It is to strengthen the entire posterior chain
Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8
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It is to strengthen the entire posterior chain
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The courtship rituals of the draft process are a little funny.
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Hemispheres wrote:NYKnicksTAPE wrote:“My arms are very long. Defensively I have the mind and the will to dominate the player on offense,” said Ntilikina, who picked up fluent English by watching TV and listening to music. “And on defense, my arms help me a lot to deny, to make them struggle, so it’s very important for me. I have a body to help me make the offensive player struggle. I also have the will to do it. So it’s like a challenge to me to do it, so defensively I think I just have to develop my body, to go in the weight room and be ready to go against the most physical players. But I think with my skills, I can do it easily.”
“I’m ready to go on the court and compete,” he added. “In Europe, it’s very different …But I will trust the process, go to the gym and work on my game. And I’m sure, with the will I have and the work ethic I have, I will go and in a short time I will be better. And better and better.”
Knicks have been an above average defensive team only once since 2001...they've been out of the bottom 10 only 5 times
KP and Frank is a good defensive base to have when trying to build a team that can possibly contend in the future
That's why i've been on the Frank train. KP shutting down the interior, Frank causing havoc on the perimeter. Both unselfish with high bball IQs. Will be a huge breath of fresh air.
build a team with high IQ ball players that are unselfish, versatile, and can play both ways and the wins will eventually come
Frank could potentially guard 1-3, and his offense can be developed...he can be the type of player that is extremely valuable in the NBA

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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Hemispheres wrote:NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
Knicks have been an above average defensive team only once since 2001...they've been out of the bottom 10 only 5 times
KP and Frank is a good defensive base to have when trying to build a team that can possibly contend in the future
That's why i've been on the Frank train. KP shutting down the interior, Frank causing havoc on the perimeter. Both unselfish with high bball IQs. Will be a huge breath of fresh air.
build a team with high IQ ball players that are unselfish, versatile, and can play both ways and the wins will eventually come
Frank could potentially guard 1-3, and his offense can be developed...he can be the type of player that is extremely valuable in the NBA
If we got Frank and managed to swing a deal for Rubio, Frank could play off the ball and cut his teeth as a secondary ballhandler. It would take a lot of pressure off of him, as he could mainly concentrate on spot ups (where he was deadly this year), and just making smart reads in the system.
We have a chance to develop him the right way, and I think his natural talents/inclinations are in line with the right way to play.
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Im in for Frank.
The potential is far too intriguing. 6'5 18 year old with 7'1 wingspan showing the poise, tenacity and work ethic to succeed is great.
Problem is the PG position is tough in the NBA. Dante Exum had the same profile going into the draft and hes yet to prove anything.
Its really a high risk high reward play - which in this NBA you have to take those chances.
I'm curious to see what other moves management pulls off. I dont see how the same team comes back next year and other than their interest in trading Melo, I have no idea who else is on the block and who they might be targeting
The potential is far too intriguing. 6'5 18 year old with 7'1 wingspan showing the poise, tenacity and work ethic to succeed is great.
Problem is the PG position is tough in the NBA. Dante Exum had the same profile going into the draft and hes yet to prove anything.
Its really a high risk high reward play - which in this NBA you have to take those chances.
I'm curious to see what other moves management pulls off. I dont see how the same team comes back next year and other than their interest in trading Melo, I have no idea who else is on the block and who they might be targeting
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If Cuban wants to trade 9 for 8 after we picked Nik who would you want from the Mavs to make it work say they get Monk or DSJ?
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malik959 wrote:If Cuban wants to trade 9 for 8 after we picked Nik who would you want from the Mavs to make it work say they get Monk or DSJ?
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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:"And on defense, my arms help me a lot to deny, to make them struggle, so it’s very important for me. I have a body to help me make the offensive player struggle."

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Finally, people are joining in the Frank to the Knicks bandwagon, I was trying to get yall on this bandwagon for the last five months, he is the right pick at the #8 spot, he is gonna be a steal.
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We also face the Kings twice in the near future. I think it's time Yabu pays back some of that free money he's been given his entire career and bounces Fox for a nice 2 week ankle sprain.
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BowlRips wrote:Im in for Frank.
The potential is far too intriguing. 6'5 18 year old with 7'1 wingspan showing the poise, tenacity and work ethic to succeed is great.
Problem is the PG position is tough in the NBA. Dante Exum had the same profile going into the draft and hes yet to prove anything.
Its really a high risk high reward play - which in this NBA you have to take those chances.
I'm curious to see what other moves management pulls off. I dont see how the same team comes back next year and other than their interest in trading Melo, I have no idea who else is on the block and who they might be targeting
what I like about Frank is that if he's not a good enough penetrator or creator to be a PG, then he can easily just slide over to the 2 and be more of a secondary ball handler and creator
he has the size to play either guard spot

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Lazy10 wrote:You guys hate on Phil but another GM would of taken Winslow at 4 and future bust Fox would be taken at 8 if it were diff gm.
Lol, no.
That made sense to you?
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Btw, its interesting how Mavs, indeed, are just flat out showing everyone how they loooove Frank..
One of their reporters just said they have him higher than Monk and DSJ.
Are they trying to fool the Knicks into taking him?
One of their reporters just said they have him higher than Monk and DSJ.
Are they trying to fool the Knicks into taking him?
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ChaosHamster wrote:Btw, its interesting how Mavs, indeed, are just flat out showing everyone how they loooove Frank..
One of their reporters just said they have him higher than Monk and DSJ.
Are they trying to fool the Knicks into taking him?
I don't see how they could. The Knicks are in front of them in line, they can choose whoever they want that's left over. I'm not sure how knowing what someone wants behind you affects what you want at all.
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Bolden is jumping....
WTF?
Why don't they want me to be happy?
WTF?
Why don't they want me to be happy?
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nice read on frank... berman isn't my favorite, but you can at least tell he's trying to write something interesting these days
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Greenie wrote:Bolden is jumping....
WTF?
Why don't they want me to be happy?
they want to torture usno smith, no Tatum, no bolden
Smh

It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
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“Our owner, at the time when I left [Cleveland in 2010], decided to put out an article that we all know about, where he completely … disrespected not only me as an individual, but disrespected my name,” James said in the video. “When I decided to go back … my mom and wife were like, ‘I ain’t with that.’”
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bleedblue3303 wrote:the more i think about it. The less of a debate. Phil is going to take Frank.
1. he likes tall guards.
2. He said in his press conference the most pressing issue is perimeter def. Frank is potentially the best perimeter defender in this draft.
Like it or not the Knicks are drafting Frank. Don't hate it and Don't love it.
This, but oh boy do I love it.














