2016-17 Rookie Watch thread
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How is Hield's defense?
I've seen mostly offensive highlights, but when I've caught him playing live he seemed fine. I thought he looked a little small, but handled himself well. How has he looked in a larger sample size?
I've seen mostly offensive highlights, but when I've caught him playing live he seemed fine. I thought he looked a little small, but handled himself well. How has he looked in a larger sample size?
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24istheLAW wrote:On another note - we all laughed at the Kings for drafting Papagiannis but his box scores look solid. Is he actually playing well?
wanted to ask the same.
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12, 3 and 3 is good, but Saric is dropping 19, 7 and 3 while improving his advanced metrics down the March stretch. As good as Brogdon has been throughout the year, Saric came on like gangbusters and will probably be the runaway winner.
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Kobblehead wrote:12, 3 and 3 is good, but Saric is dropping 19, 7 and 3 while improving his advanced metrics down the March stretch. As good as Brogdon has been throughout the year, Saric came on like gangbusters and will probably be the runaway winner.
I agree that Saric's recent stretch has been the most impressive of any rookie we've seen this season (Embiid removed). With that being said, Brogdon's total body of work is stronger (given the overall consistency in a big role on a better ball club). It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out in voting as more and more voters are becoming aware of analytics where Brogdon holds advantages in nearly all of those metrics.
In the end it'll probably be Saric but the ultimate voting split could signal a change down the line with regards to the award.
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I'd prefer the advanced metric guy get rewarded with the award (Brogdon), but the counting stats guys almost always win the award. Has there ever been a RotY winner that never even won a Rookie of the Month during the season? I don't think Brogdon will get much consideration.
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Kobblehead wrote:I'd prefer the advanced metric guy get rewarded with the award (Brogdon), but the counting stats guys almost always win the award. Has there ever been a RotY winner that never even won a Rookie of the Month during the season? I don't think Brogdon will get much consideration.
Doesn't seem like it on the Rookie of the Month front in quite some time, though we've got a pretty unique situation with Embiid. Brogdon's received enough praise in the media to get plenty of consideration at this point. He was widely considered the favorite once Embiid went down.
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Brogdon is on pace to join Larry Bird, Stephen Curry and Deron Williams as the only NBA rookies to average more than 40 percent shooting from 3-point range.
WTF lol. Who is editing this? Obviously many more people than that shot 40% from 3 as rookies.
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Sixerscan wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Brogdon is on pace to join Larry Bird, Stephen Curry and Deron Williams as the only NBA rookies to average more than 40 percent shooting from 3-point range.
WTF lol. Who is editing this? Obviously many more people than that shot 40% from 3 as rookies.
That's very strange. I wonder how he even game up with that.
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Sixerscan wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Brogdon is on pace to join Larry Bird, Stephen Curry and Deron Williams as the only NBA rookies to average more than 40 percent shooting from 3-point range.
WTF lol. Who is editing this? Obviously many more people than that shot 40% from 3 as rookies.
I've been SAYING he's the next Larry Bird or Damjan Rudez, good to get some confirmation.
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skones wrote:Kobblehead wrote:12, 3 and 3 is good, but Saric is dropping 19, 7 and 3 while improving his advanced metrics down the March stretch. As good as Brogdon has been throughout the year, Saric came on like gangbusters and will probably be the runaway winner.
I agree that Saric's recent stretch has been the most impressive of any rookie we've seen this season (Embiid removed). With that being said, Brogdon's total body of work is stronger (given the overall consistency in a big role on a better ball club). It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out in voting as more and more voters are becoming aware of analytics where Brogdon holds advantages in nearly all of those metrics.
In the end it'll probably be Saric but the ultimate voting split could signal a change down the line with regards to the award.
No. This is extremely inaccurate. The race isn't close at all, it's easily Saric. it's actually hilarious how the media has been trying to keep pushing this Brogdon agenda.
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24istheLAW wrote:
On another note - we all laughed at the Kings for drafting Papagiannis but his box scores look solid. Is he actually playing well?
in fairness, we laughed because they had cousins, not because he was rubbish.
it does make you wonder if the Kings were so absolutely dead set on turfing Cousins that they were already gearing up to replace him in the off-season.
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Promezclan wrote:I've been SAYING he's the next Larry Bird or Damjan Rudez, good to get some confirmation.
I like this post.
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bwgood77 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Brogdon is on pace to join Larry Bird, Stephen Curry and Deron Williams as the only NBA rookies to average more than 40 percent shooting from 3-point range.
WTF lol. Who is editing this? Obviously many more people than that shot 40% from 3 as rookies.
That's very strange. I wonder how he even game up with that.
Coupled with a number of players who outscored Brogdon as rookies prior to the ASB.
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GabeCerebro wrote:skones wrote:Kobblehead wrote:12, 3 and 3 is good, but Saric is dropping 19, 7 and 3 while improving his advanced metrics down the March stretch. As good as Brogdon has been throughout the year, Saric came on like gangbusters and will probably be the runaway winner.
I agree that Saric's recent stretch has been the most impressive of any rookie we've seen this season (Embiid removed). With that being said, Brogdon's total body of work is stronger (given the overall consistency in a big role on a better ball club). It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out in voting as more and more voters are becoming aware of analytics where Brogdon holds advantages in nearly all of those metrics.
In the end it'll probably be Saric but the ultimate voting split could signal a change down the line with regards to the award.
No. This is extremely inaccurate. The race isn't close at all, it's easily Saric. it's actually hilarious how the media has been trying to keep pushing this Brogdon agenda.
It's really not. As I stated, Saric's recent stretch has been the most impressive save for Embiid, but Brogdon was flat out much better through the end of January. That's a pretty substantial portion of the season. I'd personally give it to Saric based on his late season explosion. He's been a monster.
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skones wrote:GabeCerebro wrote:skones wrote:
I agree that Saric's recent stretch has been the most impressive of any rookie we've seen this season (Embiid removed). With that being said, Brogdon's total body of work is stronger (given the overall consistency in a big role on a better ball club). It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out in voting as more and more voters are becoming aware of analytics where Brogdon holds advantages in nearly all of those metrics.
In the end it'll probably be Saric but the ultimate voting split could signal a change down the line with regards to the award.
No. This is extremely inaccurate. The race isn't close at all, it's easily Saric. it's actually hilarious how the media has been trying to keep pushing this Brogdon agenda.
It's really not. As I stated, Saric's recent stretch has been the most impressive save for Embiid, but Brogdon was flat out much better through the end of January. That's a pretty substantial portion of the season. I'd personally give it to Saric based on his late season explosion. He's been a monster.
It really doesn't matter what you stated, because you're being biased. Saric is nearly averaging 20-10-4 over the last like two months. It's not close. Regardless, it's Saric-Embiid-Brogdon in that order. The race isn't close.
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GabeCerebro wrote:skones wrote:GabeCerebro wrote:
No. This is extremely inaccurate. The race isn't close at all, it's easily Saric. it's actually hilarious how the media has been trying to keep pushing this Brogdon agenda.
It's really not. As I stated, Saric's recent stretch has been the most impressive save for Embiid, but Brogdon was flat out much better through the end of January. That's a pretty substantial portion of the season. I'd personally give it to Saric based on his late season explosion. He's been a monster.
It really doesn't matter what you stated, because you're being biased. Saric is nearly averaging 20-10-4 over the last like two months. It's not close. Regardless, it's Saric-Embiid-Brogdon in that order. The race isn't close.
Right, and you're not.
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I don't see how Saric doesn't win this.
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