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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#221 » by MHZ » Tue May 16, 2017 5:13 pm

I think OG Anunoby is the target at #13. I'm not really at all interested in the idea of taking a C prospect, even as a backup. It feels pretty worthless, to me.

I fully expect the team to try to move the pick. I think they're convinced they have enough young talent already.

Something like Wilson + 13 or Barton +13 to bring in a vet they like. We shall see.
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#222 » by skywalker33 » Tue May 16, 2017 11:42 pm

MHZ wrote:I think OG Anunoby is the target at #13. I'm not really at all interested in the idea of taking a C prospect, even as a backup. It feels pretty worthless, to me.

I fully expect the team to try to move the pick. I think they're convinced they have enough young talent already.

Something like Wilson + 13 or Barton +13 to bring in a vet they like. We shall see.


We do have 6 players under 3 years (as of last season) with Jokic, Harris, Murray and Juancho leading the way, I HOPE OG is selected at #13, we can have a complete future starting lineup with our youth.

I agree we'll be trading at least one of Chandler or Barton, just not sure what kind of return we're looking for.
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#223 » by skywalker33 » Wed May 17, 2017 1:20 am

Lakers move up to 2nd pick for 3rd year in a row....SOOOOOO F'NING RIGGED !!!!
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Post#224 » by FilNugsFan » Wed May 17, 2017 2:58 am

I've seen Anunoby's name a lot of times already in this thread, mock drafts have us drafting him at 13. Now i'm intrigued. Haha.

ACL injuries are scary. Some are never the same after sustaining such injury. Haven't seen this kid play, but if his game relies on athleticism, then that might be a cause of concern. Gotta watch his highlight clips nevertheless.
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Post#225 » by NuggetsWY » Wed May 17, 2017 3:37 am

FilNugsFan wrote:I've seen Anunoby's name a lot of times already in this thread, mock drafts have us drafting him at 13. Now i'm intrigued. Haha.

ACL injuries are scary. Some are never the same after sustaining such injury. Haven't seen this kid play, but if his game relies on athleticism, then that might be a cause of concern. Gotta watch his highlight clips nevertheless.

With all of the current youth, I think the Nuggets can afford to gamble on Anunoby (my #1 for this slot). I also think if Giles falls this far, he's worth the gamble too.
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Post#226 » by The Rebel » Wed May 17, 2017 4:02 am

MHZ wrote:I think OG Anunoby is the target at #13. I'm not really at all interested in the idea of taking a C prospect, even as a backup. It feels pretty worthless, to me.

I fully expect the team to try to move the pick. I think they're convinced they have enough young talent already.

Something like Wilson + 13 or Barton +13 to bring in a vet they like. We shall see.


I have a feeling you are right, but I also wonder if they are not going to package all 3 of them for someone. There are a few teams that need to make moves this summer. There are some that did better than expected but still need depth, and there are some that used the old cap projections to base their salaries on and are going to be in trouble making the money work next year and a year of cheaper than the new norm contracts are going to hold some big value.
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#227 » by Mac1958 » Wed May 17, 2017 10:17 am

I don't think there's anyone at 13 who is a team-altering player, unless you roll the dice on Giles and he pans out.

Yeah, move the pick and a player or two, let Gallinari and Plumlee walk, and go after an Alpha Dog and a defensive presence at PF.

I'm liking the idea of a Murray/Harris backcourt more every day, and they and Jokic all have some serious ceiling left in them.
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Post#228 » by skywalker33 » Wed May 17, 2017 2:43 pm

Mac1958 wrote:I don't think there's anyone at 13 who is a team-altering player, unless you roll the dice on Giles and he pans out.

Yeah, move the pick and a player or two, let Gallinari and Plumlee walk, and go after an Alpha Dog and a defensive presence at PF.

I'm liking the idea of a Murray/Harris backcourt more every day, and they and Jokic all have some serious ceiling left in them.


Since when has the Nuggets EVER been able to lure an Alpha Dog ??? We've gotten to where we are at by building thru the draft. This is a very deep draft so even drafting at 13 we can get a very good player, look what we got at 15 & 19 last year.
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#229 » by Mac1958 » Wed May 17, 2017 5:05 pm

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Mac1958 wrote:I don't think there's anyone at 13 who is a team-altering player, unless you roll the dice on Giles and he pans out.

Yeah, move the pick and a player or two, let Gallinari and Plumlee walk, and go after an Alpha Dog and a defensive presence at PF.

I'm liking the idea of a Murray/Harris backcourt more every day, and they and Jokic all have some serious ceiling left in them.


Since when has the Nuggets EVER been able to lure an Alpha Dog ??? We've gotten to where we are at by building thru the draft. This is a very deep draft so even drafting at 13 we can get a very good player, look what we got at 15 & 19 last year.

Seems to me it depends on where management thinks we are. If they think we're still a good two to four years away from being something special, then yeah, I can see them doing it your way.

