2016-17 Rookie Watch thread

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Who will make the All Rookie 1st Team?

Brogdon
100
19%
Brown
25
5%
Chriss
43
8%
Embiid
94
18%
Ferrell
5
1%
WILLY Hernangomez
36
7%
Hield
64
12%
Ingram
14
3%
Murray
39
7%
Saric
106
20%
 
Total votes: 526

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1381 » by Amsterdam » Sun Apr 9, 2017 10:44 pm

magnumt wrote:

In basically 3 quarters WillyG put up:

24 Points, 10 Rebounds, and 5 Assists! :o :clap:

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Ron Baker with a near TRIPLE DOUBLE!



11 Points, 8 Rebounds, and 8 Assists! :o :clap:

--Mags :beer:


Was streaming the game from Toronto and the broadcasters love Baker. They said he plays gritty and predict for him a nice raise.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1382 » by magnumt » Sun Apr 9, 2017 11:48 pm

Amsterdam wrote:
magnumt wrote:

In basically 3 quarters WillyG put up:

24 Points, 10 Rebounds, and 5 Assists! :o :clap:

===============================

Ron Baker with a near TRIPLE DOUBLE!



11 Points, 8 Rebounds, and 8 Assists! :o :clap:

--Mags :beer:


Was streaming the game from Toronto and the broadcasters love Baker. They said he plays gritty and predict for him a nice raise. Jeff VanGundy Loves him!


Indeed! Most of us do too! :D He's a TENACIOUS hustle player, and you can see he doesn't back down from opposing PGs or get "awe struck."

He took it to Lowery and Conley in both games, even tho he's just an Undrafted Rookie. His outside shot is still streaky, but his dribble penetration and passing is ON POINT! He's a Coaches dreaaaaaaaam with his flawless fundamentals.

I think that's why the Knicks management ultimately signed him first over Randle (even if Randle got hurt).

His Defense would look NICE alongside DSJ or Monk! :D

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1383 » by islanders11040 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:03 am

Willy's offensive game can get to the next level if he develops a reliable jump shot.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1384 » by Bakuto » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:21 am

Henry Ellenson has actually gotten significant minutes in the last two games and has been fun to watch. Nice numbers and may create a silver lining for Pistons fans despite this terrible season.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1385 » by Amsterdam » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:41 am

islanders11040 wrote:Willy's offensive game can get to the next level if he develops a reliable jump shot.



Dude he's improved to the 3point line. What else?
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1386 » by Amsterdam » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:05 am

magnumt wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
magnumt wrote:

In basically 3 quarters WillyG put up:

24 Points, 10 Rebounds, and 5 Assists! :o :clap:

===============================

Ron Baker with a near TRIPLE DOUBLE!



11 Points, 8 Rebounds, and 8 Assists! :o :clap:

--Mags :beer:


Was streaming the game from Toronto and the broadcasters love Baker. They said he plays gritty and predict for him a nice raise. Jeff VanGundy Loves him!


Indeed! Most of us do too! :D He's a TENACIOUS hustle player, and you can see he doesn't back down from opposing PGs or get "awe struck."

He took it to Lowery and Conley in both games, even tho he's just an Undrafted Rookie. His outside shot is still streaky, but his dribble penetration and passing is ON POINT! He's a Coaches dreaaaaaaaam with his flawless fundamentals.

I think that's why the Knicks management ultimately signed him first over Randle (even if Randle got hurt).

His Defense would look NICE alongside DSJ or Monk! :D

--Mags :beer:


First guard off the bench to spell the rook would be perfect. Young ass talented team.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1387 » by Amsterdam » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:20 am

magnumt wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
magnumt wrote:

In basically 3 quarters WillyG put up:

24 Points, 10 Rebounds, and 5 Assists! :o :clap:

===============================

Ron Baker with a near TRIPLE DOUBLE!



11 Points, 8 Rebounds, and 8 Assists! :o :clap:

--Mags :beer:


Was streaming the game from Toronto and the broadcasters love Baker. They said he plays gritty and predict for him a nice raise. Jeff VanGundy Loves him!


Indeed! Most of us do too! :D He's a TENACIOUS hustle player, and you can see he doesn't back down from opposing PGs or get "awe struck."

He took it to Lowery and Conley in both games, even tho he's just an Undrafted Rookie. His outside shot is still streaky, but his dribble penetration and passing is ON POINT! He's a Coaches dreaaaaaaaam with his flawless fundamentals.

I think that's why the Knicks management ultimately signed him first over Randle (even if Randle got hurt).

His Defense would look NICE alongside DSJ or Monk! :D

--Mags :beer:


Dont know where you stand on Melo but this team and even Melo has been playing different since Rose went out and Baker has started.

We've been extremely competitive versus some playoff teams without KP or even Melo for some.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1388 » by magnumt » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:30 am

Amsterdam wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
Was streaming the game from Toronto and the broadcasters love Baker. They said he plays gritty and predict for him a nice raise. Jeff VanGundy Loves him!


Indeed! Most of us do too! :D He's a TENACIOUS hustle player, and you can see he doesn't back down from opposing PGs or get "awe struck."

He took it to Lowery and Conley in both games, even tho he's just an Undrafted Rookie. His outside shot is still streaky, but his dribble penetration and passing is ON POINT! He's a Coaches dreaaaaaaaam with his flawless fundamentals.

I think that's why the Knicks management ultimately signed him first over Randle (even if Randle got hurt).

