Jayson Tatum

[reanimator]

Just curious...which franchise player could you pair Tatum with as a complimentary piece?

Almost all of them. I think almost all franchise players would love a 19 year old two way wing with one of the best scoring skill sets we've seen come into the draft in awhile.

I think a very poor narrative of Tatum being some guy that can't play within a team system and just stops the ball is not correct.

I simply don't see a franchise perimeter player playing off ball much so Tatum can work in the half-court at lower efficiency....he isn't a Kyrie to anyones Lebron. He might not be a ball stopper but he isn't ideal off ball either.

[The-Power]

Still my biggest issue with Tatum is I don't think he is good enough to demand the usage needed to take the ball out of an elite perimeter player's hands in order to play to his strengths.

Funny as I have similar concerns regarding DSJ (or even more so Fox) for the time being. Tatum's skillset can be used sporadically without problem and it's not like Tatum's skillset necessarily requires a huge on-ball role to be effective. Sure, if you want him to score 25+ PPG then you need to give him the ball but that's true for any (perimeter) player really and you only want him to have such a high usage when he justifies it anyway.

[RookieStar]

How tall is he now? Dude looks taller every time I see him on TV. lol

Good question. For me, he looks taller than A.Jefferson when they are standing together and isn't AJ supposed to be 6'10?

Amile is 6'8. He is 6'7 without shoes. I think Tatum will end up being 6'8.5 with shoes

He is? I always see is height listed in websites as 6'9-'10. Ah well, good to know.

[Duke4life831]

Good question. For me, he looks taller than A.Jefferson when they are standing together and isn't AJ supposed to be 6'10?

Amile is 6'8. He is 6'7 without shoes. I think Tatum will end up being 6'8.5 with shoes

He is? I always see is height listed in websites as 6'9-'10. Ah well, good to know.

Ya Duke always exaggerates their players heights. Amile is only 6'7 without shoes and I dont think Tatum is all that much taller than Amile.

[RookieStar]

Amile is 6'8. He is 6'7 without shoes. I think Tatum will end up being 6'8.5 with shoes

He is? I always see is height listed in websites as 6'9-'10. Ah well, good to know.

Ya Duke always exaggerates their players heights. Amile is only 6'7 without shoes and I dont think Tatum is all that much taller than Amile.

LOL, doesn't everybody?

[Duke4life831]

He is? I always see is height listed in websites as 6'9-'10. Ah well, good to know.

Ya Duke always exaggerates their players heights. Amile is only 6'7 without shoes and I dont think Tatum is all that much taller than Amile.

LOL, doesn't everybody?

Haha ya that is true. I just laugh when I see things like Amile being 6'10 or Grayson being 6'5 when neither are close to those numbers. But ya all schools do it haha.

[RookieStar]

Not only schools but my fave NBA team as well. We used to have a 6'0 Jameer Nelson and a "supposedly" 7'0 Dwight Howard before.

What is Grayson's height? I follow Duke and I don't see Grayson aor Amile in any mock drafts. I think Amile has more talent than some of Duke's other prospects before.

[Duke4life831]

Not only schools but my fave NBA team as well. We used to have a 6'0 Jameer Nelson and a "supposedly" 7'0 Dwight Howard before.

What is Grayson's height? I follow Duke and I don't see Grayson aor Amile in any mock drafts. I think Amile has more talent than some of Duke's other prospects before.

I think Grayson is closer to 6'3 than 6'5. Wont be surprised if he measured right at 6'4 with shoes. The problem with Amile is hes not athletic and has 0 offense outside of 3 feet. So hes a 6'8 PF thats not a rim protector and is slow laterally and offensively he cant spread the floor at all. That type of player has 0 place in the NBA today.

[The-Power]

What is Grayson's height? I follow Duke and I don't see Grayson aor Amile in any mock drafts.

Allen is - on average - projected to be a 2nd round pick I'd say. His mental issues are obviously looming large which makes him rather unpredictable in terms of draft stock.

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OT but: Are you happy with the bracket? Troy, South Carolina, Baylor, Vilanova and Kansas is your route to the Championship Game (vs. North Carolina) if we simply go by rankings. I'd say the route to the Final Four is not that difficult (relative to what could have been). And to get on topic a bit: any particular Tatum match-up you're looking forward to? Obviously Tatum against Jackson would be awesome (and the first and only college match-up for them) and North Carolina's bigs are always a handful. But maybe we'll see him matched up against Motley for extended minutes which would be a really tough match-up defensively.

[EricAnderson]

Just curious...which franchise player could you pair Tatum with as a complimentary piece?

Always hard with ISO guys

Melo as an example as talented as he is it's always hard to fit pieces around him

Yeah, if a team has the requisite pieces for Tatum then I could see him being grouped in with the big 4 but otherwise he just doesn't offer the level of roster flexibility that I see with that group....even if he is just as talented in a vacuum.

The positive example you can bring up is Paul Pierce but even he was bashed awhile till he got Allen and KG

[Duke4life831]

What is Grayson's height? I follow Duke and I don't see Grayson aor Amile in any mock drafts.

Allen is - on average - projected to be a 2nd round pick I'd say. His mental issues are obviously looming large which makes him rather unpredictable in terms of draft stock.

[...]

OT but: Are you happy with the bracket? Troy, South Carolina, Baylor, Vilanova and Kansas is your route to the Championship Game (vs. North Carolina) if we simply go by rankings. I'd say the route to the Final Four is not that difficult (relative to what could have been). And to get on topic a bit: any particular Tatum match-up you're looking forward to? Obviously Tatum against Jackson would be awesome (and the first and only college match-up for them) and North Carolina's bigs are always a handful. But maybe we'll see him matched up against Motley for extended minutes which would be a really tough match-up defensively.

