2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2

Negrodamus · Post #1101 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:37 am

I need Thornwell on the Sixers. It has to happen. He's a beast.

Negrodamus · Post #1102 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:43 am

South Carolina's zone is suffocating. They are also playing a better game offensively. Duke trying to win on talent alone.

shawn_hemp · Post #1103 » by **shawn_hemp** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:46 am

Malik Monk with some nice passes and defensive stops today

Yeah he's just an undersized catch and shoot who can't dribble tho

Mik317 · Post #1104 » by **Mik317** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:56 am

shawn_hemp wrote:Malik Monk with some nice passes and defensive stops today

Yeah he's just an undersized catch and shoot who can't dribble tho

tbf he has been pretty bad over this recent stretch at times

Negrodamus · Post #1105 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:58 am

Thornwell is on the same level as Saric in terms of BBIQ, especially on defense. Draws fouls while reading the defenders actions. Gets in position for rebounds. Strips drivers. I mean, he's the MVP of college basketball this year. USC is a mediocre team, if that, this year without him.

Negrodamus · Post #1106 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:01 am

USC is outplaying Duke at the end of this game. Drew a charge that was horrifically called a block in favor of Duke. Thornwell threw a laser pass into the post for an easy shot, missed, but O-reb refreshed the shot clock to drain more time off the clock and finished the possession with a trip to the line. Just a masterful 2 minutes for them.

sixerswillrule · Post #1107 » by **sixerswillrule** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:05 am

I always get confused when a college team is able to call a timeout after they make a shot.

shawn_hemp · Post #1108 » by **shawn_hemp** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:06 am

Mik317 wrote:
shawn_hemp wrote:Malik Monk with some nice passes and defensive stops today

Yeah he's just an undersized catch and shoot who can't dribble tho

tbf he has been pretty bad over this recent stretch at times

He will go off on UCLA. This guy doesn't stay in slumps for long

clutch player

Duke going down

Negrodamus · Post #1109 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:09 am

All the other SC players are trying to blow this right now while Sindarius is throwing hail mary's for easy baskets to beat Duke's press.

Mik317 · Post #1110 » by **Mik317** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:16 am

too old doe

Negrodamus · Post #1111 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:29 am

So was Isaiah Thomas, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green.

Mik317 · Post #1112 » by **Mik317** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:43 am

Negrodamus wrote:So was Isaiah Thomas, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green.

oh I know. was joking.

I think talent is talent. Yes having younger talent is ideal but eventually just get the best players and worry about that later.

but hey we have reached a time where being 20 makes you too old and a worse prospect.

shawn_hemp · Post #1113 » by **shawn_hemp** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:46 am

#2037 Mock Draft

shawn_hemp · Post #1114 » by **shawn_hemp** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:49 am

Lonzo Ball does seem like a good dude in the interviews though. I don't think he will have any problems in the NBA as far as that goes.

I think his dad will get played out once Lonzo finally gets drafted and people turn to wait and see mode for his NBA career.

I don't think Lonzo will not want to play for anyone besides the Lakers, I think that's just noise from his dad

Post #1115 » by **Marcus** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:10 am

shawn_hemp wrote:Malik Monk with some nice passes and defensive stops today

Yeah he's just an undersized catch and shoot who can't dribble tho

Showed a little more today. He'll need to bring that along with some consistency doing those things to the next level.

LloydFree · Post #1116 » by **LloydFree** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:39 am

Marcus wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
juice4080 wrote:i got a mancrush on josh jackson...i've never seen a young player with his bball IQ and all around game....the sixers drafting him would be a dream come true

Josh Jackson is going to be a superstar in the league. He had a 10 minute stretch in the 1st half on Friday, where he looked like Julius Erving.

Been waiting on him to get his turn this year. Josh never lost number one on my board. Glad folks can finally see it and understand what we're dealing with and they can let go of the age BS.

I probably should have him #1, because he seems to have the most upside. But I'm still at Ball #1 and Jackson #2. I think Ball is the surer thing, but Jackson could be way ahead of him once he gets in the league. He's the only other player I think is on his tier. It's mind boggling to me that anybody else in this draft is considered on his level.

Kolkmania · Post #1117 » by **Kolkmania** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:14 am

LloydFree wrote:
Marcus wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Josh Jackson is going to be a superstar in the league. He had a 10 minute stretch in the 1st half on Friday, where he looked like Julius Erving.

Been waiting on him to get his turn this year. Josh never lost number one on my board. Glad folks can finally see it and understand what we're dealing with and they can let go of the age BS.

I probably should have him #1, because he seems to have the most upside. But I'm still at Ball #1 and Jackson #2. I think Ball is the surer thing, but Jackson could be way ahead of him once he gets in the league. He's the only other player I think is on his tier. It's mind boggling to me that anybody else in this draft is considered on his level.

Upside based on what? He's older than the other top prospects, not extremely quick, decent size for a forward, with a somewhat underwhelming wingspan and superb athleticism. Jackson is a tremendous player and will absolutely become a two-way contributor in the NBA. But at what aspect of the game is he elite?

Kolkmania · Post #1118 » by **Kolkmania** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:20 am

I'm not as big on Jackson (and Ball) as most of you guys, but Jayson Tatum, De'Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, Miles Bridges and Jonathan Isaac grew on me throughout the season. Dennis Smith has been the biggest disappointment and even he might blossom in the NBA, since he has all the tools, skillwise and physically.

As long as we're maintaining this 5th spot we'll be fine, don't think there's a huge drop-off in potential between 2nd and 8th spot. A PG like Smith would be great, a forward that complements Embiid/Simmons like Tatum and Isaac will be intriguing and Monk is the obvious fit.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1119 » by **Unbreakable99** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:10 am

Read on Twitter

LloydFree · Post #1120 » by **LloydFree** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:32 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Josh Jackson is so much better than Andrew Wiggins that it isn't close. Wiggins was a prospect list/mixtape creation. Jackson has better body control, better lateral movement, has a better basketball IQ, is a much better finisher, a much better passer and Josh Jackson's handle is 10x better than Wiggins.