The Trade Thread II

rcklsscognition · Post #1081 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:28 pm

I think I would be sick to my stomach if we moved Hezonja.

OrlandoNed · Post #1082 » by **OrlandoNed** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:46 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Oh Jesus Christ. :noway:

One hack regurgitating another hack's regurgitation of a freaking mock trade article. Sports journalism is dead.

rcklsscognition · Post #1083 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:28 pm

Zach Lowe wrote about Mario or Payton being traded to Detroit yesterday, on the 15th. The b/r report and tweets came from today the 16th, so it would appear Lowe's article was the original source.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18686427/zach-lowe-andre-drummond-reggie-jackson-detroit-pistons

All of that stuff is in there. Mario, Elfrid, etc.

That leaves only a few plausible alternatives. The Pistons could target a distressed young point guard like Elfrid Payton or Emmanuel Mudiay, and snag a rental wing to make up the salary gap. Mudiay is available, per several league sources, though it appears Denver has no interest in Jackson. Orlando remains an intriguing fit; Rob Hennigan, the Magic GM, was part of the Thunder front office that drafted Jackson, and the team is starting freaking C.J. Watson over Payton.

If Payton doesn't float Van Gundy's boat, the Pistons could reunite with D.J. Augustin. Jrue Holiday could ignite another point guard shuffle if he indicates he won't re-sign in New Orleans; the Pelicans have kicked the tires on Jackson, league sources say, though nothing ever got serious.

They might even flip Jackson for an extra wing -- Mario Hezonja and filler, perhaps? -- ride out the season with Smith, and fill the point guard hole later. But wings are in demand, and teams aren't going to flip proven ones for Jackson right now.

rcklsscognition · Post #1084 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:35 pm

Stan then responded to the Lowe article with classic Stan.

“I’ve heard about it,” Van Gundy said. “He throws a lot of stuff out there, so I don’t know if that’s illuminating. I could write a lot of stuff, too, but would that be illuminating? Would it be illuminating or would it be (expletive)? There’s a fine line between illuminating and (expletive).” 2 hours ago – via Detroit Free Press

OrlandoDream · Post #1085 » by **OrlandoDream** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:39 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Stan then responded to the Lowe article with classic Stan.

“I’ve heard about it,” Van Gundy said. “He throws a lot of stuff out there, so I don’t know if that’s illuminating. I could write a lot of stuff, too, but would that be illuminating? Would it be illuminating or would it be (expletive)? There’s a fine line between illuminating and (expletive).” 2 hours ago – via Detroit Free Press

Dont ever change Stan.

drsd · Post #1086 » by **drsd** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:44 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:I think I would be sick to my stomach if we moved Hezonja.

As one ridiculous example:
"Orlando trades Gordon and Hezonja for Paul George."

Does that make you sick? I think one must be pragmatic in these things.

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magicfan217 · Post #1087 » by **magicfan217** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:12 pm

I cannot watch Jeff Green play anymore. Trade him or cut him, he HAS to go.

Xatticus · Post #1088 » by **Xatticus** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:15 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:Maybe we could trade Vuc and the LAC/TOR pick for the Pelican's top 3 protected 2017 pick (2018 unprotected) and a bad contract? Then follow that up with Biyombo, Augustin and the better of the LAL/ORL 2nd for Drummond? I think that stuff sounds somewhat reasonable.

NOH only 3.5 games out of the playoffs. Give them Vuc to add more consistent scoring to pair with Holiday and Davis, and it isnt too far fetched that they could make the playoffs. Your Top-3 protected pick could be #17.

I don't know. I like Vuc but I think they are farther than him away from getting to the next step. They would need to throw in a contrast as well and depending on how productive that player is...

They've actually been solid since their hideous start to the season. They have been actively looking for bigs to alleviate the defensive workload on Davis though, which most believe is per his request. I don't think Vucevic suddenly makes them a contender, but I don't really think any solitary transaction is going to turn them into a contender. They've repeatedly missed in the draft and free agency, which is why I think they are working so hard to find a big via trade. I think Vucevic is actually a better fit for them than either of Lopez or Okafor.

MagicFan101 · Post #1089 » by **MagicFan101** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:17 pm

Mario has years remaining on an outdated rookie scale contract.

Unless we are getting a star back (which we won't), it would be crazy to give up on him now.

nymets1 · Post #1090 » by **nymets1** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:18 pm

The Hawks want to trade Splitter and Thabo. i'm guessing neither player we should attempt at?

OrlandoNed · Post #1091 » by **OrlandoNed** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:21 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:Mario has years remained on an outdated rookie scale contract.

Unless we are getting a star back (which we won't), it would be crazy to give up on him now.

Mario looks like one of those guys who's original team can't develop him right and kills his value, then blows up the minute an elite coach gets his hands on him for peanuts.

magicfan217 · Post #1092 » by **magicfan217** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:23 pm

When Mario plays in the regular rotation, he stands around and rarely touches the ball. When he does he almost never attacks the rim. When he's playing mop up minutes he attacks constantly and looks really good. Why can't he bring this same mentality with the regulars?

NEM · Post #1093 » by **NEM** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:25 pm

magicfan217 wrote:When Mario plays in the regular rotation, he stands around and rarely touches the ball. When he does he almost never attacks the rim. When he's playing mop up minutes he attacks constantly and looks really good. Why can't he bring this same mentality with the regulars?

Because he's not a good basketball player. It's no coincidence that 4 coaches have refused to play him. At some point you have to stop making excuses and call a spade a spade.

magicfan217 · Post #1094 » by **magicfan217** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:26 pm

NEM wrote:
magicfan217 wrote:When Mario plays in the regular rotation, he stands around and rarely touches the ball. When he does he almost never attacks the rim. When he's playing mop up minutes he attacks constantly and looks really good. Why can't he bring this same mentality with the regulars?

Because he's not a good basketball player. It's no coincidence that 4 coaches have refused to play him. At some point you have to stop making excuses and call a spade a spade.

He might not be any good. But he rarely attempts to do anything while hes out there.

magicfan217 · Post #1095 » by **magicfan217** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:27 pm

Skiles even talked about STARTING Mario his rookie year...that's how impressive he was in camp/preseason.

I'm not saying Mario IS good...I am just saying it's really hard to evaluate him.

magicfan4life88 · Post #1096 » by **magicfan4life88** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:34 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:I think I would be sick to my stomach if we moved Hezonja.

Really? Why?

magicfan4life88 · Post #1097 » by **magicfan4life88** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:34 pm

magicfan217 wrote:I cannot watch Jeff Green play anymore. Trade him or cut him, he HAS to go.

Same here, I hate him!

magicfan4life88 · Post #1098 » by **magicfan4life88** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:36 pm

nymets1 wrote:The Hawks want to trade Splitter and Thabo. i'm guessing neither player we should attempt at?

Huh?

EasternMagic · Post #1099 » by **EasternMagic** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:38 pm

Read on Twitter

Stating that Jackson is less likely to be traded.

magicfan4life88 · Post #1100 » by **magicfan4life88** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:40 pm

I noticed some moments from Green last night that looked like he doesn't care and actually e8shed he was the one who was traded, I think he is a locker room issue too, it here have been several games throughout the season where I can see it in his face that he hates being here, I REALLY CAN'T WAIT FOR HIM TO BE GONE, I'M SICK OF IT, I'LL TAKE BIZ 100 TIMES AT HIS CURRENT RATE OVER GREEN GETTING ANOTHER MINUTE AT ANY RATE EVEN IF IT WAS $800K PER YEAR