2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2

[Negrodamus]

I don't speculate on stuff like that. Possible witness to an incident does not = alleged perpetrator. Frank Mason was a possible witness also. Maybe you know something more.

I made an edit, but it's not really speculation if Self is suspending him for the incident. He started damaging the car once she locked herself in it. Might be a one time incident, but the professional sports world is growing exceedingly cautious about domestic violence (and rightly so).

Ok. I got you. We're talking about different incidents. I didn't see anything more that could come of that.

Wait, has he been in a separate incident from the one where he messed up the girl's car?

[LloydFree]

Let's say we drafted DSJ or Fox. Since Simmons is going to run the offense would that mean they wouldn't start? I don't think TJ would be a good fit with Simmons. I don't think any of them would be a good fit with Simmons. Would DSJ or Fox even start? And would they even be ahead of TJ? Do you think even if we draft DSJ or Fox that TJ would start over them or come off the bench ahead of them?

I don't think DSj and Fox are similar. Fox wouldn't fit, and I doubt he'd start. I'd expect his impact early in his career to be like Elfrid Payton. DSj has far better Offensive potential. He's not a deadeye, catch and shoot guard, but he can hit a shot. Fox won't be able to shoot early on. DSj is also a more creative passer and sees the floor better than Fox.

[LloydFree]

I made an edit, but it's not really speculation if Self is suspending him for the incident. He started damaging the car once she locked herself in it. Might be a one time incident, but the professional sports world is growing exceedingly cautious about domestic violence (and rightly so).

Ok. I got you. We're talking about different incidents. I didn't see anything more that could come of that.

Wait, has he been in a separate incident from the one where he messed up the girl's car?

I believe there was an Incident in the athletes dorm on campus where they questioned multiple possible witnesses to an assault on a woman.

[TheAntiTrump]

Me....I can't wait for the Kentucky/UCLA Match-up part 2. I wanna see how Monk/Fox do in this one against the Mighty Bruins and Ball. Monk did very well in their first game. His speed and athleticism was a nightmare for UCLA. I wanna see how they adjust to him in this game.

[Kobblehead]

Bam Adebayo and T.J. Leaf are really good freshman performers. But man, I see little to no appeal in them as professionals.

[LloydFree]

Bam Adebayo and T.J. Leaf are really good freshman performers. But man, I see little to no appeal in them as professionals.

I can see Adebayo being similar to Tarik Black. And I think Adebayo has more stand still shooting potential and quicker feet.

** TJ Leaf, I don't see it either.

[Unbreakable99]

Every team could use a Bam. Hustler. Gets boards. He could be similar to a Taj Gibson.

[Negrodamus]

Every team could use a Bam. Hustler. Gets boards. He could be similar to a Taj Gibson.

My question is if the hustle is real. We spent about 70% of the season waiting for a five star prospect in Dwight's body with Dwight's athleticism to show hustle, but instead got current Dwight's motor.

[Kobblehead]

Some of the reasons we dislike Okafor is because he can't protect the rim, he's weak as hell on the glass and his motor comes and goes. All three of those things describe Bam to a T.

[LloydFree]

Some of the reasons we dislike Okafor is because he can't protect the rim, he's weak as hell on the glass and his motor comes and goes. All three of those things describe Bam to a T.

Adebayo is stiff in the upper body, but he has much quicker feet and lateral movement than Okafor. It's no comparison. Even if Okafor gave any effort, and had any defensive awareness he'd still a be near useless on defense. He just doesn't move well enough to guard the perimeter or give help.

[Arsenal]

Bam might be a solid contributor as a role player one day. Not interested in taking him in the first round though. Guys like him just aren't valued that much in today's game.

[Kobblehead]

Some of the reasons we dislike Okafor is because he can't protect the rim, he's weak as hell on the glass and his motor comes and goes. All three of those things describe Bam to a T.

Adebayo is stiff in the upper body, but he as much quicker feet and lateral movement than Okafor. It's no comparison. Even if Okafor gave any effort, and had any defensive awareness he'd still a be near useless on defense. He just doesn't move well enough to guard the perimeter or give help.

But why are we giving Bam a pass for not being able to rebound or protect the rim?

