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Post#121 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:16 pm

Paradise wrote:I highly doubt Acy is going anywhere. He fits the model of what this culture is supposed to be about and he shoots it better than Booker and he's a better defender.

Booker, Hamilton, Foye, Nicholson will all be the odd men out. Booker, RHJ, Kilpatrick would likely only be moved for draft compensation. Only way I see either one going is unless a team is willing to deal a higher pick if we packaged either one in a deal with a 1st.


Foye is gone. free agent. same likely for kilpatrick. those will be the 2 obvious cuts. if they can move hamilton or booker i think they would consider it. Nicholson could be cut i guess if we really need the roster spot.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#122 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:23 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:Dumb dream hypothetical, but how good would this team be...

Paul l Dinwiddie
Lin l Whitehead
LeVert l #1
Griffin l RHJ l Acy
Lopez l #1
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Indy/Bos #2
Minimum deals for wannabee ring chasers.

Dumping Booker, McDaniels, Nicholson, Hamilton, Harris and S.Kill for cap space to afford two max deals.


Paul/Griffin would be smart to get out of the West.

I think that team is probably 2nd best in the East and would have a shot at Cleveland.

Not the best supporting cast though, to make them actually consider doing it.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#123 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:31 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:Dumb dream hypothetical, but how good would this team be...

Paul l Dinwiddie
Lin l Whitehead
LeVert l #1
Griffin l RHJ l Acy
Lopez l #1
+
Room Exception
Indy/Bos #2
Minimum deals for wannabee ring chasers.

Dumping Booker, McDaniels, Nicholson, Hamilton, Harris and S.Kill for cap space to afford two max deals.


Paul/Griffin would be smart to get out of the West.

I think that team is probably 2nd best in the East and would have a shot at Cleveland.

Not the best supporting cast though, to make them actually consider doing it.



I dont know... i mean that team above is just a worse version of the current clippers... and the clippers arent all that great right now. they'd be 4th or 5th in the east record wise.

i mean, obviously you make those moves if you can. but im not sure that team gets past boston or toronto or the wiz.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#124 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:36 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:Dumb dream hypothetical, but how good would this team be...

Paul l Dinwiddie
Lin l Whitehead
LeVert l #1
Griffin l RHJ l Acy
Lopez l #1
+
Room Exception
Indy/Bos #2
Minimum deals for wannabee ring chasers.

Dumping Booker, McDaniels, Nicholson, Hamilton, Harris and S.Kill for cap space to afford two max deals.


Paul/Griffin would be smart to get out of the West.

I think that team is probably 2nd best in the East and would have a shot at Cleveland.

Not the best supporting cast though, to make them actually consider doing it.



I dont know... i mean that team above is just a worse version of the current clippers... and the clippers arent all that great right now. they'd be 4th or 5th in the east record wise.

i mean, obviously you make those moves if you can. but im not sure that team gets past boston or toronto or the wiz.


Clippers play in the West.

They just killed the Wizards last night.

They probably have a better record even though the team is worse.

Paul/Griffin are the best duo in the East outside of the Cavs easily.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#125 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:45 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Paul/Griffin would be smart to get out of the West.

I think that team is probably 2nd best in the East and would have a shot at Cleveland.

Not the best supporting cast though, to make them actually consider doing it.



I dont know... i mean that team above is just a worse version of the current clippers... and the clippers arent all that great right now. they'd be 4th or 5th in the east record wise.

i mean, obviously you make those moves if you can. but im not sure that team gets past boston or toronto or the wiz.


Clippers play in the West.

They just killed the Wizards last night.

They probably have a better record even though the team is worse.

Paul/Griffin are the best duo in the East outside of the Cavs easily.


1 win vs. the wiz is pretty anecdotal...

they are 19-10 vs. the east this year.
They are 1-1 vs. the Wiz, 1-1 vs. boston, and 0-1 vs toronto.

And thats the CURRENT clippers.... its obviously all speculation, but the nets with Paul/Griffin to me wouldnt be as good. As i think Deandre Jordan is a huge part of that team and Reddick/Mbah a Moute are better then what we have on the wing.

