2018 NBA Draft

No-Man · Post #161 » by **No-Man** » Thu Mar 9, 2017 7:58 pm

Marcus wrote:.net updated their top five for 2018

Michael Porter
DeAndre Ayton
Wendell Carter
Luka Doncic
Trevon Duval

Bamba is 6th.

that seems surprinsingly fair, I think I'd have

Porter
Doncic
Ayton
Carter
Troy Brown

Post #162 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Mar 9, 2017 7:59 pm

Marcus wrote:.net updated their top five for 2018

Michael Porter
DeAndre Ayton
Wendell Carter
Luka Doncic
Trevon Duval

Bamba is 6th.

Love me some Wendell Carter, I think his ceiling is getting better and better but no way I would draft him before Bamba. Bamba has one of the highest defensive potential I can recall in a long long time.

SirChurros · Post #163 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:56 pm

Think you could make a strong case for Duval behind Porter.

Post #164 » by **Marcus** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:18 pm

Have It All wrote:Think you could make a strong case for Duval behind Porter.

Over the bigs? how so?

I love guards as much as the next guy and lord knows the league is geared to attack guards like Duvall but I'm still a pretty firm believer in size matters. Especially when we're talking about comparable skill level for the position.

SirChurros · Post #165 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:42 pm

Marcus wrote:
Have It All wrote:Think you could make a strong case for Duval behind Porter.

Over the bigs? how so?

I love guards as much as the next guy and lord knows the league is geared to attack guards like Duvall but I'm still a pretty firm believer in size matters. Especially when we're talking about comparable skill level for the position.

Bigs have a greater chance of busting, in my opinion, and Ayton feels like that to me. As for Bamba, I'm not sure if he ever reaches his potential. Duval is, at worst, 4th in this draft.

Derento · Post #166 » by **Derento** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:26 pm

Bigs usually get more exposed as they move up competitive levels.
So Ayton,Bamba,Carter will be show what they are made of when they play in college.

Post #167 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:40 pm

Marcus wrote:
Have It All wrote:Think you could make a strong case for Duval behind Porter.

Over the bigs? how so?

I love guards as much as the next guy and lord knows the league is geared to attack guards like Duvall but I'm still a pretty firm believer in size matters. Especially when we're talking about comparable skill level for the position.

Ayton is a massive dude who is extremely mobile and has great potential with his 3pt jumper.

Even if Bamba doesn't show an ounce of skill offensively he's still going to go before Duval. He's even longer than Gobert and much more athletic. He also has great timing defensively to go with the crazy length.

I've become a pretty big Duval fan since his move to IMG. Has really shown a ton of growth as a facilitator, the dude has been amazing running the PnR and finding guys out in transition this year. I also like that he's cleaned up his form on his jumper and it is a lot more consistent. But with that said, his jumper is still awful. PG's without a jumper is a big red flag in today's game.

I think the top 3 are pretty locked up right now, I think there is a race between Duval and Carter for that 4th spot. If Carter grows a little and gets to around 6'11 then his draft stock shoots up in my opinion and his name will be thrown in with the top 3.

Juree93 · Post #168 » by **Juree93** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:05 pm

draft express updated their rankings:

1. Doncic
2. Porter
3. Ayton
4. Bamba
5. Williams
6. Carter
7. Duval

No-Man · Post #169 » by **No-Man** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:06 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Have It All wrote:Think you could make a strong case for Duval behind Porter.

Over the bigs? how so?

I love guards as much as the next guy and lord knows the league is geared to attack guards like Duvall but I'm still a pretty firm believer in size matters. Especially when we're talking about comparable skill level for the position.

Ayton is a massive dude who is extremely mobile and has great potential with his 3pt jumper.

Even if Bamba doesn't show an ounce of skill offensively he's still going to go before Duval. He's even longer than Gobert and much more athletic. He also has great timing defensively to go with the crazy length.

I've become a pretty big Duval fan since his move to IMG. Has really shown a ton of growth as a facilitator, the dude has been amazing running the PnR and finding guys out in transition this year. I also like that he's cleaned up his form on his jumper and it is a lot more consistent. But with that said, his jumper is still awful. PG's without a jumper is a big red flag in today's game.

I think the top 3 are pretty locked up right now, I think there is a race between Duval and Carter for that 4th spot. If Carter grows a little and gets to around 6'11 then his draft stock shoots up in my opinion and his name will be thrown in with the top 3.

Doncic is going to be in that top3 if he declares, Ayton and Bamba can go really well or burn you a ton, I think I'll clearly take Porter and Doncic ahead of them at this point, then probably Ayton, Carter and Bamba, Duval is probably gonna fall down to 6th-10th range for me.