If, on the other hand, they think the team could make some noise in the next year or two with the right additions, they may not want to wait for yet another draft pick to develop.
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Post#230 » by Mickey8 » Wed May 17, 2017 5:19 pm

There are good players in the second round as well , I personally think Lonzo Ball will be bust and he will be chosen second overall and there will be more busts in the top 15 this year , all you need is a good scouting and not just going for the most hyped youtuber.
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Post#231 » by MHZ » Wed May 17, 2017 5:33 pm

The priority should be getting the right players. I don't subscribe to the "we don't need another rookie!" if you really like Jonathan Isaac, for instance. You go take 13 and package some of your vets including Chandler/Barton/Beasley to go get your guy.

If there's a trade out there for a perimeter defender who truly helps right away, by all means, but don't trade it because you've already decided you need to trade it. I'm worried the team is doing the latter.
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Post#232 » by skywalker33 » Wed May 17, 2017 5:40 pm

MHZ wrote:The priority should be getting the right players. I don't subscribe to the "we don't need another rookie!" if you really like Jonathan Isaac, for instance. You go take 13 and package some of your vets including Chandler/Barton/Beasley to go get your guy.

If there's a trade out there for a perimeter defender who truly helps right away, by all means, but don't trade it because you've already decided you need to trade it. I'm worried the team is doing the latter.


I agree with your assessment but with the Nuggets FO there is a huge cavern between idea and execution. I know it was one trade, but the Nurkic trade really showed me how the inefficient TC is with trades when pressed and I don't want that to happen again, it was pathetic losing deals like that.
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Post#233 » by U hova » Wed May 17, 2017 6:59 pm

hey now nurkic was 16th and garris 19... there's always value
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#234 » by skywalker33 » Wed May 17, 2017 7:44 pm

U hova wrote:hey now nurkic was 16th and garris 19... there's always value


I was referring to the Nurkic to POR deal, giving up the superior player AND a 1st leaves a lot of questions in TC's judgement.
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Post#235 » by The Rebel » Thu May 18, 2017 4:21 pm

Read on Twitter


Looks like the Nuggets are looking to move up.
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Post#236 » by skywalker33 » Thu May 18, 2017 6:53 pm

The Rebel wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like the Nuggets are looking to move up.


And I'm looking to date Charlotte McKinney (even though my wife won't let me), it's all PR until it happens. Seems it's what they want the fan-base to believe, that they're being pro-active in building this team. For the most part I've always believed they have been trying but now I believe it's just a bottom line approach with a lot of rhetoric involved.

Here my list of draftees I would like to see the Nuggets draft

13th pick
1. SF Jonathon Isaac (if they move up) - star in the making, Gallo who ?
2. PF/C Zach Collins - still a couple of years away but HUGE PF potential IMO
3. SF/PF OG Anunoby - Defense, defense and more defense but I think his offense will catch up with some easy dimes from the Joker
4. PF/C Harry Giles - Could be the steal of the draft if he recover fully, not as big of a risk at 13 IMO
5. PF John Collins - Still needs to learn what defense is, but can become a rim-protector with a big offensive game
6.PG is one falls (highly unlikely, if it happens I see us trading down)
7. DARKHORSE SG Hamidou Diallo - Kid reminds me of Kobe, who went 13th if I;m not mistaken.


Picks 49 & 51
1. PF Kyke Kuzma - Good all-around game
2 SG Sindarius Thornwell - We don't really need another guard but he tough, adds leadership and plays nasty defense
3. C Anzels Pasecnik - backup to Jokic
3 SG/SF Jaron Blossomgame - Eventual replacement for Chandler/Barton
4 PF Cam Oliver - Good player SoCal convinced me !!
5 PG Frank Mason - change of pace PF, great speed who can score.....IT clone for the 2nd unit
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Post#237 » by The Rebel » Thu May 18, 2017 8:59 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like the Nuggets are looking to move up.


And I'm looking to date Charlotte McKinney (even though my wife won't let me), it's all PR until it happens. Seems it's what they want the fan-base to believe, that they're being pro-active in building this team. For the most part I've always believed they have been trying but now I believe it's just a bottom line approach with a lot of rhetoric involved.

Here my list of draftees I would like to see the Nuggets draft

13th pick
1. SF Jonathon Isaac (if they move up) - star in the making, Gallo who ?
2. PF/C Zach Collins - still a couple of years away but HUGE PF potential IMO
3. SF/PF OG Anunoby - Defense, defense and more defense but I think his offense will catch up with some easy dimes from the Joker
4. PF/C Harry Giles - Could be the steal of the draft if he recover fully, not as big of a risk at 13 IMO
5. PF John Collins - Still needs to learn what defense is, but can become a rim-protector with a big offensive game
6.PG is one falls (highly unlikely, if it happens I see us trading down)
7. DARKHORSE SG Hamidou Diallo - Kid reminds me of Kobe, who went 13th if I;m not mistaken.