His Defense would look NICE alongside DSJ or Monk! :D

--Mags :beer:


Dont know where you stand on Melo but this team and even Melo has been playing different since Rose went out and Baker has started.

We've been extremely competitive versus some playoff teams without KP or even Melo for some.


It's because Baker actually passes and runs an offense. Jennings used to do the same as well.

But with Rose, he just puts his head down and goes onto the paint, rarely kicking out. I alluded to this in another post, but at times Melo would be a better PG on the floor than Rose.

Also, if someone like KP was leading the scorers, Rose would seemingly get jealous and try and up his stat numbers with repeated drives and rare passes. Many times ruining the flow of the team's offense.

You don't really get that with Baker. Not to mention his superior Defense compared to Rose.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1389 » by CoreyGallagher » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:30 am

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islanders11040 wrote:Willy's offensive game can get to the next level if he develops a reliable jump shot.



Dude he's improved to the 3point line. What else?

Perhaps behind it. :P

Realistically, 37.4% on jump shots certainly isn't bad for a rookie, but more consistency couldn't hurt especially since he's not taking many 3's.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1390 » by magnumt » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:40 am

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islanders11040 wrote:Willy's offensive game can get to the next level if he develops a reliable jump shot.


Dude he's improved to the 3point line. What else?

Perhaps behind it. :P

Realistically, 37.4% on jump shots certainly isn't bad for a rookie, but more consistency couldn't hurt.


It's certainly doable. But I doubt the Knicks emphasize it right now given WillyG's aforementioned great hands/footwork in the paint, and them already having Porzingis (and possibly Melo) to cover the midrange and Perimeter.

NY likely wants WillyG & KP as their Frontcourt of the future, and having WillyG get comfortable with the Perimeter will eventually get him into the way of KP's (and Melo's) spaces on the floor.

ESPECIALLY with the Triangle being all about Spacing and having a RELIABLE low post option needed (like what WillyG currently is). :D

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1391 » by Amsterdam » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:40 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
islanders11040 wrote:Willy's offensive game can get to the next level if he develops a reliable jump shot.



Dude he's improved to the 3point line. What else?

Perhaps behind it. :P

Realistically, 37.4% on jump shots certainly isn't bad for a rookie, but more consistency couldn't hurt especially since he's not taking many 3's.


It appears that Coach Hornacek has seen enough of his 3s in practice to have recently given him the green light to move out to the 3pt line.
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Post#1392 » by CoreyGallagher » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:42 am

Amsterdam wrote:It appears that Coach Hornacek has seen enough of his 3s in practice to have recently given him the green light to move out to the 3pt line.
This Kid is looking more and more like Marc Gasol every game.

He'll have to show that more in games then because the 3 point shot he made today was his first in 3 months. He does just about everything else well, that's why I agree that deepening his range could do wonders for him.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1393 » by Amsterdam » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:54 am

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Amsterdam wrote:It appears that Coach Hornacek has seen enough of his 3s in practice to have recently given him the green light to move out to the 3pt line.
This Kid is looking more and more like Marc Gasol every game.

He'll have to show that more in games then because the 3 point shot he made today was his first in 3 months. He does just about everything else well, that's why I agree that by deepening his range will do wonders for him.


Didn't know that. But I absolutely see your point range will take his game vertically. In quick time he can have one of the elite fundamentally sound games in the NBA.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1394 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:36 am

Nice game from Skal tonight
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1395 » by gavran » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:22 am

magnumt wrote:

In basically 3 quarters WillyG put up:

24 Points, 10 Rebounds, and 5 Assists! :o :clap:

===============================

Ron Baker with a near TRIPLE DOUBLE!



11 Points, 8 Rebounds, and 8 Assists! :o :clap:

--Mags :beer:


2.5 of these were NBA assists though, still.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1396 » by PerkinsFor3 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:37 am

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PerkinsFor3 wrote:I still wouldnt take guys like Skal over Prince.


That's crazy talk


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Why? Skal has shown he can score. Other than that he's too weak to defend power forwards. In this current day NBA game, that's not a good look. He can't defend SF's either. Son that's a steeeep learning curve.

Prince has shown he can score in a variety of ways and is already a pretty good defender. Great size and build for current day game too.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1397 » by NTB » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:54 pm

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1398 » by Jkam31 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:01 pm

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PerkinsFor3 wrote:I still wouldnt take guys like Skal over Prince.


That's crazy talk


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Why? Skal has shown he can score. Other than that he's too weak to defend power forwards. In this current day NBA game, that's not a good look. He can't defend SF's either. Son that's a steeeep learning curve.

Prince has shown he can score in a variety of ways and is already a pretty good defender. Great size and build for current day game too.


What are you talking about have you seen him play? He's shown he can score and will be good at it he's jumper is smooth and he has good post moves and footwork.


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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1399 » by PerkinsFor3 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:09 pm

Jkam31 wrote:
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Jkam31 wrote:
That's crazy talk


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Why? Skal has shown he can score. Other than that he's too weak to defend power forwards. In this current day NBA game, that's not a good look. He can't defend SF's either. Son that's a steeeep learning curve.

Prince has shown he can score in a variety of ways and is already a pretty good defender. Great size and build for current day game too.


What are you talking about have you seen him play? He's shown he can score and will be good at it he's jumper is smooth and he has good post moves and footwork.


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Did you even read what I posted?
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1400 » by sogood » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:15 pm

LOL Espn. Would Dunn even go top 10 now?

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