Kansas is on the other side of the bracket, it would be Gonzaga or Zona in the final 4 to get to the championship. I love the draw, im very happy that Duke didnt get the 1 seed and UNC got it. No one in Duke's region really worries me, I think they match up extremely well against Nova and only SMU scares me before that game. Zona would be a real tough match up but that would be in the F4 and you have to expect a tough match up there.

[The-Power]

Kansas is on the other side of the bracket, it would be Gonzaga or Zona in the final 4 to get to the championship.

You're right, I got the first seed rankings mixed up. I'd rather have to deal with Gonzaga or Arizona than Kansas or North Carolina (Kentucky/UCLA) in the Final Four, so even better for you guys.

[RookieStar]

Not only schools but my fave NBA team as well. We used to have a 6'0 Jameer Nelson and a "supposedly" 7'0 Dwight Howard before.

What is Grayson's height? I follow Duke and I don't see Grayson aor Amile in any mock drafts. I think Amile has more talent than some of Duke's other prospects before.

I think Grayson is closer to 6'3 than 6'5. Wont be surprised if he measured right at 6'4 with shoes. The problem with Amile is hes not athletic and has 0 offense outside of 3 feet. So hes a 6'8 PF thats not a rim protector and is slow laterally and offensively he cant spread the floor at all. That type of player has 0 place in the NBA today.

Ah I see... hello Europe then.

[Kolkmania]

What is Grayson's height? I follow Duke and I don't see Grayson aor Amile in any mock drafts.

Allen is - on average - projected to be a 2nd round pick I'd say. His mental issues are obviously looming large which makes him rather unpredictable in terms of draft stock.

[...]

OT but: Are you happy with the bracket? Troy, South Carolina, Baylor, Vilanova and Kansas is your route to the Championship Game (vs. North Carolina) if we simply go by rankings. I'd say the route to the Final Four is not that difficult (relative to what could have been). And to get on topic a bit: any particular Tatum match-up you're looking forward to? Obviously Tatum against Jackson would be awesome (and the first and only college match-up for them) and North Carolina's bigs are always a handful. But maybe we'll see him matched up against Motley for extended minutes which would be a really tough match-up defensively.

Kansas is on the other side of the bracket, it would be Gonzaga or Zona in the final 4 to get to the championship. I love the draw, im very happy that Duke didnt get the 1 seed and UNC got it. No one in Duke's region really worries me, I think they match up extremely well against Nova and only SMU scares me before that game. Zona would be a real tough match up but that would be in the F4 and you have to expect a tough match up there.

I've been kind of disappointed in Tatum's defensive effort lately. He's obviously doing a much better job playing within his role offensively, but I think his rim protection hasn't been on the same level and he's not battling hard enough against the bigs imo.

The poor perimeter defense in combination with an Amile Jefferson/Jayson Tatum/Harry Giles rotation will put so much pressure on Duke's three point percentage. It's going to be a huge task for Duke to outscore every opponent day in, day out, throughout the tournament. Personally I'll be looking forward between a possible Jayson Tatum, Jonathan Motley matchup (Duke - Kansas will be the dream of course). It's such a shame that K wasn't able to implement Bolden succesfully, I know his effort has been up and down, but his standing reach would have been a welcome addition to the rotation.

[No-Man]

Amile is at the very least 6'10 in shoes, he probably has no shot at the NBA level unless he either shoots it or bulks up a bit but can be really good in Europe as a small ball C.



Real State Zoubek is at least 7'0, Plumlee too, while Seth is 6'2.

[Kolkmania]

Amile is at the very least 6'10 in shoes, he probably has no shot at the NBA level unless he either shoots it or bulks up a bit but can be really good in Europe as a small ball C.



Real State Zoubek is at least 7'0, Plumlee too, while Seth is 6'2.

How can you be so certain based on a picture which includes no context at all? Perhaps Amile was standing on his toes, Curry is leaning backwards, Plumlee wearing flip-flops, etc.

[CptCrunch]

So Tatum was measured to be 6'7" without shoes back in 2015. That is legit SF size.
Melo is 6'6", LeBron is 6'7".

Recent pics with him around Giles shows that he is only a tad bit smaller. I don't think he actually wants to get taller. Being forced into the PF role is not something he wants early in his career. If he measures 6'8" without shoes, calling it now, he is going #3.

High school: https://usathss.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/cjt_iepukae-hqx.png?w=640

Duke: http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/marques-bolden-jayson-tatum-and-harry-giles-of-the-duke-blue-devils-picture-id624040124?s=594x594

http://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2016/11/12/3e00df7e-2938-4e40-8e13-eec55a6a85ac/thumbnail/770x433/fe1c1d97d2f69a483ccfa1008cb39d6c/64934345.jpg

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/luke-kennard-frank-jackson-grayson-allen-jayson-tatum-and-harry-giles-picture-id650087028?s=594x594

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/harry-giles-and-jayson-tatum-of-the-duke-blue-devils-react-after-a-picture-id633005788

The dude looks tall to me

[RookieStar]

Why though? Durant s probably a 6'11 and still plays SF. Tatum being 6'10 would still be a good SF

[CptCrunch]

Why though? Durant s probably a 6'11 and still plays SF. Tatum being 6'10 would still be a good SF

Durant is an outlier. Most players can't keep his physical profile and be effective. Larger SF in the league bulk up and become LeBron/Melo type players within 5 years. Another inch beyond 6'8" takes away from his SF quickness and pidgeonholes him into PF sooner in his career. I think Tatum is best played at SF.

[Upperclass]

Tatum looks a legit 6'10 to me. He'll probably measure 6'8.5 or 6'9 without shoes