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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1281 » by Sixerscan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:09 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
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Kobblehead wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/3/24/15043720/lavar-ball-coach-run-ucla-nba-lonzo-liangelo-lamelo-chino-hills

You guys see this yet?


I'm not concerned. Parents can control high school teams. That rarely happens in college and never in the pros. Every player in the NBA is good and could but better than Ball. Brett Brown wouldn't cater to Lavar. What's Lavar going to do to Brett? He can't get him fired. Embiid and Simmons should be better than Ball.




In a way, a parent like Lavar CAN get a NBA Head Coach fired. Maybe not directly. But, if a Father who has constantly molded his kids like Lavar has, if he convinces his NBA Son that the coach is a detriment to his game/career...that player CAN get a Head Coach fired. This has been proven throughout sports.


The concern is really that he becomes a massive distraction and dealing with the fall out from his self centered side show takes away from focusing on basketball.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1282 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:13 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
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Kobblehead wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/3/24/15043720/lavar-ball-coach-run-ucla-nba-lonzo-liangelo-lamelo-chino-hills

You guys see this yet?


I'm not concerned. Parents can control high school teams. That rarely happens in college and never in the pros. Every player in the NBA is good and could but better than Ball. Brett Brown wouldn't cater to Lavar. What's Lavar going to do to Brett? He can't get him fired. Embiid and Simmons should be better than Ball.




In a way, a parent like Lavar CAN get a NBA Head Coach fired. Maybe not directly. But, if a Father who has constantly molded his kids like Lavar has, if he convinces his NBA Son that the coach is a detriment to his game/career...that player CAN get a Head Coach fired. This has been proven throughout sports.


I don't think there is a father of a player in NBA history who directly or indirectly got a coach fired.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1283 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:26 pm

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I'm not concerned. Parents can control high school teams. That rarely happens in college and never in the pros. Every player in the NBA is good and could but better than Ball. Brett Brown wouldn't cater to Lavar. What's Lavar going to do to Brett? He can't get him fired. Embiid and Simmons should be better than Ball.




In a way, a parent like Lavar CAN get a NBA Head Coach fired. Maybe not directly. But, if a Father who has constantly molded his kids like Lavar has, if he convinces his NBA Son that the coach is a detriment to his game/career...that player CAN get a Head Coach fired. This has been proven throughout sports.


The concern is really that he becomes a massive distraction and dealing with the fall out from his self centered side show takes away from focusing on basketball.


All I know is today when Carlin and Reese interview him they better as Lavar if Lonzo is better than Simmons and how Lonzo will do if Simmons is running the offense. I want him baited to give great quotes and drama lol.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1284 » by Sixerscan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:33 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
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TheAntiTrump wrote:


In a way, a parent like Lavar CAN get a NBA Head Coach fired. Maybe not directly. But, if a Father who has constantly molded his kids like Lavar has, if he convinces his NBA Son that the coach is a detriment to his game/career...that player CAN get a Head Coach fired. This has been proven throughout sports.


The concern is really that he becomes a massive distraction and dealing with the fall out from his self centered side show takes away from focusing on basketball.


All I know is today when Carlin and Reese interview him they better as Lavar if Lonzo is better than Simmons and how Lonzo will do if Simmons is running the offense. I want him baited to give great quotes and drama lol.


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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1285 » by TheAntiTrump » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:38 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
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Unbreakable99 wrote:
I'm not concerned. Parents can control high school teams. That rarely happens in college and never in the pros. Every player in the NBA is good and could but better than Ball. Brett Brown wouldn't cater to Lavar. What's Lavar going to do to Brett? He can't get him fired. Embiid and Simmons should be better than Ball.




In a way, a parent like Lavar CAN get a NBA Head Coach fired. Maybe not directly. But, if a Father who has constantly molded his kids like Lavar has, if he convinces his NBA Son that the coach is a detriment to his game/career...that player CAN get a Head Coach fired. This has been proven throughout sports.


I don't think there is a father of a player in NBA history who directly or indirectly got a coach fired.





