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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1381 » by NEM » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:53 pm

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rcklsscognition wrote:Would not be surprised if we offer something for Terrence Jones. Once Jeff Green is gone we will need the depth.


Jones contact is only for $1M and expires after at the end of this year. Not sure I'd give anything of value for that, do we have a trade Exp from Serge??


yeah, i wouldnt give any value for Jones for 2 months. And he has been in league for 5 years now, he is a backup PF that thinks he can shoot 3 ptr's, but isnt really good at it.


He can probably be had for a future second round pick top 55 protected
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Post#1382 » by rcklsscognition » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:58 pm

Actually this is potentially frightening:

AG Career vs Terrence Jones Career

T Jones:

24.2MPG--10.6PPG--5.8RPB--1.0APG--1.2BPG--50.2%FG--29.9%3pt--60.6%FT

A. Gordon:

23.2MPG--8.8PPG--4.6RPG--1.5APG--0.6BPG--42.8%FG--29.1%3pt--65%FT
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1383 » by JBSouthpaw » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:07 pm

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rcklsscognition wrote:Would not be surprised if we offer something for Terrence Jones. Once Jeff Green is gone we will need the depth.


Jones contact is only for $1M and expires after at the end of this year. Not sure I'd give anything of value for that, do we have a trade Exp from Serge??


2nd round pick or tpe for jones,

dj+green= reggie jackson
Ag+Vuc+Fournier+pick+mario for Jimmy Butler or PG13, yes it is just a pipedream, but isnt that what we all do on here?

Biz-Zim
Jones(dleague prospect) Rudez
Butler or PG13 (bring back anthony Brown)Rudez
Ross, Cj watson, cj wilcox
Jackson, EP4, dleague pg

Strong starting line-up for the future, Biz thrives with scorers around him, develop Zim, strenthen bench in offseason


I don't mind RJ as a player, but I can't see us trading for him. We have BB for 17 mil a year for a few as a backup Center. I just can't add RJ's 17 Mil a year to the books.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1384 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:10 pm

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JBSouthpaw wrote:
Jones contact is only for $1M and expires after at the end of this year. Not sure I'd give anything of value for that, do we have a trade Exp from Serge??


2nd round pick or tpe for jones,

dj+green= reggie jackson
Ag+Vuc+Fournier+pick+mario for Jimmy Butler or PG13, yes it is just a pipedream, but isnt that what we all do on here?

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Jones(dleague prospect) Rudez
Butler or PG13 (bring back anthony Brown)Rudez
Ross, Cj watson, cj wilcox
Jackson, EP4, dleague pg

Strong starting line-up for the future, Biz thrives with scorers around him, develop Zim, strenthen bench in offseason

Straight gutted our team with that Butler Trade.Hope we get some quality cap fillers in that one too. hahaha


but you know thats what itll take, lol, yea definitely need cap fillers since so much money is going one way, maybe robin lopez comes this way, and then next year we can find a gem in the draft as we have toronto pick and another 2nd round pick too that is early in the 2nd round
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1385 » by 3ddman23 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:10 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Actually this is potentially frightening:

AG Career vs Terrence Jones Career

T Jones:

24.2MPG--10.6PPG--5.8RPB--1.0APG--1.2BPG--50.2%FG--29.9%3pt--60.6%FT

A. Gordon:

23.2MPG--8.8PPG--4.6RPG--1.5APG--0.6BPG--42.8%FG--29.1%3pt--65%FT


The funny thing is I was just about to say something similar to this in the sense that t.jones & ag are pretty similar players. Ag of course is the better defender and I'm a big fan of his but I just don't see how he is gonna become anyting more then a solid role player. Which in the end looks terrible in the grand scheme of things because he is our biggest hope as a player.
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Post#1386 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:12 pm

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Jones contact is only for $1M and expires after at the end of this year. Not sure I'd give anything of value for that, do we have a trade Exp from Serge??


2nd round pick or tpe for jones,

dj+green= reggie jackson
Ag+Vuc+Fournier+pick+mario for Jimmy Butler or PG13, yes it is just a pipedream, but isnt that what we all do on here?

