thesack12 wrote:RedneckNiner wrote:Kolb, Flynn, Cassel... make me say hell no to a first or even a second for Garrapolo... The Patriots could put Cody Pickett, RG3, or even Tebow at QB and make them look decent. Just please no Garrapolo will end up Hamstringing the Niners for years...
If we are throwing in some non NE quarterbacks into the discussion, I'll throw Brett Favre in there. Also, Garoppolo was a much better prospect coming out of college than all those guys you mentioned so its not solely his time in NE that is driving up his market.
The way I look at it is this, the probability is high that Frisco is going to draft a QB in the early rounds so assuming the trade isn't #2 the draft capital it takes to get Garoppolo is inconsequential.
To build on that, I personally am not real high on any of the QB's in the draft. I like Watson the most, but as of now I'm not sold on him and am much higher on Garoppolo. Also none of these rookie QB's are capable of stepping in day one and being the guy, a few are arguably a couple years away.
I am aware of Garoppolo's contract situation. But to me, thats not too much of a factor as SF is absolutely flush with cap space and will have to spend a ton of money anyways. In addition, as mentioned earlier these QB prospects are not ready to play, so the team will be wasting however many years of cheap QB play it take them to get ready to get on the field.
One more thing, there are no guarantees any of these QB's workout long term including Garoppolo. That being the case I still lean towards going with the guy that is ready for the field today because if he flops the team will be able to move forward a lot quicker. If they take someone like Trubisky and he ends up failing it could be 4-5 years until they move on from him, 2 years of seasoning on the bench then 2-3 years of seeing what he does on the field.
So for me it comes down to who do you like better as a prospect? Garoppolo or any of the QB's in the draft. For me personally its clearly Jimmy, from a talent perspective as well as all of the other factors I mentioned above.
Now if you just aren't high on Jimmy's talent and skill set that's one thing, but to give it a blanket no because other backup QB's have failed when they went to new teams and became the guy is not a very thorough way to view it.
Favre is the one resounding success of trading for a backup QB off the top of my head... Can also go Schaud as another hes so awesome... Not to mention Garaplo is up for a big contract next year and If the Niners blow their draft wad on him it could be a one year rental...or you sign him to a big extension and he busts... A rookie QB even at the number 2 pick is cheaper and controllable for longer. I just think Garrapolo is an unknown and definately not worth the draft picks the Patriots want for him. I wouldn't even give up a second rounder for him. IMO Trubisky, Watson, Kizier, Kaaya are all better options and even Kelly I would put even with him and Kelly could be a 3rd or 4th round steal. Mahomes might be a viable option in the third round. Yes the Niners need a qb .. what they don't need to do is be so desperate they overspend to grab one. ANd trading a first or even the high second rounder the Niners have for Garrapolo is like paying 100 bucks for big mac.