Bulls biggest threat to Cavs in East

Post #101 » by **CBS7** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:23 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:C'mon, no one on that team still around from when they won a chapionship last in 1998...lol

He means championship experience with Rondo and Wade.

Meliorus · Post #102 » by **Meliorus** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:30 pm

People are forgetting that Rondo is playing well because..look at the guy whose guarding him. Wall is not going to let him dance around the court doing whatever he wants to.

NZB2323 · Post #103 » by **NZB2323** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:34 pm

Aurelius wrote:ECF are exclusively on TNT. If the Bulls make it there then the Cavs are finished.

The Bulls are only undefeated in TNT games in Chicago.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #104 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:39 pm

smokeylarue wrote:Can't believe it hasn't been said yet. Bulls swept the Cavs this season 4-0. They absolutely are a threat, but I doubt the Bulls get past Washington.

You realize that's typical right? LeBron always does poor against Chicago in the regular season then takes their soul from them in the playoffs...

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #105 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:40 pm

I'd say Wizards would be most concerning, and Milwaukee and Chicago are both right there kinda 2a 2b.

Post #106 » by **Ice Man** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:42 pm

Meliorus wrote:People are forgetting that Rondo is playing well because..look at the guy whose guarding him. Wall is not going to let him dance around the court doing whatever he wants to.

Wall was a negative defender on real plus/minus this year. I don't know if that is just one of those things -- that measure isn't always on track -- or he took plays off. But either way, yeah, he has the physical tools to cramp Rondo's style.

The Explorer · Post #107 » by **The Explorer** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:43 pm

Bulls would not have a good chance against the Wizards next round. Bulls would actually match up better against Cleveland than they do against WSH.

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #108 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:53 pm

dlts20 wrote::x
ReturnofMVP3 wrote:
dlts20 wrote:Wade was near his prime in Miami, he couldn't guard Beal.

What.

What is so hard to understand. I'm saying that even when Wade was still close to his prime in Miami and Beal was younger, he always gave Wade fits. Wade can't chase him around screens and now Beal is even a great iso player with handles. Rondo and Wade won't be able to stop them. Bulls have a scrappy D but no rim protection which is really what gives the Wiz problems

I was curious, because I never remembered anything about Beal against prime Wade, so I looked it up.

Beal was a rookie in 12-13, when Wade was already well past his prime. In 12-13 and 13-14, there were no monster Bradley Beal games to take note of. In 12-13, he had 10 points in a 4 point Wizards win, and shot poorly in two blowout losses (did not play in the final matchup).

In 13-14, he again shot poorly in 2 blowout losses, had a decent 7 for 13, 19 point performance in a blowout win (Wizards were up 43-18 after first quarter), and had a 5 for 9, 15 point performance in a blowout win in game #81 with Miami resting players (Wade played 18 minutes).

I'm not even going to entertain the next 2 years, because 14-15 and 15-16 are nowhere near prime Wade. So where is this story of Beal lighting up near prime Wade coming from?

Axxo · Post #109 » by **Axxo** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:01 pm

GimmeDat wrote:
dlts20 wrote:Wizards are by far the worst match up in the East for both the Cavs and Bulls

This. My money's on the Wizards. So underrated.

Add me to this list, I can't cosign on the Bulls unless they beat a healthy Wiz's team in a series.

Meliorus · Post #110 » by **Meliorus** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:04 pm

Ice Man wrote:
Meliorus wrote:People are forgetting that Rondo is playing well because..look at the guy whose guarding him. Wall is not going to let him dance around the court doing whatever he wants to.

Wall was a negative defender on real plus/minus this year. I don't know if that is just one of those things -- that measure isn't always on track -- or he took plays off. But either way, yeah, he has the physical tools to cramp Rondo's style.

Barely being negative is much better than being extremely negative.

mademan · Post #111 » by **mademan** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:23 pm

Ice Man wrote:
Meliorus wrote:People are forgetting that Rondo is playing well because..look at the guy whose guarding him. Wall is not going to let him dance around the court doing whatever he wants to.

Wall was a negative defender on real plus/minus this year. I don't know if that is just one of those things -- that measure isn't always on track -- or he took plays off. But either way, yeah, he has the physical tools to cramp Rondo's style.

The problem is IT isnt big enough to play off of Rondo and still have a defensive effect. With Rondo on the court, Wall is big/strong/long enough to cause havoc while allowing RR to shoot to his hearts content.

RakimAbdulJabar · Post #112 » by **RakimAbdulJabar** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:39 pm

Bulls need to focus on this series not the Cavs or Wizards (neither of whom have advanced) 2 games doesn't make a series

Coxy · Post #113 » by **Coxy** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:31 pm

PlayerUp wrote:
Coxy wrote:None of them are coming close. Sweep to the finals.

Then be swept themselves.

It's an absolute possibility.

DaKnicksAreBack · Post #114 » by **DaKnicksAreBack** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:45 pm

Lol at this thread.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #115 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:50 pm

Coxy wrote:
PlayerUp wrote:
Coxy wrote:None of them are coming close. Sweep to the finals.

Then be swept themselves.

It's an absolute possibility.

Or crushing GS's hopes and dreams again, that could be another possibility

Ctownbulls · Post #116 » by **Ctownbulls** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:50 pm

dlts20 wrote:Wizards are by far the worst match up in the East for both the Cavs and Bulls

Milwaukee is probably 2nd. Bulls are getting over rated for having two great games against a flawed team.

Coxy · Post #117 » by **Coxy** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:55 pm

OsuCavsfan103 wrote:
Coxy wrote:
PlayerUp wrote:
Then be swept themselves.

It's an absolute possibility.

Or crushing GS's hopes and dreams again, that could be another possibility

It sure is. But I wasn't just talking about the Cavs facing Golden State in the finals.

rich316 · Post #118 » by **rich316** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:56 pm

No way Bulls can score enough to threaten the Cavs. Wiz can at least win shootouts.

nbafan38 · Post #119 » by **nbafan38** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:15 pm

I don't think they get by the wizards.

Guy · Post #120 » by **Guy** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:29 pm

Birdie wrote:And people bringing up this 4-0 during the regular season against us as it's supposed to mean something?

I believe the 60 win Bulls back in 2010 were 3-0 against the Heatles during the regular season and then got bounced by the Heat in the ECF 4-1. Also, 60 win ATL in 2014 was 3-1 against CLE and they got bounced in ECF 4-0. So are we really using regular season maths as some kind of barometer?

Regular season success means nothing when it comes to the playoffs by that metric.

Are we really saying the Paul Zipsers and Bobby Portis' are gonna tilt a series so far in CHI favor's, that they're a juggernaut now? Please. They shot 34% from 3 in the regular season, through 2 games, they're at 35.3% and 44% from 2 during RS and in the playoffs, are 46%, so, they're overperfoming ..

But I still got faith for my BOS brethren, I still think this series is going 7 but could end in 5 if JimmyB goes bezerk in CHI smellin blood in the water.

So the Bulls were trash in the regular season and know they're outclassing the #1 seed in the playoffs where it matters...

Dude you literally contradict yourself every other paragraph, wtf are you talking about?