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[puppa bear]

Would any of you guys take a chance on Harry Giles?

It would depend who else is left on the board. I would if my faves from that range are gone. I would need to see the picks before us before saying a definitive yes/no.

The thing with Harry is the monster upside - at some point that outweighs the injury concerns (unless he's 100% damaged goods). If our doctors trust he has no lingering physical issues from the surgeries, then in the range we're picking he has to be considered.

The comps coming out of HS were C-Webb, and he honestly hasn't gotten he burn to show much of anything, so we can't tell from his Duke stint. He's possibly the biggest unknown in college hoops at the moment, if not ever. He's coming in with the unknown of guys like Exum, Maker, Hezo, and other internationals who have very few big-minute games against quality opponents.

[RJM]

Would any of you guys take a chance on Harry Giles?

You don't waste a mid-first round pick on a guy that's had THREE reconstructive knee surgeries. Too much risk for the sort of talent you could easily get at that pick. This is a deep draft, too deep to waste a pick on him.

For example, Wesley Iwundu (K-State) is ranked #43 right now in DX's updated mock.

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Something tells me the front office has their eye on him. I could definitely see Spo molding this guy into a solid starting-caliber talent with enough time. There's something in this kid that could benefit Miami big time moving forward.

[RJM]

Guys like Kobi Simmons, VJ Beachem, Frank Mason III, Andrew White III (almost 24), look to be available late in the draft if Miami is interested in buying a pick or two. Summer league is going to be fantastic this year.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Guys like Kobi Simmons, VJ Beachem, Frank Mason III, Andrew White III (almost 24), look to be available late in the draft if Miami is interested in buying a pick or two. Summer league is going to be fantastic this year.

Dillon Brooks and Jaron Blossomgame too. Before the tournament I thought sindarius thornwell would've been an interesting pick in the 2nd but his stock is rising fast.

[RJM]

Miami has no choice but to win. There's enough talent in this draft (both rounds) to add to the melting pot Spo's stirring right now. As much as I would love for Miami to land Josh Jackson or Lonzo Ball, I have faith in this front office.

[Harjo]

Miami has no choice but to win. There's enough talent in this draft (both rounds) to add to the melting pot Spo's stirring right now. As much as I would love for Miami to land Josh Jackson or Lonzo Ball, I have faith in this front office.

I still think getting Hartenstein would be tremendous for us. He could become a nice little player and would fit right in without risking breaking our chemistry.

[Bishop45]

Feels like either Ojeleye or Anunoby for me now, Swanigan a good 3rd or fourth

Anunoby/ Ojeleye can both play the 4, but Ojeleye might have a lot more offensive upside, play the 3 while being 22 with a mediocre wingspan. Anunoby's 19 going on 20 with a monster Wingspan/ potential as a prototypical small ball 4

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Feels like either Ojeleye or Anunoby for me now, Swanigan a good 3rd or fourth

Anunoby/ Ojeleye can both play the 4, but Ojeleye might have a lot more offensive upside, play the 3 while being 22 with a mediocre wingspan. Anunoby's 19 going on 20 with a monster Wingspan/ potential as a prototypical small ball 4

Too bad Anunoby had an ACL tear(according to several sources). Don't think he's worth our pick anymore.

1.Hartenstein
2.Patton

Zach Collins at #2 if he decides to enter the draft.

Ojeleye doesn't have a high enough ceiling for me. If we draft Swanigan he needs to be put on the James Johnson diet system. I'm more worried about him defensively than offensively.

[Bishop45]

Feels like either Ojeleye or Anunoby for me now, Swanigan a good 3rd or fourth

Anunoby/ Ojeleye can both play the 4, but Ojeleye might have a lot more offensive upside, play the 3 while being 22 with a mediocre wingspan. Anunoby's 19 going on 20 with a monster Wingspan/ potential as a prototypical small ball 4

Too bad Anunoby had an ACL tear(according to several sources). Don't think he's worth our pick anymore.

1.Hartenstein
2.Patton

Zach Collins at #2 if he decides to enter the draft.

Ojeleye doesn't have a high enough ceiling for me. If we draft Swanigan he needs to be put on the James Johnson diet system. I'm more worried about him defensively than offensively.

They've got the most upside based on what we know (Injury makes Anunoby a little more unknown so I get that). We don't know much of anything about Hartenstein other than him being 7'0, just not a good enough sample size to put him over Swanigan, Leaf, etc. for me

What's really limiting about Semi?

[Cmon_Son-_-]

I hate this Duke pipeline we seem to have but I wouldn't upset if we picked Luke Kennard.

[J-House]

I hate this Duke pipeline we seem to have but I wouldn't upset if we picked Luke Kennard.

Another guard?

[Cmon_Son-_-]

I hate this Duke pipeline we seem to have but I wouldn't upset if we picked Luke Kennard.

Another guard?

Another Shooter is how I see it. I don't think a guard is position of need especially at our draft position but if we were to draft one I would want a knock shooter.