I think Doncic, Porter and Carter are the 3 guys I like the most, love Troy Brown Jr too, I like Jarred Vanderbilt quite a bit too, but I doubt he gets to showcase much at UK with the lack of spacing, MJ and Lonnie Walker are intriguing guys as well.
Nickeil Alexander-Walker is the type of do-it-all guard that thrives in the league these days, and the other canadian going to UK, is cut from the same mold.

I don't know much about the other bigs, Richards, McCoy and Robinson, and you have Anigbogu and maybe Allen from this year's there, Robert Williams too.

I think Andrew Jones can go top10 if he comes back, Frank Jackson and PJ Dozier could cement themselves in the 1st.

From the intl crop I am not so high on Musa and Bonga, but Kurucs, Kulboka, Simanic, Dos Anjos and Jeanne could rise quite a bit if they don't declare.

SirChurros · Post #170 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:19 pm

Duval, to me, just seems primed to be the next Westbrook (minus Westbrook's unmatchable fire) if he can knock down jumpers consistently.

The-Power · Post #171 » by **The-Power** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:04 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:I think the top 3 are pretty locked up right now, I think there is a race between Duval and Carter for that 4th spot.

Who do you have outside your top 3 (and top 5) of Bamba, Ayton, Porter and Doncic?

Derento · Post #172 » by **Derento** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:50 am

I feel like Carter will dominate in college with with his strength and build.

Post #173 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:00 am

The-Power wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:I think the top 3 are pretty locked up right now, I think there is a race between Duval and Carter for that 4th spot.

Who do you have outside your top 3 (and top 5) of Bamba, Ayton, Porter and Doncic?

I dont know anything about Doncic. So when i give top lists its just guys that are going through the high school and AAU system. I know Fischella and other guys that know over seas players are really high on Doncic but I know nothing on him.

So my top 5 right now are Porter, Ayton, Bamba, Carter and Duval. Then in my second tier I have Robert Williams, Ike and Sexton. Then my third tier I have Knox, Brown Jr and Frank Jackson.

reanimator · Post #174 » by **reanimator** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:18 pm

Juree93 wrote:draft express updated their rankings:

1. Doncic
2. Porter
3. Ayton
4. Bamba
5. Williams
6. Carter
7. Duval

If a team drafts Doncic first, they'll look back 3-4 years later and see 3-4 players they wished they had higher on their big board.

No-Man · Post #175 » by **No-Man** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:25 pm

reanimator wrote:
Juree93 wrote:draft express updated their rankings:

1. Doncic
2. Porter
3. Ayton
4. Bamba
5. Williams
6. Carter
7. Duval

If a team drafts Doncic first, they'll look back 3-4 years later and see 3-4 players they wished they had higher on their big board.

def could be the case, it's just way too early.
I think there are concerns about Ayton and Bamba that are fair to have, and Doncic is gonna be a guy that regardless of how he pans out isnt gonna limit your flexibility and likely will add to it.

like I said my top3 is probably Porter, Doncic, Carter, with Ayton and Troy Brown Jr following, Bamba and Duval to close the top7.
not sure yet after those.

SirChurros · Post #176 » by **SirChurros** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:55 pm

Admittedly haven't paid a ton of attention to Doncic, but what's the difference between him an Hezonja? They seem relatively similar from what I've seen, with Doncic being less athletic.

WalterBenjamin · Post #177 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:25 pm

Have It All wrote:Admittedly haven't paid a ton of attention to Doncic, but what's the difference between him an Hezonja? They seem relatively similar from what I've seen, with Doncic being less athletic.

Beside being white not that similar of players.

DaddyCool19 · Post #178 » by **DaddyCool19** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:56 pm

WalterBenjamin wrote:
Have It All wrote:Admittedly haven't paid a ton of attention to Doncic, but what's the difference between him an Hezonja? They seem relatively similar from what I've seen, with Doncic being less athletic.

Beside being white not that similar of players.

Don't forget to add that they are both european

Derento · Post #179 » by **Derento** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:19 pm

Michael Porter slashing is going be interesting to look at in college.
He looks extremely upright when he drives towards the rim.
Reminds me of Aaron Gordon in that regard.
I like his his jumpshot,footwork,bounce,off ball movement.
Want to see if he has great slashing potential.

Post #180 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:23 am

Have It All wrote:Duval, to me, just seems primed to be the next Westbrook (minus Westbrook's unmatchable fire) if he can knock down jumpers consistently.

Not the same athlete as Westbrook. Duval has elite quickness and shiftiness, his explosion isnt on the same level as Westbrook. Id put his leaping ability just a tier above Damian Lillard. Lillard has some nasty dunks in his career.