Being the best duo in the east is nice, but its the best team that matters and i think boston and toronto would both be better and the wiz i can see beating them in 7 games if wall can match paul.
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Post#126 » by jbeachboy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:48 pm

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Paradise wrote:I highly doubt Acy is going anywhere. He fits the model of what this culture is supposed to be about and he shoots it better than Booker and he's a better defender.

Booker, Hamilton, Foye, Nicholson will all be the odd men out. Booker, RHJ, Kilpatrick would likely only be moved for draft compensation. Only way I see either one going is unless a team is willing to deal a higher pick if we packaged either one in a deal with a 1st.


Foye is gone. free agent. same likely for kilpatrick. those will be the 2 obvious cuts. if they can move hamilton or booker i think they would consider it. Nicholson could be cut i guess if we really need the roster spot.



isnt kilpatrick under contract on a very cheap deal? do we have to buy out nicholson or stretched?
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Post#127 » by Vae Victus » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:54 pm

I see no reason for SKil to not be picked up on his minimum wage option.

Worse comes to worse, try to package him along with Hamilton somewhere for a protected bag of 3rd round pick. I'm sure some team would love to take a flier on a dirt cheap bench scorer and all it costs them is eating Hamilton 1 year 3 mil deal.

When players like Jordan Clarkson makes 12.5 mil a year, a 1 mil a year Skil aint bad at all to have on the bench just in case u need scoring and dont mind crap defense.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#128 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:59 pm

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Paradise wrote:I highly doubt Acy is going anywhere. He fits the model of what this culture is supposed to be about and he shoots it better than Booker and he's a better defender.

Booker, Hamilton, Foye, Nicholson will all be the odd men out. Booker, RHJ, Kilpatrick would likely only be moved for draft compensation. Only way I see either one going is unless a team is willing to deal a higher pick if we packaged either one in a deal with a 1st.


Foye is gone. free agent. same likely for kilpatrick. those will be the 2 obvious cuts. if they can move hamilton or booker i think they would consider it. Nicholson could be cut i guess if we really need the roster spot.



isnt kilpatrick under contract on a very cheap deal? do we have to buy out nicholson or stretched?


team option for 1.6M

nicholson would have to be trade or cut(stretched)
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Post#129 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:00 pm

Vae Victus wrote:I see no reason for SKil to not be picked up on his minimum wage option.

Worse comes to worse, try to package him along with Hamilton somewhere for a protected bag of 3rd round pick. I'm sure some team would love to take a flier on a dirt cheap bench scorer and all it costs them is eating Hamilton 1 year 3 mil deal.

When players like Jordan Clarkson makes 12.5 mil a year, a 1 mil a year Skil aint bad at all to have on the bench just in case u need scoring and dont mind crap defense.


it would be poor form to pick up skils option and trade him for peanuts. skil can earn more then his option of we just let him walk.
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Post#130 » by jbeachboy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:04 pm

skilpatrick is a bargain at 1.6 million, i would be shocked if nets didnt pick up the option considering salaries now.
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Post#131 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:12 pm

jbeachboy wrote:skilpatrick is a bargain at 1.6 million, i would be shocked if nets didnt pick up the option considering salaries now.


I think he is a lock to be let go. along with foye.

Nets will open up the 2 roster spots needed and do kilpatrick a service by allowing him to make more with another team.
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Post#132 » by jbeachboy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:23 pm

probably right, we have 3 draft picks and possible free agents.
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Post#133 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:37 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Vae Victus wrote:I see no reason for SKil to not be picked up on his minimum wage option.

Worse comes to worse, try to package him along with Hamilton somewhere for a protected bag of 3rd round pick. I'm sure some team would love to take a flier on a dirt cheap bench scorer and all it costs them is eating Hamilton 1 year 3 mil deal.

When players like Jordan Clarkson makes 12.5 mil a year, a 1 mil a year Skil aint bad at all to have on the bench just in case u need scoring and dont mind crap defense.


it would be poor form to pick up skils option and trade him for peanuts. skil can earn more then his option of we just let him walk.