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[Feel_the_Heat15]

Feels like either Ojeleye or Anunoby for me now, Swanigan a good 3rd or fourth

Anunoby/ Ojeleye can both play the 4, but Ojeleye might have a lot more offensive upside, play the 3 while being 22 with a mediocre wingspan. Anunoby's 19 going on 20 with a monster Wingspan/ potential as a prototypical small ball 4

Too bad Anunoby had an ACL tear(according to several sources). Don't think he's worth our pick anymore.

1.Hartenstein
2.Patton

Zach Collins at #2 if he decides to enter the draft.

Ojeleye doesn't have a high enough ceiling for me. If we draft Swanigan he needs to be put on the James Johnson diet system. I'm more worried about him defensively than offensively.

They've got the most upside based on what we know (Injury makes Anunoby a little more unknown so I get that). We don't know much of anything about Hartenstein other than him being 7'0, just not a good enough sample size to put him over Swanigan, Leaf, etc. for me

What's really limiting about Semi?

We have enough of a sample size to see what kind of player Hartenstein could be at the next level and most of these lottery picks don't exactly have an inch thick file on them. Defensively and offensively Hartenstein has the traits you want in a power forward in today's NBA and he's also one of the youngest players in this year's draft so the upsides there. Ojeleye doesn't have the size(physical tools) that most high-caliber PFs have. Hartenstein does. Actually, I don't know whether or not he's suppose to be a PF or SF at the next level(leaning towards PF to me?). Can't wait for draft measurements.

[DayofMourning]

We have enough of a sample size to see what kind of player Hartenstein could be at the next level and most of these lottery picks don't exactly have an inch thick file on them. Defensively and offensively Hartenstein has the traits you want in a power forward in today's NBA and he's also one of the youngest players in this year's draft so the upsides there. Ojeleye doesn't have the size(physical tools) that most high-caliber PFs have. Hartenstein does. Actually, I don't know whether or not he's suppose to be a PF or SF at the next level(leaning towards PF to me?). Can't wait for draft measurements.

IH definitely looks promising in the limited film I've seen of him. I just tried checking today to see if anything else new had come out, and it hadn't. The physical ability he showcases at his size is very nice. Very fleet of foot for a big man. He also checks about every box. I would like to see more, but if we were going to take a shot in the relative dark, I'd be fine with Hartenstein.

I also like Jesusemilore, though for different reasons and on a different level. I see him as a nice, quality backup forward. A guy who can fill a couple of spots on the roster. You need those multi-positional players, especially off the bench, in order to maximize your roster.

Why not both? I think IH is a late lottery guy whose profile will start looking better as the draft gets closer and more info gets dug up on him. Semi seems to me like a 2nd rounder, which we don't have at the moment. Not that we couldn't get one as the price would be less than the extra 1st Pat mentioned.

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Me after the strengths video: Hey, maybe he can be like a poor man's stretch five Bosh
Me after Weaknesses: Chit, he ain't even PJ Brown.

[Bishop45]

Semi's wingspan's mediocre but he's got the physical tools to guard a lot of NBA 4's and 3's, and easily has some of the most potential on offense of the guys in our range. I don't hate Hartenstein but there's a lot less actual gameplay and stats to support any of his skills

Looking forward to the workouts/measurements/ etc., Giles is going to be playing for his

[Burnie Riley]

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My priorities atm:
TJ Leaf (He won't be Minnesota Kevin love but I see Cleveland Kevin potential, which is still valuable)
Hartenstein (Just based on potential, could be a beast. Perhaps draft adn stash so we reap the rewards later on)
Trade pick to Phoenix for 2021 pick back (and perchance a 2nd rounder so we can draft thornwell)(Getting the 2021 pick back frees up possibilities to trade for a borderline allstar, as we could offer 2 future firsts, which we can't do right now)
Anunoby
Swanigan
Rabb
Giles

[Burnie Riley]

The Heat are definitely scouting Thornwell as they seem to like players that have gone through Frank Martin. He looks like he has good size for a SG but in Spo's system that means he'll play SF. I dunno if he'll pan out, but I like the numbers he's putting up. he seems to have a bit of that Waiters dgaf attitude, which we learned this season is apparently a very useful skill.

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[twix2500]

From what is being projected to be available. The 3 should seriously really be evaluate the three. I would say Ivan Rabb would be the most likely player they fall in love with of the three.

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[gom]

The Heat are definitely scouting Thornwell as they seem to like players that have gone through Frank Martin. He looks like he has good size for a SG but in Spo's system that means he'll play SF. I dunno if he'll pan out, but I like the numbers he's putting up. he seems to have a bit of that Waiters dgaf attitude, which we learned this season is apparently a very useful skill.

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I like Thornwell. He's pretty strong and is big, but with a low dribble, so it's hard to take the ball from him. Right now he's a high first-round pick, but that could change.

Do you think #17 for #24 & #30 is a possibility? I'd rather have Collins or Leaf, but if they are off the board, Thornwell and Brooks or Motley and Brooks seem like a better deal than Giles or Rabb. If Utah falls in love with one of those guys, it might be good for us