fleet wrote:
That's a funky looking fella
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fleet wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:fleet wrote:
That's a funky looking fella
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
fleet wrote:patryk7754 wrote:fleet wrote:
That's a funky looking fella
The more I consider the fallout of this move, the Bears are missing one thing that he needs to succeed, and that is a clean pocket. The Bears have to come out of this draft with a DB, and a OT. They should be trading down and picking up a tackle, and obviously with the low amount of tackles, it has to be one of the guys that have a 1st round grade. One thing Jay Cutler will be glad to be away from, is the Bears O-Line.
RedBulls83 wrote:fleet wrote:patryk7754 wrote:That's a funky looking fella
The more I consider the fallout of this move, the Bears are missing one thing that he needs to succeed, and that is a clean pocket. The Bears have to come out of this draft with a DB, and a OT. They should be trading down and picking up a tackle, and obviously with the low amount of tackles, it has to be one of the guys that have a 1st round grade. One thing Jay Cutler will be glad to be away from, is the Bears O-Line.
Yeah, completely with you on that.
When is the last time the Bears had a competent oline? Seems like a mythical creature that doesn't exist. Just like the QB position in this town.
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
transplant wrote:If you want a QB who is completely ready to run a NFL offense, there are a handful of free agents who fit the bill. If you want one who is under 30 and might be more than just a bridge, there's Mike Glennon.
Smart contract and good signing.
fleet wrote:Who was the last good QB 6' 6 or over? IDK.
fleet wrote:The more I consider the fallout of this move, the Bears are missing one thing that he needs to succeed, and that is a clean pocket. The Bears have to come out of this draft with a DB, and a OT. They should be trading down and picking up a tackle, and obviously with the low amount of tackles, it has to be one of the guys that have a 1st round grade. One thing Jay Cutler will be glad to be away from, is the Bears O-Line.
chitownsports4ever wrote:City of Trees wrote:chitownsports4ever wrote:
Id rather have Hoyer and either Gilmore and Bouye and then the Demps signing and i would consider that winning so far but right now this is not looking good .
Hoyer us a dead end with the writing already in the wall. At least with Glennon there is potential to be good. Given the cap situation, I prefer the gamble on Glennon over signing Hoyer.
Also, Gilmore was overpaid, Hard pass. On the other hand Bouye I'd consider overpaying.
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How was Gilmore overpaid ? You think the cheapo Pats decided to overpay for Gilmore when they had Butler already ?
Everyone knew that Gilmore and Bouye were gonna set the market so its one thing to talk like you wanna stomp with the biog dogs but at some point you gotta put your money where your mouth is .
No matter how you try and add it up Hoyer + Gilmore/Bouye + Demps is better than Glennon + Demps .
You focus on getting Glennon but neither of the top DBs and you failed
Not to mention why are we still even talking to Alshon if you want him sign him if not move on . The Bears are cash flush and still trying to squeeze blood out of a rock
heir_jordan22 wrote:We don't know if we would've signed Demps of we git Gilmore or Bouye. Nor do we know if we're done adding corners to our roster. This is premature criticism
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chitownsports4ever wrote:heir_jordan22 wrote:We don't know if we would've signed Demps of we git Gilmore or Bouye. Nor do we know if we're done adding corners to our roster. This is premature criticism
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Demps and Gilmore were presented by the same agent so its safe to say that if we locked up Gilmore on the 8th like we should have that we couldve still talked to and moved away from Jefferson and his 8 mil dollar price tag early on the 9th and Demps wouldve still been there like he was .
We ended up signing Prince who didnt have a pick last year when we had a chance to grab 25 yr old pro bowl caliber Dbs .
Some of you must not have been following this situation for the last few weeks because if you have been listening to Pace since the end of the year there is no way that whats going on is in any way close to what how he said the bears were prepared to to attack free agency .
Pace's entire strategy blew up in their faces this year
Betta Bulleavit wrote:fleet wrote:Who was the last good QB 6' 6 or over? IDK.
The 6'6 benchmark is rather arbitrary if you ask me. While I can't really name any to answer your question, there have been tons of 6'4 and 6'5 guys that have been fantastic. Brady, Manning, Roethlesberger, Newton, Warner and Ryan just to name a few. If Glennon isn't great, I highly doubt that it will have anything to do with an inch or two.
transplant wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:fleet wrote:Who was the last good QB 6' 6 or over? IDK.
The 6'6 benchmark is rather arbitrary if you ask me. While I can't really name any to answer your question, there have been tons of 6'4 and 6'5 guys that have been fantastic. Brady, Manning, Roethlesberger, Newton, Warner and Ryan just to name a few. If Glennon isn't great, I highly doubt that it will have anything to do with an inch or two.
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Gruden sees Joe Flacco as a reasonable comp to Glennon both in terms of body type (6'6") and style (stationary downfield pocket passer). Passer ratings are similar as well.
I've never been a big Flacco fan and when he got the biggest contract ever I thought that was kinda crazy, but I'll take Flacco-like production.
heir_jordan22 wrote:[
And what was his strategy? Overpay on two or three guys so they can't address the other 7 or 8 needs?
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chitownsports4ever wrote:heir_jordan22 wrote:[
And what was his strategy? Overpay on two or three guys so they can't address the other 7 or 8 needs?
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How would paying Gilmore stop him from picking up any of these other guys ?
He couldve picked up Gilmore and still had space to grab everyone else hes grabbing now.
the excuse you are trying to make for him does not really apply so this situation
If he grabbed jefferson and Gilmore they are 25 years old and he fills two major holes for the next 5 years instead he has Demps and Price who both may not be here next year and we are right back in the situation again ?
Going into the draft if you take a DB in the first rd then WR and OT are very much open to you in that scenario.
but even if you believe that Glennon has upside the question comes well why didnt Pace put any money besides helping him bring that talent to fruition .
You sign a starting tackle
You sign Alshon
If you dont want Alshon fine you grab another starting quality receiver for the guy to throw the ball too. Heck GO GET Pryor but this risk adverse philosophy has backfired right now .
fleet wrote:Who was the last good QB 6' 6 or over? IDK.