Deeeez Knicks wrote:Orlando is another wild card. They could probably use everything. Hopefully they mess up there pick and draft whoever is gonna bust
I think they're gunning for Tatum or Issac. They want a 3 that can play four.
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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Orlando is another wild card. They could probably use everything. Hopefully they mess up there pick and draft whoever is gonna bust
shtolky wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:1. Fultz
2. Jackson
3. Ball
4. Fox
5. DSJ
Not sure what I would do after that yet
Frank/Monk/Tatum/Issac/Lauri?
I think that will be the order
Those seem to be the 5 best with Tatum probably in there before fox
I think we will be looking at monk or frank at 7
If you're talking about the current lottery order, I can't see why Philly takes Fox. He might be the 4th most talented player, but given how they roster is set, I think the last thing they need is a PG whose weakness is shooting given they have been talking up Simmons as their point. That team needs a shooter (Monk) and and maybe a defensive SF (Isaac) if they don't think Covington is the answer.
dakomish23 wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:nahOrangeAndFlu wrote:Can we for one second entertain the possibility of a markannen KP Melo front line ?
Offensively it would be insane he's got the foot speed to become competent defensively and we can only expect KP to fill out more
Willy I don't buy as a full time starter and I'm not super optimistic on the upside because of the lack of athleticism
I would still rather a guard but I'm prepped to be disappointed
With Willy around and the smaller Pfs who are doing so well in the league this wouldn't make sense
Monk would be better if we're looking at spacing and scoring
If we fall back and he drops, I can see us taking Isaac to play the 4 and KP at the 5. Make WHG the 6th man who gets 28-30 mpg and can play next to either.
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Orlando is another wild card. They could probably use everything. Hopefully they mess up there pick and draft whoever is gonna bust
thebuzzardman wrote:shtolky wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:
With Smith Jr and Fox potentially gone, I'm not really sold on Frankie N as that "awesome PG". It's no sure thing. It's more like "very questionable, might be possible awesome PG and just as likely some guy who's a cadillac Mardy Collins"
Well I said could be. Anyone who claims they know that Frank is going to suck, or Fox and Smith will be awesome, is just speculating. I was simply making a comparison between the 2009 draft with Hill being a clear consolation prize (I remember being very upset Curry was taken before us and hating the Hill pick) and this upcoming draft with so many potential guys. I am not even saying Fox or Smith will be awesome, but I think it's easy to see that Frank is a much better prospect than Hill was. The drop from Curry to Hill was enormous. I am not sure there is much of a drop if any from Fox/Smith to Frank. Time will tell.
Well, that much is true. The Knicks blew a few picks on guys after Derozan, but the talent did drop off. Then again, Flynn and Thabeet were massive reaches. But agree the talent doesn't drop off in the same way.
But IF Frank N doesn't pan out, I think it would be fair to look back and say the PG talent dropped after Fox/Smith Jr.
Knicks aren't in control enough of their destiny once again. They have to hope at least 2 SF types go in the top rounds. Jackson is a sure thing, then the Knicks are left wishing, as someone else posted, that Tatum or Issac go top 6 (one of them)
NoLayupRule wrote:shtolky wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:I think that will be the order
Those seem to be the 5 best with Tatum probably in there before fox
I think we will be looking at monk or frank at 7
If you're talking about the current lottery order, I can't see why Philly takes Fox. He might be the 4th most talented player, but given how they roster is set, I think the last thing they need is a PG whose weakness is shooting given they have been talking up Simmons as their point. That team needs a shooter (Monk) and and maybe a defensive SF (Isaac) if they don't think Covington is the answer.
I'm basically saying the top 6 talents in the draft are the 5 listed and Tatum
so when it gets to us I expect it will be Monk or Frank were picking between
however Phili would be smart to take Monk or Tatum
perhaps Fox will fall to us if were lucky
thebuzzardman wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Orlando is another wild card. They could probably use everything. Hopefully they mess up there pick and draft whoever is gonna bust
Orlando would seem to need a PF most, followed by a SG, as I think Fournier probably really a 3. Fournier I think gives them an option to go 2 or 3, but it seems a 4 is the biggest need.