There has never been a NBA Father like Lavar has there. He totally controls, or involves himself too much into his kids careers. And it will not get better...only worse. If those High school, and College age kids have not told their Dad to STFU by now...it won't ever happen. The dye has been cast. So no, maybe no NBA Father has ever gotten their NBA Sons to fire a coach. But like I said....Name one NBA players Father who was so publicly out there like Lavar has ?
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Post#1286 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:46 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
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The concern is really that he becomes a massive distraction and dealing with the fall out from his self centered side show takes away from focusing on basketball.


All I know is today when Carlin and Reese interview him they better as Lavar if Lonzo is better than Simmons and how Lonzo will do if Simmons is running the offense. I want him baited to give great quotes and drama lol.


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Because I find the whole thing funny. He's a character.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1287 » by Arsenal » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:50 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
TheAntiTrump wrote:


In a way, a parent like Lavar CAN get a NBA Head Coach fired. Maybe not directly. But, if a Father who has constantly molded his kids like Lavar has, if he convinces his NBA Son that the coach is a detriment to his game/career...that player CAN get a Head Coach fired. This has been proven throughout sports.


I don't think there is a father of a player in NBA history who directly or indirectly got a coach fired.





There has never been a NBA Father like Lavar has there. He totally controls, or involves himself too much into his kids careers. And it will not get better...only worse. If those High school, and College age kids have not told their Dad to STFU by now...it won't ever happen. The dye has been cast. So no, maybe no NBA Father has ever gotten their NBA Sons to fire a coach. But like I said....Name one NBA players Father who was so publicly out there like Lavar has ?


I don't agree with this. Why would you expect a high school or college kid to tell their dad to STFU when he pays their bills and they live under his roof?

It's way more likely for Lonzo to tell his dad to STFU after he's making millions of dollars and living far away from him.
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Post#1288 » by TheAntiTrump » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:57 pm

[quote="Arsenal"][quote="





I don't agree with this. Why would you expect a high school or college kid to tell their dad to STFU when he pays their bills and they live under his roof?






First off that is BS. Lonzo is 19, does not live with Daddy, and has been on his own for over a year. And second...just because IF kids live under your roof, that does not give Dad the right to do, and say what he has been doing. In your argument, that is like you saying..Oh, well since I feed my 15 year old Daughter, and put a roof over her head...that gives me the right to tape her in the shower and post it on Youtube.


I mean C'mon...don't be ridiculous.
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Post#1289 » by Arsenal » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:59 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
Arsenal wrote:[quote="





I don't agree with this. Why would you expect a high school or college kid to tell their dad to STFU when he pays their bills and they live under his roof?






First off that is BS. Lonzo is 19, does not live with Daddy, and has been on his own for over a year. And second...just because IF kids live under your roof, that does not give Dad the right to do, and say what he has been doing. In your argument, that is like you saying..Oh, well since I feed my 15 year old Daughter, and put a roof over her head...that gives me the right to tape her in the shower and post it on Youtube.


I mean C'mon...don't be ridiculous.


No, your example is ridiculous. Totally absurd.
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Post#1290 » by TheAntiTrump » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:02 pm

Arsenal wrote:
TheAntiTrump wrote:
Arsenal wrote:[quote="





I don't agree with this. Why would you expect a high school or college kid to tell their dad to STFU when he pays their bills and they live under his roof?






First off that is BS. Lonzo is 19, does not live with Daddy, and has been on his own for over a year. And second...just because IF kids live under your roof, that does not give Dad the right to do, and say what he has been doing. In your argument, that is like you saying..Oh, well since I feed my 15 year old Daughter, and put a roof over her head...that gives me the right to tape her in the shower and post it on Youtube.


I mean C'mon...don't be ridiculous.


No, your example is ridiculous. Totally absurd.





Okay well, we will just respectfully disagree then. Does not matter though. Lonzo will never be a Sixer. Even if we got the 2nd pick, and he was still there, no way will we select him there. Not our style of player, and is not athletic enough for us.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1291 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:08 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
TheAntiTrump wrote:


No, your example is ridiculous. Totally absurd.





