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Post#1121 » by LongLiveHinkie » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:20 am

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:I don't think accomplishments have anything to go with who is best. Otherwise, Bull Russell would be the best NBA player ever. To me it's 100% eye test, nothing else. MJ amazed me most, therefore he's my best. Until someone comes along who amazes me more, he remains best. Don't care if Lebron wins 8 titles and don't care if Steph Curry wins 15.

One can only "catch" someone if you count accomplishments. I don't. I think most people feel this way, they just don't realize it. People consider MJ the best because he was freaking amazing, the 6 titles have little to do with it, although they are used for argumentative purposes.


Accomplishments matter for the top players, but it isn't the only factor. Russell played with so many other hall of famers back when there were so few teams that it is really hard to compare.

The Celtics were like the Alabama college football team playing in the big east. They would have won at least some of those titles without Russell.

The point I'm really making is that Lebron is the best player in this era by a long shot, and when he is all said and done he may have a good case for the best career ever.

Part of the eye test is seeing a player accomplish ridiculously difficult things. What he did today was Jordan'esque, and getting to perhaps his seventh straight finals should make people really stop and think for a second.

Curry, Durant, Westbrook, and Harden are all great basketball players, but Lebron is just on another level.




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Post#1122 » by kingofthecourt67 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:36 am

Who would have thought Canaan would be more valuable to the Bulls than MCW a couple of years ago :lol:. MCW looks like he is regressing by the day.
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Post#1123 » by bball4life » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:38 am

If you took the best characteristics of Canaan, mcw and Jerian grant and made a single PG, it's still a D league player.


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Post#1124 » by 76ciology » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:45 am

bball4life wrote:If you took the best characteristics of Canaan, mcw and Jerian grant and made a single PG, it's still a D league player.


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Post#1125 » by 76ciology » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:47 am

kingofthecourt67 wrote:Who would have thought Canaan would be more valuable to the Bulls than MCW a couple of years ago :lol:. MCW looks like he is regressing by the day.


Relative. The need for a PG who can shoot increases by the day.
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Post#1126 » by 76ciology » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:50 am

Mbah would've been great for us 1-2 seasons from now. Wrong timing.
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Post#1127 » by 76ciology » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:54 am

To the guys who doesn't like how today's 3pt contest game, do you enjoy this clipps-jazz series? Just asking
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Post#1128 » by XtremeDunkz » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:07 am

76ciology wrote:To the guys who doesn't like how today's 3pt contest game, do you enjoy this clipps-jazz series? Just asking


Love it. Also love Spurs Grizz.
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Post#1129 » by XtremeDunkz » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:44 am

Joe Johnson still got it. So clutch.
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Post#1130 » by kingofthecourt67 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:57 am

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76ciology wrote:To the guys who doesn't like how today's 3pt contest game, do you enjoy this clipps-jazz series? Just asking


Love it. Also love Spurs Grizz.


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Post#1131 » by 76ciology » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:07 am

kingofthecourt67 wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:
76ciology wrote:To the guys who doesn't like how today's 3pt contest game, do you enjoy this clipps-jazz series? Just asking


Love it. Also love Spurs Grizz.


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Oh.. thats interesting.

Need to have both styles collide next round.
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Post#1132 » by dkj5061 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:16 am

Joe Ingles is a restricted free agent this offseason. Not only is he a sharpshooter we desperately need, but he his savvy with the ball in his hands, a solid team defender, and he has the Australian connection with Simmons. How much would you be willing to sign him for, if you want to sign him at all? I'd feel very comfortable giving him 3 years, 33 million, but I'm not sure if that would be enough to prevent the Jazz from matching. What do you guys think?
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Post#1133 » by 76ciology » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:35 am

dkj5061 wrote:Joe Ingles is a restricted free agent this offseason. Not only is he a sharpshooter we desperately need, but he his savvy with the ball in his hands, a solid team defender, and he has the Australian connection with Simmons. How much would you be willing to sign him for, if you want to sign him at all? I'd feel very comfortable giving him 3 years, 33 million, but I'm not sure if that would be enough to prevent the Jazz from matching. What do you guys think?


Yup, he's on my list of probable wing targets.

His defense is underrated, he guarded CP3 in some stretch (did well in game 3) I also like his steals numbers. He also is a reliable shooter from the outside.

For 11m/year, I think it's obvious yes for me. But at 15-17m per year? I'm 50-50 with me betting his productivity drops when given high minutes/usage.

FWIW, Jazz players are good targets to steal at FA. Their team is built on balance that I don't think they can afford to overpay guys like Exum, Ingles and Hood.

If only we need a big, Favors should be very cheap to acquire.
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Post#1134 » by XtremeDunkz » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:40 am

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dkj5061 wrote:Joe Ingles is a restricted free agent this offseason. Not only is he a sharpshooter we desperately need, but he his savvy with the ball in his hands, a solid team defender, and he has the Australian connection with Simmons. How much would you be willing to sign him for, if you want to sign him at all? I'd feel very comfortable giving him 3 years, 33 million, but I'm not sure if that would be enough to prevent the Jazz from matching. What do you guys think?


Yup, he's on my list of probable wing targets.

His defense is underrated, he guarded CP3 in some stretch (did well in game 3) I also like his steals numbers. He also is a reliable shooter from the outside.

For 11m/year, I think it's obvious yes for me. But at 15-17m per year? I'm 50-50 with me betting his productivity drops when given high minutes/usage.

FWIW, Jazz players are good targets to steal at FA. Their team is built on balance that I don't think they can afford to overpay guys like Exum, Ingles and Hood.

If only we need a big, Favors should be very cheap to acquire.


Ingles has only missed 4 games in 3 years.... I will take that any day.
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Re: Around the league 2016-2017 

Post#1135 » by kriss73 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:13 pm

Read on Twitter


Starting from season 2002-2003 of course.

Now, Lakers (2), Cavs (1), Heat (3) and Mavericks (1) won the Finals in that span.
But Knicks, Blazers and Nets spent a combined 477 mil $ for nothing.
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Post#1136 » by shawn_hemp » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:53 pm

76ciology wrote:
kingofthecourt67 wrote:Who would have thought Canaan would be more valuable to the Bulls than MCW a couple of years ago :lol:. MCW looks like he is regressing by the day.


Relative. The need for a PG who can shoot increases by the day.


Yeah let's draft De'Aaron Fox though...

MCW ruined my bracket in college, really thought that Indiana team with Oladipo was going to win it all
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Post#1137 » by JojoSlimbiid » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:29 am

I really really really wanted to trade Noel for Norman Powell...
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Post#1138 » by 76ciology » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:40 am

That barney intro by the buck really f*cked them up.
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Post#1139 » by 76ciology » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:19 am

Hawks are great in finding 3&D wings
- Carroll
- Bazemore
- Tim hardaway jr
- Taureen Prince (playing well in play-offs)
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Post#1140 » by shawn_hemp » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:08 am

76ciology wrote:Hawks are great in finding 3&D wings
- Carroll
- Bazemore
- Tim hardaway jr
- Taureen Prince (playing well in play-offs)


DeMarre Carroll fell off pretty bad when he left the Hawks though

It feels like just yesterday the Hawks had Josh Smith on their team

I lose track of their history because it's been largely the same for the longest time

Definition of the treadmill team. Feel bad for their fans

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