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Jones(dleague prospect) Rudez
Butler or PG13 (bring back anthony Brown)Rudez
Ross, Cj watson, cj wilcox
Jackson, EP4, dleague pg

Strong starting line-up for the future, Biz thrives with scorers around him, develop Zim, strenthen bench in offseason


I don't mind RJ as a player, but I can't see us trading for him. We have BB for 17 mil a year for a few as a backup Center. I just can't add RJ's 17 Mil a year to the books.


Biz would become starting Center and he will flourish with this line-up as they will hide his offensive deficiencies, aslo reggie makes 15mil and the cap goes up
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Post#1387 » by DiplomaticMagic » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:14 pm

Kings willing to trade Collison, Mclemore, and Afflalo

Should we be interested in any of those?
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#1388 » by JBSouthpaw » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:20 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:
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magicfan4life88 wrote:
2nd round pick or tpe for jones,

dj+green= reggie jackson
Ag+Vuc+Fournier+pick+mario for Jimmy Butler or PG13, yes it is just a pipedream, but isnt that what we all do on here?

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Jones(dleague prospect) Rudez
Butler or PG13 (bring back anthony Brown)Rudez
Ross, Cj watson, cj wilcox
Jackson, EP4, dleague pg

Strong starting line-up for the future, Biz thrives with scorers around him, develop Zim, strenthen bench in offseason


I don't mind RJ as a player, but I can't see us trading for him. We have BB for 17 mil a year for a few as a backup Center. I just can't add RJ's 17 Mil a year to the books.


Biz would become starting Center and he will flourish with this line-up as they will hide his offensive deficiencies, aslo reggie makes 15mil and the cap goes up


Reggie makes 15 this year, 16 next, 17 then 18M. Wasn't concerned about this year as a wash to Green.
Biz has not shown any competency in being a starting center. You'd be playing 4 on 5.
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Post#1389 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:20 pm

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Kings willing to trade Collison, Mclemore, and Afflalo

Should we be interested in any of those?

why would we be interested in those? i mean if they take some of our scraps like cj wilcox, cj watson, meeks contract, not sure i want afflalo though, he does nothing for us unless hes expring, if that the case, after the butler trade id trade our left over scraps for that, lol
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Post#1390 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:23 pm

watch us stack our team with trades i just mentioned, make the 8th seed, beat the cavs then get swept by the celtics or raptors
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Post#1391 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:34 pm

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I don't mind RJ as a player, but I can't see us trading for him. We have BB for 17 mil a year for a few as a backup Center. I just can't add RJ's 17 Mil a year to the books.


Biz would become starting Center and he will flourish with this line-up as they will hide his offensive deficiencies, aslo reggie makes 15mil and the cap goes up


Reggie makes 15 this year, 16 next, 17 then 18M. Wasn't concerned about this year as a wash to Green.
Biz has not shown any competency in being a starting center. You'd be playing 4 on 5.

so he showed nothing in the time he was starting and we had a top defense and everything was clicking? everyone seems to forget about that, while somehow it died, we still had a legit team, something happened that killed it, just cuz you dont like his pay doesnt mean he isn't starting quality
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Post#1392 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:37 pm

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I don't mind RJ as a player, but I can't see us trading for him. We have BB for 17 mil a year for a few as a backup Center. I just can't add RJ's 17 Mil a year to the books.


Biz would become starting Center and he will flourish with this line-up as they will hide his offensive deficiencies, aslo reggie makes 15mil and the cap goes up


Reggie makes 15 this year, 16 next, 17 then 18M. Wasn't concerned about this year as a wash to Green.
Biz has not shown any competency in being a starting center. You'd be playing 4 on 5.


also dont you realize any pg we try to sign will cost much more then reggie makes? think about this if we trade for reggie do you really think thats the final move? dont you think we are more then likely after butler or PG13, not saying we get them but if we get what we are going after you have to realize our pick will be involved
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Post#1393 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:44 pm

for the record i dont want to trade biz or fournier and i dont want brandon knight over reggie jackson or jrue holiday but id do a trade of biz and fournier for knight, chriss, chandler/ len+dudley, len backs up Vuc temporarily, knight 6th man , dudley good shooting from the bench or starts next to ag and ross, hes a good defender and shooter
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Post#1394 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:48 pm

