Hammond to ORL: Confirmed by ownership

[emunney]

I actually give Hammond more credit for the Thon pick, if only because it was a significantly higher pick and he was totally alone in the league in his evaluation of the guy. No luck there. Just big ass balls. PP has touched on this in talking about Thon as a signature move. If that guy makes an all-star game, that's flat out prescient.

With Giannis, there were teams around us who wanted him. Donnie Nelson was vetoed. Ferry could have moved up but was greedy. Still a great pick, but not way out ahead of the curve in the same way.

I mentioned the last draft as potentially being the best part of Hammond's tenure. Obvious response I received was re Giannis, but he had an amazingly good haul out of a thin (at this stage) class.

It's plausible he got two of the top 5 guys in this class. That's remarkable regardless of the strength of the class, although of course it's a bit more doable if the top shelf is ****.

Here's what we have with Hammond, though: his superstar emerges, he plucks 4 role players in one summer, his prize FA from the previous summer bounces back, and we win 43 games and go out in the first round. That's a lot that went right just to get to 43. I know: Middleton. And I know I'm preaching to the choir. But I'm worried they think this roster is where it needs to be.

[paulpressey25]

and we win 43 games and go out in the first round. That's a lot that went right just to get to 43. I know: Middleton. And I know I'm preaching to the choir. But I'm worried they think this roster is where it needs to be.

Actually 42. It is hard to tell though what the owners really think of this roster. I wouldn't necessarily conflate Alex Lasry tweeting about how great things are as equaling that Edens, Dinan or even his father are particularly satisfied. We just don't know.

I do know a bunch of casual fans and guys at WSSP are getting ready for that 2019 title parade however. They should ask Portland fans how the 2012 parade went when Kevin Pritchard led them to the title that year.

[Iheartfootball]

What I'm gleaning is that people have very strong opinions both ways. Usually means the truth is somewhere in between.

I hate this way of thinking. All it does is encourage extreme opinions and pushes the in between further in the direction of the more strongly-held extreme. Pick some criteria and evaluate according to that criteria.

How does it encourage extreme options. I'm say the exact opposite. Why does this particular topic - which is subjective - have to be black and white?

I'm not saying Hambone has been great or terrible and should be extended forever. I'm just saying what I hear is he's either the worst GM ever or one of the best. I don't think most GMs fall into either of those categories including him.

2 great (Pop & Bellicheck), 100 somewhere in between, and Matt Millen. Not sure if I'm articulating myself or not.

[AussieBuck]

I actually give Hammond more credit for the Thon pick, if only because it was a significantly higher pick and he was totally alone in the league in his evaluation of the guy. No luck there. Just big ass balls. PP has touched on this in talking about Thon as a signature move. If that guy makes an all-star game, that's flat out prescient.

With Giannis, there were teams around us who wanted him. Donnie Nelson was vetoed. Ferry could have moved up but was greedy. Still a great pick, but not way out ahead of the curve in the same way.

I'm half between ballsy and him being the only dude who didn't know that Thon was in year 12 7 years ago

[bizarro]

I actually give Hammond more credit for the Thon pick, if only because it was a significantly higher pick and he was totally alone in the league in his evaluation of the guy. No luck there. Just big ass balls. PP has touched on this in talking about Thon as a signature move. If that guy makes an all-star game, that's flat out prescient.

With Giannis, there were teams around us who wanted him. Donnie Nelson was vetoed. Ferry could have moved up but was greedy. Still a great pick, but not way out ahead of the curve in the same way.

I'm half between ballsy and him being the only dude who didn't know that Thon was in year 12 7 years ago

Cue Baddy's Hammond gif...in 3...2...1

[Istanbullus]

Hammond can leave Milwaukee a core of Giannis/Middleton/Thon/Brogdon/Parker, and with his head held high. If it would mean Zanik takes over a year early, then great.

gms need to hang around making decent moves til they get lucky. that has been hammonds tenure. his worst move in a decade is signing drew gooden to an mle deal. that's a pretty good bullet point compared to a lot of other gms in this league.

It will be a sad day for me when he moves on.

Have we done a top three and worst three Hammond moves? Can't remember. What would be on the rubric? Moves that drove the team backward; moves that weren't made that could've moved the team forward?

Agree with the Gooden signing as 1 with the a close second being the Vazquez trade and if it's true, not trading for Curry and choosing Ellis instead. Ok, that would be 1.

At this point we need a GM who can make the right FA signing and that is where Hambone is one of the worst in the league.