Picks 49 & 51
1. PF Kyke Kuzma - Good all-around game
2 SG Sindarius Thornwell - We don't really need another guard but he tough, adds leadership and plays nasty defense
3. C Anzels Pasecnik - backup to Jokic
3 SG/SF Jaron Blossomgame - Eventual replacement for Chandler/Barton
4 PF Cam Oliver - Good player SoCal convinced me !!
5 PG Frank Mason - change of pace PF, great speed who can score.....IT clone for the 2nd unit


I view the tweet in a different way, what it says to me is that the Nuggets view it that the guy they really want is likely to be gone before the 10th pick, and so they are pushing a rumor out through a known local blogger that they would like to move up, to see who calls with offers and if they can get a better deal. For all the hype of this draft there are certainly teams that seem to be wanting a playoff push next year and would rather get a good proven player and pick later than a project type player.

The Magic, Twolves, Mavericks, Knicks, and possibly the Kings as well may have reason to move down for the right deal, which will give us the least costly tradeup is the question? If you can get them calling you the price can go down pretty quickly, especially when it might be 3 or 4 teams that are wanting to move down.
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#238 » by Mickey8 » Thu May 18, 2017 9:40 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like the Nuggets are looking to move up.


And I'm looking to date Charlotte McKinney (even though my wife won't let me), it's all PR until it happens. Seems it's what they want the fan-base to believe, that they're being pro-active in building this team. For the most part I've always believed they have been trying but now I believe it's just a bottom line approach with a lot of rhetoric involved.

Here my list of draftees I would like to see the Nuggets draft

13th pick
1. SF Jonathon Isaac (if they move up) - star in the making, Gallo who ?
2. PF/C Zach Collins - still a couple of years away but HUGE PF potential IMO
3. SF/PF OG Anunoby - Defense, defense and more defense but I think his offense will catch up with some easy dimes from the Joker
4. PF/C Harry Giles - Could be the steal of the draft if he recover fully, not as big of a risk at 13 IMO
5. PF John Collins - Still needs to learn what defense is, but can become a rim-protector with a big offensive game
6.PG is one falls (highly unlikely, if it happens I see us trading down)
7. DARKHORSE SG Hamidou Diallo - Kid reminds me of Kobe, who went 13th if I;m not mistaken.


Picks 49 & 51
1. PF Kyke Kuzma - Good all-around game
2 SG Sindarius Thornwell - We don't really need another guard but he tough, adds leadership and plays nasty defense
3. C Anzels Pasecnik - backup to Jokic
3 SG/SF Jaron Blossomgame - Eventual replacement for Chandler/Barton
4 PF Cam Oliver - Good player SoCal convinced me !!
5 PG Frank Mason - change of pace PF, great speed who can score.....IT clone for the 2nd unit

That guy is horrible and I see Draftexpress is hyping him so hard, I wonder if he paying them for advertising :) , holly molly they have him as the first rounder , waste of a pick who ever takes him that high.
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#239 » by skywalker33 » Thu May 18, 2017 10:16 pm

Mickey8 wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like the Nuggets are looking to move up.


And I'm looking to date Charlotte McKinney (even though my wife won't let me), it's all PR until it happens. Seems it's what they want the fan-base to believe, that they're being pro-active in building this team. For the most part I've always believed they have been trying but now I believe it's just a bottom line approach with a lot of rhetoric involved.

Here my list of draftees I would like to see the Nuggets draft

13th pick
1. SF Jonathon Isaac (if they move up) - star in the making, Gallo who ?
2. PF/C Zach Collins - still a couple of years away but HUGE PF potential IMO
3. SF/PF OG Anunoby - Defense, defense and more defense but I think his offense will catch up with some easy dimes from the Joker
4. PF/C Harry Giles - Could be the steal of the draft if he recover fully, not as big of a risk at 13 IMO
5. PF John Collins - Still needs to learn what defense is, but can become a rim-protector with a big offensive game
6.PG is one falls (highly unlikely, if it happens I see us trading down)
7. DARKHORSE SG Hamidou Diallo - Kid reminds me of Kobe, who went 13th if I;m not mistaken.


Picks 49 & 51
1. PF Kyke Kuzma - Good all-around game
2 SG Sindarius Thornwell - We don't really need another guard but he tough, adds leadership and plays nasty defense
3. C Anzels Pasecnik - backup to Jokic
3 SG/SF Jaron Blossomgame - Eventual replacement for Chandler/Barton
4 PF Cam Oliver - Good player SoCal convinced me !!
5 PG Frank Mason - change of pace PF, great speed who can score.....IT clone for the 2nd unit

That guy is horrible and I see Draftexpress is hyping him so hard, I wonder if he paying them for advertising :) , holly molly they have him as the first rounder , waste of a pick who ever takes him that high.


Yeah, that's why I had him at 49/51 area, he could be a good back at that point in the draft
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#240 » by Mickey8 » Thu May 18, 2017 10:24 pm

I think Porzingis success in the NBA probably impacted his position on various mock drafts , even though they are two completely different players :) Yeah I agree , you can roll the dice on him late in the second round.

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