While NO is not that great of a team they do have a big star in Davis and paired up with Cousins that team should easily make the playoffs. Making the playoffs and playing with another star that went to the same school will prob keep Cousins content for a while, where as he comes here its a very similar dysfuntional team as in Sac in that its going nowhere. I can see him lashing out at this team and us looking to trade him again. Too bad we don't have a star, that way we could make that trade.
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Post#1395 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:50 pm

i also prefer not to have knight his fg% the last 3 years has been under 40% and his 3pt % the last 3 years is under 35%
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Post#1396 » by NEM » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:51 pm

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Kings willing to trade Collison, Mclemore, and Afflalo

Should we be interested in any of those?


Maybe mclemore for a future second round pick? Collison would be an upgrade over what we have now, but still just a backup...
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Post#1397 » by JBSouthpaw » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:51 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:
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Biz would become starting Center and he will flourish with this line-up as they will hide his offensive deficiencies, aslo reggie makes 15mil and the cap goes up


Reggie makes 15 this year, 16 next, 17 then 18M. Wasn't concerned about this year as a wash to Green.
Biz has not shown any competency in being a starting center. You'd be playing 4 on 5.

so he showed nothing in the time he was starting and we had a top defense and everything was clicking? everyone seems to forget about that, while somehow it died, we still had a legit team, something happened that killed it, just cuz you dont like his pay doesnt mean he isn't starting quality


You mean that run were we went 10-13??? Ok.
as a starter (27mpg) he was only putting up 7ppg & 8rebs. His PER is below replacement. I want him to be better, but that is a lot of hope. Also overlapped with AG moving back to starter.
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Post#1398 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:53 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:
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Reggie makes 15 this year, 16 next, 17 then 18M. Wasn't concerned about this year as a wash to Green.
Biz has not shown any competency in being a starting center. You'd be playing 4 on 5.

so he showed nothing in the time he was starting and we had a top defense and everything was clicking? everyone seems to forget about that, while somehow it died, we still had a legit team, something happened that killed it, just cuz you dont like his pay doesnt mean he isn't starting quality


You mean that run were we went 10-13??? Ok.
as a starter (27mpg) he was only putting up 7ppg & 8rebs. His PER is below replacement. I want him to be better, but that is a lot of hope. Also overlapped with AG moving back to starter.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2017_start.html


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Post#1399 » by JBSouthpaw » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:53 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:
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Biz would become starting Center and he will flourish with this line-up as they will hide his offensive deficiencies, aslo reggie makes 15mil and the cap goes up


Reggie makes 15 this year, 16 next, 17 then 18M. Wasn't concerned about this year as a wash to Green.
Biz has not shown any competency in being a starting center. You'd be playing 4 on 5.


also dont you realize any pg we try to sign will cost much more then reggie makes? think about this if we trade for reggie do you really think thats the final move? dont you think we are more then likely after butler or PG13, not saying we get them but if we get what we are going after you have to realize our pick will be involved


Yes, any top flight PG will make $20+ season. I'd rather pay the extra $4M to get one of those.

Also, don't you realize, we are heading into the riches PG draft in a long time. So we are going to Over pay a backup PG? or have a top 5 pick sit the bench??
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Post#1400 » by magicfan4life88 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:54 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:
magicfan4life88 wrote:
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Reggie makes 15 this year, 16 next, 17 then 18M. Wasn't concerned about this year as a wash to Green.
Biz has not shown any competency in being a starting center. You'd be playing 4 on 5.

so he showed nothing in the time he was starting and we had a top defense and everything was clicking? everyone seems to forget about that, while somehow it died, we still had a legit team, something happened that killed it, just cuz you dont like his pay doesnt mean he isn't starting quality


You mean that run were we went 10-13??? Ok.
as a starter (27mpg) he was only putting up 7ppg & 8rebs. His PER is below replacement. I want him to be better, but that is a lot of hope. Also overlapped with AG moving back to starter.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2017_start.html

10 AND 13 IS ALOT BETTER THEN OUR CURRENT RECORD, AND WE WERE ALSO SHOWING PROMISE, EVEN WITH AG PLAYING OUT OF POSITION AND US HAVING A WEAK OFFENSE
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