[Jez2983]

I actually give Hammond more credit for the Thon pick, if only because it was a significantly higher pick and he was totally alone in the league in his evaluation of the guy. No luck there. Just big ass balls. PP has touched on this in talking about Thon as a signature move. If that guy makes an all-star game, that's flat out prescient.

With Giannis, there were teams around us who wanted him. Donnie Nelson was vetoed. Ferry could have moved up but was greedy. Still a great pick, but not way out ahead of the curve in the same way.

I'm half between ballsy and him being the only dude who didn't know that Thon was in year 12 7 years ago

Cue Baddy's Hammond gif...in 3...2...1

As in many times during our Bucks fandom, oh to be a fly on the wall...

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Here's what we have with Hammond, though: his superstar emerges, he plucks 4 role players in one summer, his prize FA from the previous summer bounces back, and we win 43 games and go out in the first round. That's a lot that went right just to get to 43. I know: Middleton. And I know I'm preaching to the choir. But I'm worried they think this roster is where it needs to be.

were in great shape for the future. many 50 win seasons are imminently inbound and i wouldnt trade our spot with a single team in the east.

we need to just keep tweaking here and there and then simply....we need some more good luck. building a team isn't science. I'm always amazed the way fans view it that way.

[Fresh_Prince12]

How fitting would it be if we traded him for a 2nd

[SkilesTheLimit]

I think Hammond is a little bitter about Zanik being the "GM in waiting." He seems like a guy who would stay until he's 70 doing this if he could, so I highly doubt at his age he's considering retirement. Why would the Bucks announce Zanik as his replacement when he was hired?

When asked in the presser yesterday specifically about Zanik's role with the draft, he said something along the lines of....he's one of the guys who scouts along with Billy McKinney and Dave Babcock. Nothing more, nothing less. He did not say one positive word about him or go out of his way to even talk about his "character" like he does about the players all the time.

Found it interesting he also said he's not slowing down or looking to leave the game anytime soon.

If he felt the Bucks were nudging him out the door, I do not think he would hesitate to seek the eject button on the last year of his contract with the Bucks to take the ORL job.

[emunney]

The Bucks didn't announce Zanik as Hammond's replacement. That's just been the reporting on it.

[MickeyDavis]

Yeah the Bucks said nothing about him replacing Hammond, only that he was replacing Morway as assistant GM. Woj however reported that Zanik WAS hired to be the next GM.

[crkone]

The Bucks didn't announce Zanik as Hammond's replacement. That's just been the reporting on it.

I've been skeptical about his future role with the team too with the medical issues with his family. Heartbreaking stuff.

http://blog.geneticslab.emory.edu/an-undiagnosed-rare-disease-times-4

[emunney]

The Bucks didn't announce Zanik as Hammond's replacement. That's just been the reporting on it.

I've been skeptical about his future role with the team too with the medical issues with his family. Heartbreaking stuff.

http://blog.geneticslab.emory.edu/an-undiagnosed-rare-disease-times-4

Oh my god.

[crkone]

The Bucks didn't announce Zanik as Hammond's replacement. That's just been the reporting on it.

I've been skeptical about his future role with the team too with the medical issues with his family. Heartbreaking stuff.

http://blog.geneticslab.emory.edu/an-undiagnosed-rare-disease-times-4

Oh my god.

Sorry for ruining your or anyone else who reads that's day.

[emunney]

I knew about his daughter but not about his other two kids and wife. I can barely begin to imagine.

[Bucksfan28]

I've been skeptical about his future role with the team too with the medical issues with his family. Heartbreaking stuff.

http://blog.geneticslab.emory.edu/an-undiagnosed-rare-disease-times-4

Oh my god.

Sorry for ruining your or anyone else who reads that's day.

Jesus christ.

[buckboy]

Good God that's awful. I can't even imagine.

Edit: I guess I'm on the same wavelength as emunney. haha

[humanrefutation]

I've been skeptical about his future role with the team too with the medical issues with his family. Heartbreaking stuff.

http://blog.geneticslab.emory.edu/an-undiagnosed-rare-disease-times-4

Oh my god.

Sorry for ruining your or anyone else who reads that's day.

Awful. The number of doctors who turned them away infuriates me, as well as the insurance companies attempts to deny their claims. It's a reminder that while doctors can be brilliant and compassionate and well-reasoned, patients and their families still need to self-advocate for care and treatment.

[crkone]

I worked in the research lab of the gastroenterologist of one of the first success cases of whole genome sequencing at Children's. I think the JS did a series on that. It's scary to be patient zero of an unknown disorder. This will get figured out sooner or later. They have a lot of people scouring the data now.