Then again, like the Knicks, they suck, so sort of need a bit of everything
NoLayupRule wrote:dakomish23 wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:nah
With Willy around and the smaller Pfs who are doing so well in the league this wouldn't make sense
Monk would be better if we're looking at spacing and scoring
If we fall back and he drops, I can see us taking Isaac to play the 4 and KP at the 5. Make WHG the 6th man who gets 28-30 mpg and can play next to either.
i see zero chance of that
hes not the player we want
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
HoneyNutMelos wrote:Bleacher Report Mock Draft Top 10, updated about 3 hours ago
1 Boston Celtics - Markelle Fultz
2 Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson
3 Los Ang Lakers - Lonzo Ball
4 Philly 76ers - Malik Monk
5 Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum
6 Minn Twolves - Jonathan Isaac
7 New York Knicks - De'Aaron Fox
8 Dallas Mavericks - Lauri Markkanen
9 Sactown Kings - Frank Ntilikina
10 Sactown Kings - Zach Collins
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Orlando is another wild card. They could probably use everything. Hopefully they mess up there pick and draft whoever is gonna bust
thebuzzardman wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Orlando is another wild card. They could probably use everything. Hopefully they mess up there pick and draft whoever is gonna bust
Orlando would seem to need a PF most, followed by a SG, as I think Fournier probably really a 3. Fournier I think gives them an option to go 2 or 3, but it seems a 4 is the biggest need.
Then again, like the Knicks, they suck, so sort of need a bit of everything
NY2TheBay wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Orlando is another wild card. They could probably use everything. Hopefully they mess up there pick and draft whoever is gonna bust
Orlando would seem to need a PF most, followed by a SG, as I think Fournier probably really a 3. Fournier I think gives them an option to go 2 or 3, but it seems a 4 is the biggest need.
Then again, like the Knicks, they suck, so sort of need a bit of everything
Gordon is being moved to the 4 full time next season from what Ive heard. They traded for Terrance Ross to that could mean Fournier moves to the 3 and they draft a PG. Or Ross is the sixth man and they start Fournier at the 2 and draft Tatum to play the small forward.
SmoothLefty21 wrote:HoneyNutMelos wrote:Bleacher Report Mock Draft Top 10, updated about 3 hours ago
1 Boston Celtics - Markelle Fultz
2 Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson
3 Los Ang Lakers - Lonzo Ball
4 Philly 76ers - Malik Monk
5 Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum
6 Minn Twolves - Jonathan Isaac
7 New York Knicks - De'Aaron Fox
8 Dallas Mavericks - Lauri Markkanen
9 Sactown Kings - Frank Ntilikina
10 Sactown Kings - Zach Collins
Top 5 make sense if the ping pong balls stay true. Still nervous about MIN at #6.
shtolky wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:shtolky wrote:
If you're talking about the current lottery order, I can't see why Philly takes Fox. He might be the 4th most talented player, but given how they roster is set, I think the last thing they need is a PG whose weakness is shooting given they have been talking up Simmons as their point. That team needs a shooter (Monk) and and maybe a defensive SF (Isaac) if they don't think Covington is the answer.
I'm basically saying the top 6 talents in the draft are the 5 listed and Tatum
so when it gets to us I expect it will be Monk or Frank were picking between
however Phili would be smart to take Monk or Tatum
perhaps Fox will fall to us if were lucky
Gotcha. Yes I think those are the top 6 talents, but fortunately for us, not all of the top 6 fit on those top 6 teams. Orlando and Minny are the wildcards to me, as I keep saying, I cannot see Philly taking a point when they have Simmons on their roster, a unique PG weapon that they have to take advantage of.
nodakomish23 wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:dakomish23 wrote:
If we fall back and he drops, I can see us taking Isaac to play the 4 and KP at the 5. Make WHG the 6th man who gets 28-30 mpg and can play next to either.
i see zero chance of that
hes not the player we want
How do you know that? You know someone who works for the FO?