Ainge deals any of those assets is for star players. That´s all.
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Re: The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0) 

Post#1868 » by TheOGJabroni » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:00 pm

I haven't read this thread much since Drummond "rumors" surfaced so sorry if my admittedly crazy ideas have already been mentioned:

Boston in: Drummond
Detroit in: Bradley, Amir & BK 18

Boston in: Butler
Chicago in: Brown, Zeller & BK 17

9 man rotation of:

Thomas / Smart
Butler / Rozier
Crowder
Horford / Jerebko
Drummond / Olynyk

Bench takes a definite hit but that is a strong starting 5, with a couple nice pieces off the bench.
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Post#1869 » by ddb » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:06 pm

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Nowhere near untouchable though. If anything that contract makes him an even more appealing trade asset for the right guy.


but it's NOT Noel. No way. Would you rather have Jae at 8 million or Noel at 22million for the next 4 years?


Jae, but I'd also rather Noel at 22 million over Bradley at 22 million or whatever he'll get after next season


so I think we just sorta out that issue. AB for Noel is a much better deal than Jae for Noel.

I would much rather do Jonas/Zeller/Bos18 1st and Minny 17 2nd for McDermott and Gibson. Keep our key assets and AB for now and make a bigger decision this summer.
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Re: The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0) 

Post#1870 » by Marvel » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:07 pm

ddb wrote:
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Jae's contract alone is so damn valuable in today's NBA marketplace. for that reason alone I would never trade him for anything less then as part of a larger package for a star. With players getting 15-25 million like it's candy, having Crowder locked into a team friendly deal for the foreseeable future enables Danny to spend in other areas. same can be said with ab and IT, but those guys are up for contracts summer of 18.


Nowhere near untouchable though. If anything that contract makes him an even more appealing trade asset for the right guy.


but it's NOT Noel. No way. Would you rather have Jae at 8 million or Noel at 22million for the next 4 years?


My bad, didn't think about Jae's contract. Forgive me, master.
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Post#1871 » by Writebloc » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:11 pm

ESPN is so excited about Danny's stockpile of assets. Listen to the ooooohhhhs and ahhhhhhs of Kerry Rhodes as Tom Penn extols the virtue of what Danny has put together.

The trade they propose:
Amir Johnson
James Young
2017 Nets pick
2019 Clippers pick
2019 Memphis pick

for

Jimmy Butler

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=18691231
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Post#1872 » by SparringPartner » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:11 pm

Would you, Could you...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gtcsz97

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Boston probably needs to send a BRK pick, how bout the 2018

Starting 5's for;

Celtics - Smart(22), Bradley(26), Brown(20), Horford(30), Drummond(23)

Pistons - Thomas, KCP, Crowder, Harris, Baynes
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Post#1873 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:14 pm

SparringPartner wrote:Would you, Could you...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gtcsz97

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Boston probably needs to send a BRK pick, how bout 2018!

Starting 5's for;

Celtics - Smart, Bradley, Brown, Horford, Drummond

Pistons - Thomas, KCP, Crowder, Harris, Baynes


I think we should try to include Brown and the BKN17 pick as well-- don't think Detroit is getting enough value.
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Post#1874 » by London2Boston » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:14 pm

SparringPartner wrote:Would you, Could you...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gtcsz97

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Boston probably needs to send a BRK pick, how bout 2018!

Starting 5's for;

Celtics - Smart, Bradley, Brown, Horford, Drummond

Pistons - Thomas, KCP, Crowder, Harris, Baynes


I wouldn't even give that up without the Brooklyn pick :lol:
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Post#1875 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:15 pm

AB for Noel and Covington-- who says no?
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Post#1876 » by ddb » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:16 pm

Marvel wrote:
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Nowhere near untouchable though. If anything that contract makes him an even more appealing trade asset for the right guy.


but it's NOT Noel. No way. Would you rather have Jae at 8 million or Noel at 22million for the next 4 years?


My bad, didn't think about Jae's contract. Forgive me, master.


no reason for the snark response. You are obviously entitled to your own opinion, but I am also sharing mine. My opinion is that head to head Jae is the better player, he plays a more valuable position, he's a "Celtic type" and under a team friendly contract for 4 more years. Then factoring in the new CBA and what players are getting on the open market, Noel is going to cash in. He is getting north of 20 million. non way I want to lock in that much cash on Noel who has already suffered a major knee injury earlier in his career and hasn't exactly been the prototype of durability.
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Post#1877 » by CelticFaninLBC » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:16 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:If you are going to trade with Chicago, the player you want is Mirotic, not McDermott. Mirotic's numbers from beyond he arc are way down this year (as are his minutes) but he shot 39% from three point range last year. And Mirotic gets twice as many rebounds per 36 as McDermott.


Mirotic is an RFA, with a $8.7 million cap hold. Might all well just hang onto Olynyk instead.
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Post#1878 » by ddb » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:17 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:AB for Noel and Covington-- who says no?


me.
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Post#1879 » by ddb » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:17 pm

London2Boston wrote:
SparringPartner wrote:Would you, Could you...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gtcsz97

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Boston probably needs to send a BRK pick, how bout 2018!

Starting 5's for;

Celtics - Smart, Bradley, Brown, Horford, Drummond

Pistons - Thomas, KCP, Crowder, Harris, Baynes


I wouldn't even give that up without the Brooklyn pick :lol:


this is a joke right? wow! Some people are clueless
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Re: The (Quadruple) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 4.0) 

Post#1880 » by Marvel » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:18 pm

ddb wrote:
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but it's NOT Noel. No way. Would you rather have Jae at 8 million or Noel at 22million for the next 4 years?


My bad, didn't think about Jae's contract. Forgive me, master.


no reason for the snark response. You are obviously entitled to your own opinion, but I am also sharing mine. My opinion is that head to head Jae is the better player, he plays a more valuable position, he's a "Celtic type" and under a team friendly contract for 4 more years. Then factoring in the new CBA and what players are getting on the open market, Noel is going to cash in. He is getting north of 20 million. non way I want to lock in that much cash on Noel who has already suffered a major knee injury earlier in his career and hasn't exactly been the prototype of durability.


Yo, chill. It was a light hearted joke man, Sheesh put some more coffee in your coffee dude. I admitted i made a mistake, take it and chill.

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