Okay well, we will just respectfully disagree then. Does not matter though. Lonzo will never be a Sixer. Even if we got the 2nd pick, and he was still there, no way will we select him there. Not our style of player, and is not athletic enough for us.


Lonzo is exactly our style of player. He's a great space and pace player. He keeps the ball moving. He's unselfish. He can shoot. He's a great teammate. He's almost the perfect player for us.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1292 » by the_process » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:11 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
Arsenal wrote:[quote="





I don't agree with this. Why would you expect a high school or college kid to tell their dad to STFU when he pays their bills and they live under his roof?






First off that is BS. Lonzo is 19, does not live with Daddy, and has been on his own for over a year. And second...just because IF kids live under your roof, that does not give Dad the right to do, and say what he has been doing. In your argument, that is like you saying..Oh, well since I feed my 15 year old Daughter, and put a roof over her head...that gives me the right to tape her in the shower and post it on Youtube.


I mean C'mon...don't be ridiculous.



Good Lord, man.
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Post#1293 » by LloydFree » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:47 pm

SparksFly87 wrote:Monk reminds me of JJ Reddick with great athleticism .


76ers need Fultz badly. He has the size of a elite 2 guard and the offensive package to match. Wade/Harden 6'4-5 with 6'10/11 wingspan.


A Dennis Smith and Monk haul in the draft would be erry similar to Paul and Redick backcourt.



76ers have some shooters Roco, Luwawu, Stauskus and eventually Korkamaz. We need scorers badly Dennis Smith, Fultz , Tatum, Monk are the guys.

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Post#1294 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:51 pm

I'm going to start to temper my expectations for the pick. I'm going to assume we will pick 6 or 7 and hope DSJ is still there and just take him and hope for the best.
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Post#1295 » by Arsenal » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:53 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:I'm going to start to temper my expectations for the pick. I'm going to assume we will pick 6 or 7 and hope DSJ is still there and just take him and hope for the best.


Getting stuck with nothing but Dennis Smith in this draft would be just about the worst possible outcome.
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Post#1296 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:56 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:I'm going to start to temper my expectations for the pick. I'm going to assume we will pick 6 or 7 and hope DSJ is still there and just take him and hope for the best.


Getting stuck with nothing but Dennis Smith in this draft would be just about the worst possible outcome.


Well just prepare yourself by the time we pick for the hosts during the draft say the best available players remaining are DSJ Fox Markkenen Bridges lol. It's a very likely scenario. Who else would you want at 6 if Ball Fultz Jackson Tatum Issac are off the board? Maybe Monk could be available but that's not something that gets me that excited.
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Post#1297 » by Arsenal » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:59 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:I'm going to start to temper my expectations for the pick. I'm going to assume we will pick 6 or 7 and hope DSJ is still there and just take him and hope for the best.


Getting stuck with nothing but Dennis Smith in this draft would be just about the worst possible outcome.


Well just prepare yourself by the time we pick for the hosts during the draft say the best available players remaining are DSJ Fox Markkenen Bridges lol. It's a very likely scenario. Who else would you want at 6 if Ball Fultz Jackson Tatum Issac are off the board? Maybe Monk could be available but that's not something that gets me that excited.


I'm taking Malik Monk all day every day over Dennis Smith.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2 

Post#1298 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:06 pm

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Post#1299 » by phiphan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:10 pm

I've fallen out of love with this draft. At this point, I kind of hope the Lakers' pick doesn't convey, maybe give us another lotto shot next year at a TBD sure-fire star.
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Post#1300 » by Arsenal » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:35 pm

phiphan wrote:I've fallen out of love with this draft. At this point, I kind of hope the Lakers' pick doesn't convey, maybe give us another lotto shot next year at a TBD sure-fire star.


I tend to agree. This draft is very nice in the top 3, and pretty good but not all that special from 4 onwards which is where the Lakers pick would be if we get it.

The top 6 picks next year could easily be better than what is left at #4 or #5 this year with guys like DeAndre Ayton, Mohammed Bamba, Luka Doncic, Michael Porter, Wendell Carter, and Trevon Duval amongst others.

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