Draft Thread Fury's #9 FTW! - Picking 7th Currently (Also, no to Isaac.)

N Y K · Post #1861 » by **N Y K** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:00 am

FemaleDogPlease wrote:Shumpert was drafted as a big PG and sucked as a PG.

Watch on YouTube

right after this, watched his vice interview crying about knicks fans.

knickstape21 · Post #1862 » by **knickstape21** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:12 am

Watching the Bucks is another reason why I'm all in on drafting Ntilikina. Their length is ridiculous! Smothering the Craptors and their non effective ISO ball all game. Really fun to watch.

NY2TheBay · Post #1863 » by **NY2TheBay** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:32 am

This draft has potential to be unreal.

If fox gets a consistent jump shot and 3, his ceiling is very high, could be the highest. If DSjr shows he can lock in defensively consistently and remains healthy he could be a top 10 player in the league. Tatum has a chance to be special, he might even be a safer pick than Jackson. I would take Josh without hesitation, though. Crazy deep draft.

You got people on here saying fultz basically has chance to be a perennial First Team ALL NBA player. Then you got Lonzo who could have a Kidd like impact in the league and the mystery man stretch armstrong, "the antetoukompo of pg's", Ntilikina. Not to mention Malik Monk who is the microwave, heat up with the quickness, splash threes with no conscious. Don't know what he could be but a floor of Jamal Crawford looks like a safe bet and that man has had a very nice career.

For the guard lovers this draft could go down in history. There is a new influx of serious guard talent about to hit the league.

camillepd · Post #1864 » by **camillepd** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:39 am

How about trading down for OG Onunoby?

Oscirus · Post #1865 » by **Oscirus** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:43 am

camillepd wrote:How about trading down for OG Onunoby?

Oscirus · Post #1866 » by **Oscirus** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:47 am

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-draft-mavericks-grab-arizonas-lauri-markkanen-to-learn-under-dirk-nowitzki/

CBS has Dennis going 4th now

. No idea why they have Tatum going to the wolve a if Wiggins doesn't exsist.

NY2TheBay · Post #1867 » by **NY2TheBay** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:10 am

Oscirus wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-draft-mavericks-grab-arizonas-lauri-markkanen-to-learn-under-dirk-nowitzki/

CBS has Dennis going 4th now . No idea why they have Tatum going to the wolve a if Wiggins doesn't exsist.

He is BPA after the top 3, shouldnt be surprised.

Knickerbock · Post #1868 » by **Knickerbock** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:14 am

knickstape21 wrote:Watching the Bucks is another reason why I'm all in on drafting Ntilikina. Their length is ridiculous! Smothering the Craptors and their non effective ISO ball all game. Really fun to watch.

Kris Middleton is a really underrated defender...Im just saying.. . Derozan going 0-8 in 30 plus minutes...

WargamesX · Post #1869 » by **WargamesX** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:53 am

Knickerbock wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:Watching the Bucks is another reason why I'm all in on drafting Ntilikina. Their length is ridiculous! Smothering the Craptors and their non effective ISO ball all game. Really fun to watch.

Kris Middleton is a really underrated defender...Im just saying.. . Derozan going 0-8 in 30 plus minutes...

That's funny because I look at Frank as a Kris Middleton type player, but an even better defender.

whocares1 · Post #1870 » by **whocares1** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:04 am

Watch on YouTube

If anybody is interested in Frank's weaknesses. Just a 4 minute vid.

Post #1871 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:56 am

whocares1 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

If anybody is interested in Frank's weaknesses. Just a 4 minute vid.

The weakness are pretty scary for a pg..lotta work needed for him to be an nba pg

sims · Post #1872 » by **sims** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:20 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:The weakness are pretty scary for a pg..lotta work needed for him to be an nba pg

he seems a long, long way off to me. that's not to say he won't be good, just nowhere near ready to compete with the elite PGs out there. like 2 years before it's even a serious consideration. i could see him slipping quite a bit if we pass - mid 1st round seems more appropriate for his current value.

i also think our reported interest in him is a pretty major smokescreen, but that's another story entirely..

Post #1873 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:39 am

sims wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The weakness are pretty scary for a pg..lotta work needed for him to be an nba pg

he seems a long, long way off to me. that's not to say he won't be good, just nowhere near ready to compete with the elite PGs out there. like 2 years before it's even a serious consideration. i could see him slipping quite a bit if we pass - mid 1st round seems more appropriate for his current value.

i also think our reported interest in him is a pretty major smokescreen, but that's another story entirely..

Yeah, i would agree. He can definitely get better, and there's upside if he does, but it's not always a given.

Derento · Post #1874 » by **Derento** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:01 pm

Watch on YouTube

Fox glides into the paint.
Floater is nice too.
Can be a very valuable offensive player even without a 3 ball.
I'm buying stock into him.
3rd guard on my big board.

thebuzzardman · Post #1875 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:14 pm

sims wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The weakness are pretty scary for a pg..lotta work needed for him to be an nba pg

he seems a long, long way off to me. that's not to say he won't be good, just nowhere near ready to compete with the elite PGs out there. like 2 years before it's even a serious consideration. i could see him slipping quite a bit if we pass - mid 1st round seems more appropriate for his current value.

i also think our reported interest in him is a pretty major smokescreen, but that's another story entirely..

He gets compared to Holiday and he needed at least his whole first year to get it together, if, frankly, also most of his 2nd, though his stats went up. I just recall Holiday looking good at times first 2 years, but also raw

levendis · Post #1876 » by **levendis** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:15 pm

maybe it's just me but not really impressed with this draft outside the top 10. Feel like there's a huge drop off after it. Might be because the top 10 is so talented though. But I remember thinking the 2014 and 2015 drafts were a lot more deeper.

Post #1877 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:16 pm

1. Fultz
2. Jackson
3. Ball
4. Fox
5. DSJ

Not sure what I would do after that yet

Frank/Monk/Tatum/Issac/Lauri?

Post #1878 » by **King of Canada** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:17 pm

levendis wrote:maybe it's just me but not really impressed with this draft outside the top 10. Feel like there's a huge drop off after it. Might be because the top 10 is so talented though. But I remember thinking the 2014 and 2015 drafts were a lot more deeper.

Dropping off after 10 is pretty sweet. Most drafts drop off after the top 2 pretty hardcore. This year there are a dozen guys that could really make an impact.

EchelonNYK · Post #1879 » by **EchelonNYK** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:19 pm

Derento wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Fox glides into the paint.
Floater is nice too.
Can be a very valuable offensive player even without a 3 ball.
I'm buying stock into him.
3rd guard on my big board.

Watch on YouTube

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thebuzzardman · Post #1880 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:19 pm

Derento wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Fox glides into the paint.
Floater is nice too.
Can be a very valuable offensive player even without a 3 ball.
I'm buying stock into him.
3rd guard on my big board.

In terms of draft, I'm starting to get this Westbrook vibe about Fox. Now, totally different players, not what I mean. Just that everyone had Beasley and OJ Mayo over him, or at least a lot of draft mocks, and that is where they went. Also, I sort of recall an OJ Mayo >> Westbrook raging on here. Now, it's not like Westbrook wasn't seen as good, just, and I'm trying to remember, but some just though he wasn't a PG enough, while others saw the dominant speed and athleticism and thought it would translate.

I'm just getting a whiff of how quick and how well Fox can leap for a PG as being underestimated in general and that with the greater spacing in the pro game, he'll really do well right away in spite of not having a jumper and I just think that he'll add that jumper. Oh, and he seems to have a great competitive streak.

I'll be thrilled if he falls to the Knicks but I doubt it. Seriously doubt it.