Is Ibaka really 27?

K_chile22 · Post #22 » by **K_chile22** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:16 am

If he's not older he plays like he is so I don't think it really matters, he just is what he is

RobinHood · Post #23 » by **RobinHood** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:45 am

Can we get some realGM detective work going on here (yearbook pictures, red arrows, the whole sha-bang)?

I need to know if Serge Ibaka is Thon Maker's son or cousin.

beach house · Post #24 » by **beach house** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:55 am

we will probably not get closure on this question like we did for maker.

just not as many yearbooks in the drc as in australia

ThumbsUpBaby · Post #25 » by **ThumbsUpBaby** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:55 am

He's at least 31.

Sir Psycho Sexy · Post #26 » by **Sir Psycho Sexy** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:10 am

Even before NBA while he was playing for Manresa in Spain everyone thought and/or had some proof that he was 4 years older. That was pretty much generally accepted as a fact

primopastalove2 · Post #27 » by **primopastalove2** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:20 am

I have a hard time believing he's 27, his daughter is like in her early teens.

MessiahUjiri · Post #28 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:23 am

Guys, I once saw a 90s yearbook picture of Ibaka, Thon Maker, and Greg Oden.

E-Balla · Post #29 » by **E-Balla** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:27 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Caboclo wrote:Looking at his production and athleticism drop off gradually in the past several years, this is making me think its a lot more than just a hoax... You dont peak at age 22-24 and then have a significant decline in the next several years.

Wonder if OKC knew something we didnt when trading him last year...

Major injuries.

franktony · Post #30 » by **franktony** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:30 am

E-Balla wrote::cry:
zimpy27 wrote:
Caboclo wrote:Looking at his production and athleticism drop off gradually in the past several years, this is making me think its a lot more than just a hoax... You dont peak at age 22-24 and then have a significant decline in the next several years.

Wonder if OKC knew something we didnt when trading him last year...

Major injuries.

and poor work ethic too.

Torres · Post #31 » by **Torres** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:40 am

+2-4 years sounds real

WhatsaTDot · Post #32 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:43 am

The 37+ have it!

CablexDeadpool · Post #33 » by **CablexDeadpool** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:51 am

franktony wrote:
E-Balla wrote::cry:
zimpy27 wrote:

and poor work ethic too.

I don't think a player goes from second fiddle to MVP caliber and posting a 30 per season has a poor work ethic...

He had scoliosis and wasn't even supposed to play pro-ball as long as he did.

franktony · Post #34 » by **franktony** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:07 am

CablexDeadpool wrote:
franktony wrote:
E-Balla wrote::cry:

I don't think a player goes from second fiddle to MVP caliber and posting a 30 per season has a poor work ethic...

He had scoliosis and wasn't even supposed to play pro-ball as long as he did.

He admits it. He has interviews saying that the scoliosis didn't even bother him during his first 10 years in the NBA. Heck, Usain Bolt has scoliosis.

I don't doubt he worked hard to become pro and a star. But what separates guys with similar talent is work ethic during a long period of time. That's what separates guys like T-Mac and Kobe. Kobe did it for 20 years dealing with several types of injuries. T-Mac peaked at the age of 23 and 6 years later he was already done.

Rapcity_11 · Post #35 » by **Rapcity_11** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:18 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Hindenburg wrote:
urgal wrote:So...

Ibakas best season statistically (13-14) per 36:
16.6/9.6/3.0 BLK on 53.6 FG % and 38.3 3PT % on 0.8 attempts

Ibaka this year with ORL per 36:
17.8/8.0/1.9 BLK on 48.8 FG % but 38.8 3PT % on 3.8 attempts

Where exactly has he declined?

He actually had just one down year (that was last season) and has gotten a little more perimeter oriented, that's about it.

Everywhere. He's rebounding and blocking less. He is scoring slightly more on higher usage and lower efficiency

He's game has changed to perimeter. His assists, steals and 3pga are up while his 2pga, rebs and blocks are down.

He's more efficient this year than either of the last 2 before this.

It's really just blocks and offensive rebounds that are down. Everything else is the same or up.

ChiCityHoops34 · Post #36 » by **ChiCityHoops34** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:47 am

Russ is literally not a human, not remotely close to one

shangrila · Post #37 » by **shangrila** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:08 am

urgal wrote:So...

Ibakas best season statistically (13-14) per 36:
16.6/9.6/3.0 BLK on 53.6 FG % and 38.3 3PT % on 0.8 attempts

Ibaka this year with ORL per 36:
17.8/8.0/1.9 BLK on 48.8 FG % but 38.8 3PT % on 3.8 attempts

Where exactly has he declined?

He actually had just one down year (that was last season) and has gotten a little more perimeter oriented, that's about it.

Based on the information you provided, he's declined in blocks, FG% and rebounds. Also his free throw rate, offensive rebounding % and win shares are all down, among others.

He's clearly declined. Whether that's because he's secretly a senior citizen though, I doubt any of us will know.

alevirfe · Post #38 » by **alevirfe** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:19 am

As a Raps fan, I think it's funny how many people claim to have been following Ibaka during his supposed decline in Orlando. Do people watch Magic games? I doubt it

I haven't watched him play. I don't watch the Magic. So looking at his numbers he looks to be very similar per 36 (as posted). The decrease in blocks/rebounds/FTA is easily explained by his increased perimeter play (also corroborated by his 3.8 3PAs)

PharmD · Post #39 » by **PharmD** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:10 am

His ORB% and BLK% (2 numbers highly correlated with youth) are less than half of what they were at age 22. ORBs make sense if he's spending more time standing outside the arc but still. Massive drop.

Plus he has wrinkles.

Pharaoh · Post #40 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:47 am

He's likely a couple of years older but it's obvious why certain stats have declined

Don't really see how it's an issue or topic though.

He'll get a 4 or 5 year deal this off-season and likely become even more perimeter orientated from now on.

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How old is ibaka? (in your opinion)