[LloydFree]

Some of the reasons we dislike Okafor is because he can't protect the rim, he's weak as hell on the glass and his motor comes and goes. All three of those things describe Bam to a T.

Adebayo is stiff in the upper body, but he as much quicker feet and lateral movement than Okafor. It's no comparison. Even if Okafor gave any effort, and had any defensive awareness he'd still a be near useless on defense. He just doesn't move well enough to guard the perimeter or give help.

But why are we giving Bam a pass for not being able to rebound or protect the rim?

Oh, I'm not giving him a pass. I wouldn't pick him in the lottery, specifically because he doesn't rebound as much as I think he should. But he does have the tools to defend on the perimeter. Okafor couldn't do that even if he made the effort. He doesn't have the tools to do it.

[Kobblehead]

I just don't want bigs that lack positional requisites.

I want our depth chart to be three deep at C with guys that can protect the rim and clean the defensive glass. Bam can't do either of those things.

[TheAntiTrump]

Not that we need ANY Big men really. But, if I was allowed to use one of our 4, 2nd rounders on a sleeper...I really kinda like the " Grit " and " Hustle " of Valparaiso's " Alec Peters " I know all the great super smart posters here...smarter then I will ever be can point to him not being very tall, or athletic or long. But on this years BAD Valparaiso team...Peters still did well. And if you click on the link below, you can see he has some stretch-like abilities. I mean C'mon...could spending our very latest 2nd rounder on him be very much of a huge risk ???



http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66821/alec-peters

[Kobblehead]

Not that we need ANY Big men really. But, if I was allowed to use one of our 4, 2nd rounders on a sleeper...I really kinda like the " Grit " and " Hustle " of Valparaiso's " Alec Peters " I know all the great super smart posters here...smarter then I will ever be can point to him not being very tall, or athletic or long. But on this years BAD Valparaiso team...Peters still did well. And if you click on the link below, you can see he has some stretch-like abilities. I mean C'mon...could spending our very latest 2nd rounder on him be very much of a huge risk ???



http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66821/alec-peters

Alec Peters is extremely skilled, but he suffered a late season stress fracture in his leg. He's a guy I'd keep an eye on to give a 15 day contract to if he performs well in the D-League next year. I wouldn't spend a draft pick on him this summer, though.

[PhilasFinest]

Not that we need ANY Big men really. But, if I was allowed to use one of our 4, 2nd rounders on a sleeper...I really kinda like the " Grit " and " Hustle " of Valparaiso's " Alec Peters " I know all the great super smart posters here...smarter then I will ever be can point to him not being very tall, or athletic or long. But on this years BAD Valparaiso team...Peters still did well. And if you click on the link below, you can see he has some stretch-like abilities. I mean C'mon...could spending our very latest 2nd rounder on him be very much of a huge risk ???



http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66821/alec-peters

TBH, We could use another big. Obviously not with a 1st rounder, but Id certainly take a shot on a defensive/rebounding big man in the 2nd round.Someone with size, a motor and who rebounds/blocks shots.

We have Holmes and Okafor. Okafor's future with the team is uncertain with all the trade rumors. Holmes is a decent 5/4.

Embiid is obviously our 5, but with talks on knee surgery now.....despite how awesome he is, his durability is a LEGIT concern.

Saric has really come on as a 4, and we have yet to see Simmons who may be more of a perimeter player. I like Long, but not sure how he projects long term.

Our "log jam" of bigs is way overrated now with Noel gone. We could 100% use another big body on a 2nd round contract.

[76ciology]

Am I crazy to say Miles Bridges over Tatum?

[Kolkmania]

If we're talking about underrated bigs, I have an irrational love for Ethan Happ. Center who can't hit a shot outside 3 feet, but he's such a gifted passer, willing screensetter and he cares about defense. Reminds me of our former center, Andrew Bogut.

Loves his hustle as well, imagine a TJ - Covington - Saric - Happ - Embiid lineup, I don't have the balls to sit courtside with that lineup ..

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[cksdayoff]

Am I crazy to say Miles Bridges over Tatum?

I would be scared to draft a tweener in the top 5