Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh

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Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Tue Apr 4, 2017 10:11 pm

The Brooklyn Nets made a series of moves over the weekend that will have no impact on the court this year, but could pay off down the line.

 

Earlier this season, Brooklyn agreed to sign Cliff Alexander and Prince Ibeh, who both played for the Nets' D-League affiliate in Long Island, to 10-day contracts. Injuries to both players scuttled those plans and the Nets moved in different directions. With the opportunity to keep their word and curry some favor with agents and players alike, Brooklyn made good on their promise in a somewhat unconventional way.

 

On Sunday, the Nets early terminated the second 10-day contract for Archie Goodwin. They then signed Alexander to a 10-day contract and immediately terminated it by waiving him. They completed the same actions with Ibeh. This guaranteed both Alexander and Ibeh the 10-day salary of $31,969 and gave both credit for a year of service in the NBA. This brings Alexander to two years and Ibeh to one. Brooklyn then moved on to sign Goodwin to a multi-year contract on Tuesday, as was their original plan all along.

 

With a series of six transactions and a total cost of just under $64,000, Brooklyn made good on three promises: 10-day deals for Alexander and Ibeh and signing Goodwin long-term.

 

This type of dealing shows that Sean Marks and the Nets ownership are committed to keeping their word and will be seen favorably by agents, and thus their players, around the league. And for Alexander and Ibeh, in addition to some extra pay, they can now sign contracts for higher veteran minimums. Alexander is now eligible for $1.47 million versus $1.31 million, and Ibeh eligible for $1.31 million vs $800 thousand. That extra potential money will go a long way for two players who spent most of the year in the D-League.

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Re: Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh 

Post#2 » by miamiheat319 » Tue Apr 4, 2017 10:24 pm

RealGM Wiretap wrote:and gave both credit for a year of service in the NBA. This brings Alexander to two years and Ibeh to one.

What? No. You don't get a "year of service" in the NBA unless you play. That's just plain wrong. Please get the facts straight.
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Re: Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh 

Post#3 » by Smitty731 » Wed Apr 5, 2017 1:04 am

miamiheat319 wrote:
RealGM Wiretap wrote:and gave both credit for a year of service in the NBA. This brings Alexander to two years and Ibeh to one.

What? No. You don't get a "year of service" in the NBA unless you play. That's just plain wrong. Please get the facts straight.


You are incorrect. You only need to be on the roster for a game. You do not need to play.

For example, Joel Embiid is credited with this being his third year of service, despite being a rookie. You maintain rookie status until you play in a game, but you get a year of service once you are on the roster for a game.
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Re: Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh 

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miamiheat319 wrote:
RealGM Wiretap wrote:and gave both credit for a year of service in the NBA. This brings Alexander to two years and Ibeh to one.

What? No. You don't get a "year of service" in the NBA unless you play. That's just plain wrong. Please get the facts straight.


You are incorrect. You only need to be on the roster for a game. You do not need to play.

For example, Joel Embiid is credited with this being his third year of service, despite being a rookie. You maintain rookie status until you play in a game, but you get a year of service once you are on the roster for a game.

There is no such thing as "year of service". This may be his third year on an NBA roster but he only has one year of service played. Where is he even credited with three "years of service" anyways? Everywhere that lists years of experience lists Embiid as a rookie. Derrick Rose with seven years, Danilo Gallinari with seven years, Wilson Chandler with eight years, Greg Oden with three years, etc, etc etc. You are incorrect. They're not two separate things. If you play in an NBA game in a season, you get a year of experience. If not, you don't. Alexander and Ibeh didn't play. They don't get credited with years of experience.
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Re: Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh 

Post#5 » by BallDontLie_ » Wed Apr 5, 2017 1:26 am

miamiheat319 wrote:What? No. You don't get a "year of service" in the NBA unless you play. That's just plain wrong. Please get the facts straight.


Pretty sure there's a difference between 'years of service' according to the CBA and what sites like ESPN or even NBA.com will list. Are you saying an actual NBA GM made these moves for no reason because he didn't know the rules? I doubt it.
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Post#6 » by dballislife » Wed Apr 5, 2017 2:21 am

good for them, what a charitable team, gave away their picks to boston and now giving away money to players who dont even play
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Re: Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh 

Post#7 » by Smitty731 » Wed Apr 5, 2017 2:51 am

miamiheat319 wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:
miamiheat319 wrote:What? No. You don't get a "year of service" in the NBA unless you play. That's just plain wrong. Please get the facts straight.


You are incorrect. You only need to be on the roster for a game. You do not need to play.

For example, Joel Embiid is credited with this being his third year of service, despite being a rookie. You maintain rookie status until you play in a game, but you get a year of service once you are on the roster for a game.

There is no such thing as "year of service". This may be his third year on an NBA roster but he only has one year of service played. Where is he even credited with three "years of service" anyways? Everywhere that lists years of experience lists Embiid as a rookie. Derrick Rose with seven years, Danilo Gallinari with seven years, Wilson Chandler with eight years, Greg Oden with three years, etc, etc etc. You are incorrect. They're not two separate things. If you play in an NBA game in a season, you get a year of experience. If not, you don't. Alexander and Ibeh didn't play. They don't get credited with years of experience.


Years of Service is a contract things towards Minimum and Maximum Salaries. All it takes to get credited with a Year of Service is to be on the roster for a game. And it is highly important because of contract reasons.

Years of Experience, which is how many years a player actually played, is something else entirely and is what you are talking about. I actually means nothing, minus towards Rookie of the Year eligibility. Beyond that, it is a relatively meaningless stat.
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Re: Nets Creatively Honored Agreements With Cliff Alexander, Prince Ibeh 

Post#8 » by Andre Roberstan » Wed Apr 5, 2017 4:02 am

miamiheat319 wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:
miamiheat319 wrote:What? No. You don't get a "year of service" in the NBA unless you play. That's just plain wrong. Please get the facts straight.


You are incorrect. You only need to be on the roster for a game. You do not need to play.

For example, Joel Embiid is credited with this being his third year of service, despite being a rookie. You maintain rookie status until you play in a game, but you get a year of service once you are on the roster for a game.

There is no such thing as "year of service". This may be his third year on an NBA roster but he only has one year of service played. Where is he even credited with three "years of service" anyways? Everywhere that lists years of experience lists Embiid as a rookie. Derrick Rose with seven years, Danilo Gallinari with seven years, Wilson Chandler with eight years, Greg Oden with three years, etc, etc etc. You are incorrect. They're not two separate things. If you play in an NBA game in a season, you get a year of experience. If not, you don't. Alexander and Ibeh didn't play. They don't get credited with years of experience.


CBAFAQ section 16 footnote 1. Check your facts. It's a slightly different thing.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q16
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