His option is June 30th. I'm imagining he'll be part of a package deal on draft night, either attached to Bropez or Booker, or something with the likes of him, Hamilton, Nicholsen and cap for a horrid contract and a pick.

I'm wondering if Portland will wind up just doing something like their pick and Turner or even Crabbe for that package, probably with the later of our current 2 picks for Crabbe?

I do feel PDX would like Lopez, but I don't think our FO wants to take back all that bad salary for him while only getting the 15th and 20th picks.

But, if they got Crabbe/15th for Nicholsen/Hamilton/Skil/cap space/26th pick, I think Marks would jump on it.
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Post#134 » by Vae Victus » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:38 am

Team can always consolidate picks to trade up, eurostash, or use SKil/RHJ/IW to move up as well.

If SKil plays well the rest of the season it really doesnt make sense to let him go unless a clear upgrade or value via trade is gained.

Heck even a Crabbe + Prot 1st for SKil deal is highly feasible as it gives both teams stuff theyre missing, for example POR clears up Crabbes salary while getting a good bench gunner. BRK gets talent and more picks as the cost of cap.
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Post#135 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:41 am

Vae Victus wrote:Team can always consolidate picks to trade up, eurostash, or use SKil/RHJ/IW to move up as well.

If SKil plays well the rest of the season it really doesnt make sense to let him go unless a clear upgrade or value via trade is gained.

Heck even a Crabbe + Prot 1st for SKil deal is highly feasible as it gives both teams stuff theyre missing, for example POR clears up Crabbes salary while getting a good bench gunner. BRK gets talent and more picks as the cost of cap.

That's what I'm saying.

I can definitely see something like worse of our 2 picks, better of their 2, plus Crabbe, for Skil/Nicholsen.

Saves them a ton of money long term, they get an instant Crabbe replacement of sorts for this year and retain a second pick, only moving back 8 to 11 spots.
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Post#136 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:04 am

Crabbe can't be traded to us on draft night.
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Post#137 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:27 am

TheNetsFan wrote:Crabbe can't be traded to us on draft night.

Aaah you're right, 1 year from the time he was matched, correct?
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Post#138 » by jbeachboy » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:56 am

i dont think sean marks wants to keep this bad team together another year, hopefully he dumps and trades guys for better assets or players.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#139 » by Prokorov » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:59 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
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Vae Victus wrote:I see no reason for SKil to not be picked up on his minimum wage option.

Worse comes to worse, try to package him along with Hamilton somewhere for a protected bag of 3rd round pick. I'm sure some team would love to take a flier on a dirt cheap bench scorer and all it costs them is eating Hamilton 1 year 3 mil deal.

When players like Jordan Clarkson makes 12.5 mil a year, a 1 mil a year Skil aint bad at all to have on the bench just in case u need scoring and dont mind crap defense.


it would be poor form to pick up skils option and trade him for peanuts. skil can earn more then his option of we just let him walk.

His option is June 30th. I'm imagining he'll be part of a package deal on draft night, either attached to Bropez or Booker, or something with the likes of him, Hamilton, Nicholsen and cap for a horrid contract and a pick.

I'm wondering if Portland will wind up just doing something like their pick and Turner or even Crabbe for that package, probably with the later of our current 2 picks for Crabbe?

I do feel PDX would like Lopez, but I don't think our FO wants to take back all that bad salary for him while only getting the 15th and 20th picks.

But, if they got Crabbe/15th for Nicholsen/Hamilton/Skil/cap space/26th pick, I think Marks would jump on it.


the thing with portland is it isnt worth it to make a deal unless they shed multiple contracts. moving any one of them doesn't get them under the tax. i their pick ends up being 17th maybe they do it. but even still that deal only sheds 8 million. im not sure im dropping 9 or 10 spots ot shed 8 million.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#140 » by jbeachboy » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:00 am

kcp is not a max player, i rather keep kilpatrick than give kcp a big contract.

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